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A former casino executive gets sentenced for college admissions scandal
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Sentenced to one year for college admissions scandal

Wow, just because he wanted his daughter to get into a specific college, he paid over a quarter million (300K)!  
With that money, she could have got a "public state college" education and worked her way up to a Masters at a "better" school.
I'm not sure why they had to do all that just to get into a well known school, what if they go in a different route, by donating/funding a scholarship?

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A whole bunch of people including celebrities went down with this admissions scandal. Don't feel sorry for any of them. They can afford tutors. They can afford large donations to colleges towards buildings and other things which pretty much guarantees their kids admissions. I highly doubt all of this was worth it. I really wonder how these kids did in their colleges their parents bribed their way into.
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It's America. Everything is for sale.
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This is just the latest chapter of the same mess that tripped up Lori Loughlin and Felicity Huffman.  I think they've already served their time and are out of jail again.  I had stopped following this story and didn't realize that it has continued to spread.
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(02-12-2022, 11:30 PM)Alpha Wrote: This is just the latest chapter of the same mess that tripped up Lori Loughlin and Felicity Huffman.  I think they've already served their time and are out of jail again.  I had stopped following this story and didn't realize that it has continued to spread.


Bud, I think we’ve just hit the tip of the iceberg with all the corruption in higher education. I’m sure this is the gift that will keep giving for many years to come.
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I do not get parent who care more about their kids' college situation than the kids themselves. My favorite line to use with my kids: "I can't care more about your life than you do."

I can't care more about if they go to college, I can't care more about their grades, I can't care more about their jobs, I can't care more about who they choose to date, I can't care more about their futures.
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(02-13-2022, 12:20 PM)dfrecore Wrote: I do not get parent who care more about their kids' college situation than the kids themselves.  My favorite line to use with my kids: "I can't care more about your life than you do."

I can't care more about if they go to college, I can't care more about their grades, I can't care more about their jobs, I can't care more about who they choose to date, I can't care more about their futures.

I can.

I think expecting minors and "young adults" to have unskewed, rational priorities is unrealistic. So when they are asked to make decisions with lifelong consequences (college, loans), it is reasonable to try to steer them right to avoid catastrophes a parent can see and children ca'nt, due to lack of life experience, hormones, whatever. Of course, I'd draw a line way before committing felonies.
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(02-13-2022, 08:40 PM)Stanislav Wrote:
(02-13-2022, 12:20 PM)dfrecore Wrote: I do not get parent who care more about their kids' college situation than the kids themselves.  My favorite line to use with my kids: "I can't care more about your life than you do."

I can't care more about if they go to college, I can't care more about their grades, I can't care more about their jobs, I can't care more about who they choose to date, I can't care more about their futures.

I can.

I think expecting minors and "young adults" to have unskewed, rational priorities is unrealistic. So when they are asked to make decisions with lifelong consequences (college, loans), it is reasonable to try to steer them right to avoid catastrophes a parent can see and children ca'nt, due to lack of life experience, hormones, whatever. Of course, I'd draw a line way before committing felonies.


That’s a good point.

I think it also has to do with the parents saving face. Once they get to a certain level of celebrity or corporate significance, there is a perception that if their children a failures then it reflects badly on them. Given their access to their parents wealth and status, the kids getting into anything less than the best would be seen as a failure.

Take Shakespeare as an example. His daughter couldn’t read, so people take that as proof that he didn’t write his plays. If he was such a great writer then why was his daughter illiterate? All of that conspiracy theory nonsense completely disregards what we know in modern times about learning disorders. It’s kind of sick really.

Our kids do reflect on us whether or not they should. These parents are taking fears of that to the extreme.

I also think they figure people will assume they had a hand in their kids’ success, so they try to influence the situation covertly rather than donating large amounts to the school. Maybe they’re trying to avoid the eye rolls at graduation.
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I believe thinking teenagers are going to be logical and rational is either naive or foolish. We as parents are supposed to be their compass and if it looks like they’ve gotten off path it’s our jobs to try and steer them back on course. It’s not our job however to lie, cheat, steal, or break the law for them. But yea I can care more about their lives and futures than they do. I’ve made mine quit jobs, or quit hanging with certain people because it was for their best interest, even though they may not have thought so. They’ve had to cancel many plans because I felt like school was more important than they did.
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My kids are still young, daughter is turning 10 in April, she's in 4th grade, my son is in 3rd grade, he's 8 and a half... they're about 19 months apart in age, their personalities are so different and are into other hobbies.  Anyways, I've asked them what they want to be when they grow up... daughter wants to be either a paramedic or nurse, son doesn't know yet but is leaning towards being a gamer or teacher.

We discuss things at home, as in asking how they're doing in French Immersion and how it's going with their friends/teacher relationships.  Further to that, we set them time for sports, summer school and summer camps, taking courses that may interest them.  I went with French Immersion as it is "my version" of a "private school" in a public school setting.  I find teachers put a bit more effort in teaching...

I don't really take control of my kids life and how they study, but I do have "regulations/rules".  Finish homework before they can use the computer, they can do whatever they want, I don't even have a filter or anything setup for the Laptops, I let them do what they want on the phones/ipads as well, such as WhatsApp/WeChat with their friends and make funny pictures or videos, etc.

I think it's a good idea to work with the kids towards their goals, but also at the same time, give them the freedom to make their own choices.  We like to keep conversing at home to make sure the communication is there, we don't force our kids and say, you must be a ABC when you grow up or you must take XYZ at summer school.  We encourage them to do what they want, like drawing, music, sports, etc...

When the time comes for high school or even college, I hope to get them at least up to par with their classmates, my daughter is doing alright, my son's been the problem!  He gets in trouble at school often, he doesn't like following the rules and we've had a pediatrician referred, he's borderline ADHD like me.  Homeschooling so far is a no go, he's doing OK with the tutoring agencies though...

In conclusion, I will never tell them they have to go to the top research public university in the state.  I will just tell them to get an education they want and to their interests as long as they are learning and not just going to school to "slack off" or as a way to defer their entry into the workforce.
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