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ENEB is a separate 50 question exam per course, except for the MBA which gets lumped in with one of your other subjects at random. I enrolled in the MBA and 2 Master's, and I had 2 separate final exams. Most people on these forums are only enrolled in the MBA + one Master's at a maximum, so they end up with only 1 final exam, which looks misleading. I assume if you sign up for their special set combo "Global Master's", which combines 3 certain courses into 1 degree worth 90 ETS instead of 72, you would have 1 final exam. So if you signed up for 10 Master's at ENEB, you would have 7-10 final exams.

Also the reason for getting an unfavorable result by FCEs is probably unrelated to the exam. I personally know someone in the USA who got a Business Administration degree at an accredited, local college in the US, and they tested out of 10 classes - if test outs made a degree invalid, this method would not be possible. Also, at least some major FCEs do not research anything about the courses or syllabus, nor how classes are conducted, meaning they wouldn't even know ENEB has an exam method (I have gotten normal degrees, not titulo propio, from normal accredited European universities, evaluated in a ludicrous way by WES USA, and my school claims they were never contacted by WES for clarification on anything).

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say in that first paragraph, but it's well-understood that the exams are 50 questions for one Master's degree (e.g. 50 questions per degree program, I've seen the ENEB emails) and that's laughable and unacceptable. "Per course" would mean 50 questions per MBA course, so in that context it would equal 650 questions based on 13 courses, and that still wouldn't be acceptable. 100 questions per MBA course (1,300 questions), then they'd be onto something. But they were too lazy and greedy to do that. This is just a money grab by them, and I don't consider anyone who does the 50 question test to have a Master's degree. That's not a Master's degree. A Master's degree, heck an Associate degree, requires rigor. There is no rigor with a 50 question exam and that's just the bottom line truth. It's a total mockery and a disrespect to the necessary work it takes to earn a college degree, and to all of the students who have done that necessary work to earn theirs.

"So if you signed up for 10 Master's at ENEB, you would have 7-10 final exams."

Not even a definite 10? LOL!

Anyway, you don't see the problem with that? Getting a bunch of milled degrees by taking single 50 question exams multiple times doesn't change anything. It's simply the same problem multiplied.

"Also the reason for getting an unfavorable result by FCEs is probably unrelated to the exam."

ENEB has had favorable results from FCE's for years, so that's not the issue. The issue is that the 50 question exam is going to close the door on favorable results if that hasn't already happened. The FCEs are rightfully going to look for rigor, and a 50 question exam does not provide that. With ENEB foolishly handing out transcripts that don't differentiate between earning the degree properly by writing papers and improperly with a 50 question exam, the FCEs are not going to play the game of trying to figure out which earner is real and which one is a fraud, they will simply blacklist the entire school and move on, and the FCEs will be doing the right thing when they do it.

"I personally know someone in the USA who got a Business Administration degree at an accredited, local college in the US, and they tested out of 10 classes - if test outs made a degree invalid, this method would not be possible."

Incongruent comparison. You can test out of 10 undergrad courses (I did it myself once), but you can't test out of an entire degree with a single 50 question exam. If any school in the United States tried that, their accreditor would swoop in and shut that down immediately and demand it stopped for the diploma mill operation that it is. And if they didn't stop, they would be stripped of their accreditation. I'm sure the same would happen in most other countries, and I know this would happen in Spain as well, I'm just almost certain Spain's government doesn't know what's happening here yet, but that's only a matter of time.

When they find out, the hammer will be dropped and I wouldn't be surprised if they do as they have before and show up with Government Police, guns drawn, and drag school officials out of the building and nail the doors shut, because that's how they've been known to handle schools there when they step out of line.

"Also, at least some major FCEs do not research anything about the courses or syllabus, nor how classes are conducted, meaning they wouldn't even know ENEB has an exam method..."

They research a lot more than you think. They know a lot more than you think they do. What happens at times is what happens with any other business: one person knows what's happening, another one doesn't and things get slipped past them. But that doesn't last long. Eventually, the information becomes known to all and the school gets blacklisted. Schools get blacklisted by FCEs all the time.

 (I have gotten normal degrees, not titulo propio, from normal accredited European universities, evaluated in a ludicrous way by WES USA, and my school claims they were never contacted by WES for clarification on anything).

WES sucks. Everyone knows that. They're not the best example to use. However, contact isn't necessary when the FCE has already evaluated degrees from a school and has a predetermined stance on that school. WES has probably evaluated degrees from every school there is at this point. Whether we agree with their decisions or not, they more than likely have a predetermined position on any school we can think of.