(11-19-2020, 02:45 PM)StoicJ Wrote: Anyway, I am certainly not convinced. What would convince me? Anecdotes certainly won't. Numbers might. How many people in the U.S. died in each month of this year? How does that compare to previous years? What if you break the numbers down by month for the last several years, by primary cause of death- auto, medical error, cancer, heart disease, flu, etc? Suicide, drug overdose, murder?
Anyone have a link to a chart that breaks down deaths by cause, for each month of the year, for the last few years?
If you go to the CDC website to look for this info, I can tell you that THIS year, they are not tracking Flu deaths. Flu is normally a large number of people, but all of a suddent, they're not tracking it? Why not? (I have a guess).
(11-19-2020, 02:38 PM)Seagull Wrote: Agree, and the shutdown is also perceived differently from each person, screenings haven't stopped, one can easily schedule and have it done. I have gone to dentist and not stopped all my physicals just because of shutdowns. Most people are just afraid while those who have to go to work lead a normal life, so I don't understand how shutdowns are affecting people differently, but in the end it is always the poorest that suffer the most. Public schools close while private schools are allowed in person full time. So yes there is a difference between rich and poor and location. In big cities where most of the poor are located there are more restrictions. California governor restricts all while he sends his kids to private school and dines at restaurant. It is like the hunger games, the elite are always free and rules do not apply to them.
Screenings stopped in MANY places for a very long time. I wasn't able to see my doctor for months and months. I wasn't able to go to the dentist except for emergencies for many months.
The poor definitely will suffer the most. Here in the US, it will be the lack of education for kids. Many non-poor people have ways around the school shutdowns - either they switched to private schools, homeschooled, made "pods" with other families, or just had the time to sit with their kids for zoom crap because they could work from home. Many poorer people don't have the education to help their kids themselves, or have to work outside of the home, and can't help their kids. Distance-learning with Covid has been a disaster from day 1, and will continue to be that for YEARS to come. I know my own kid regressed in math quite a bit, and he's a junior in HS - I can't imagine having a little kid just learning to read or add. Or who can't do their schoolwork on their own at all.
And the entire reason schools didn't come back fully in-person this fall was teachers unions. 100%. Because private schools are doing just fine, kids are going to school daily, and schools are not "super-spreader" events. States where kids came back in-person are doing fine. Again, not spreading covid like crazy. The unions are the ones ruining kids lives.
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