(11-16-2020, 03:59 PM)dfrecore Wrote: The fact that they've NEVER been able to create a CoronaVirus vaccine before - and this rush to get a new one. No thanks. We will let other people be the guinea pigs.
My thoughts as well. I'm cautiously optimistic, but if I wanted to be part of an extended clinical trial, I would have signed up for one. My family is waiting to see how this shakes out for others first.
(11-16-2020, 03:59 PM)dfrecore Wrote: The fact that they may not last more than a year, means the hope of people going to get one EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR. going forward? Yeah, not going to happen. First, maybe 50% will get it, but within a couple of years, I guess less than 25% of people will be getting them annually.
It may be more often than once a year to begin with, but yeah I agree here as well. That said, if enough people gain immunity at the same time and for a long enough time, whether that is from a vaccine or natural immunity from contagion, herd immunity may purge it completely. Or at least limit it to smaller pockets of infection where a more focused vaccination regimen can deal with it.
(11-16-2020, 03:59 PM)dfrecore Wrote: We are going to continue living our lives exactly as we've been. We'll do the holidays exactly as we've always done them. At this point, I think this whole thing is a scam, and I am not listening to "the experts" at this point at all. (and yes, of course the virus exists, but with >99% of people either not getting it, or recovering from it, I'm not worried). Even my parents who are in their 70's said they won't get the vaccine, and won't change how they're living.
The thing that worries me is that while a lot of people recover from Covid, many of those people end up with lasting damage (side effects) that impairs their circulatory, respiratory, or pulmonary functions even after the virus has been eliminated. Personally, I have enough trouble in my life... I'd rather avoid any long-term side effects, new medical issues, or run the risk of my child facing such issues.
My family plans to continue to limit outside contact and mask up where we don't have that option. At least until we know more about the durability, safety, and long-term efficacy of these vaccines. Until then it's going to be impossible to weigh the risks.
I can't fathom how people think this is a scam though. I mean, it's not like this is a made-up disease. So many people have already died and hospitals are filled beyond capacity. The evidence is clear that it is a serious threat even if you don't follow the news media. It's only getting worse as new cases are increasing so rapidly. Healthcare workers were already overwhelmed in some areas, and it's just getting worse. Some of those people are quitting their jobs because they can't handle the stress and long hours, which is making the others have to pick up more work. This is unsupportable unless something changes soon.
(11-16-2020, 04:47 PM)dfrecore Wrote: Only 60% of doctors and 40% of nurses said they would get these vaccines. If THEY won't get them, why would I??
Well, a lot of people won't get them during the first rounds since nobody is sure how safe they are. Medical personnel know the risks better than most of us. Regardless of how quickly we can push a drug through trials, that doesn't allow enough testing across a broad population to prove that the vaccine does its job and isn't going to cause its own problems. We need multi-year trials to begin to make those kinds of claims.
I'm not sure where your statistic comes from, but I can only imagine that not wanting to be in the first round of vaccinations is likely the basis for it. I doubt that many people in the medical community would go on record as stating that they will never consider taking any of these vaccines even if they are proven safe.
I have friends and family who are nurses and/or work in healthcare and they are all very optimistic about these vaccines. I don't know how long they intend to wait before taking the vaccine themselves though. I will need to inquire since now I'm curious. Personally, if I worked on the front lines and had a high likelihood of contracting Covid, I'd probably be more likely to consider taking a vaccine anyway to minimize the risks to myself and my family.
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