(05-07-2020, 10:50 AM)bluebooger Wrote: > Yes, find me 5 successful politicians who got their bachelors online though?No, in this case they dropped out because they all got into tech and had to focus on their work. They also got into tech at breakthrough points.
I can do better than that
I can show you 5 students who dropped out of in-person classes at Harvard University, University of Chicago, University of Texas, Reed College and yet became billionaires
Mark Zuckerberg
Bill Gates
Lawrence Ellison
Michael Dell
Steve Jobs
see ? in-person classes and connections and the ability to exchange ideas with professors and other students in person is highly overrated
moral of story: if our goal is to get rich and be successful we should all drop out
Bill Gates for example was already a bright mind who was hand picked to attend that selective college he dropped out from. Bill Gates wasn't out there trying to get Straighterline credits to eventually drop out of University of Phoenix and then go into a coding bootcamp, he was and still is a genius and his mind works at a very high level.
All of these people were. They would've been successful with or without college. We can't say the same for 99% of the population that lacks structure and the proper habits.
(05-07-2020, 01:57 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote: Stoic is confusing success vs education.I'm not confusing anything. Maybe you are?
I spend $5,000-$10,000 per week doing Executive Education because I can. My peers in these EE programs are very successful. Some with no college at all. I have only met one who was an Ivy grad. They come from all walks of life.
I'm not sure what's confusing you about the fact that there's a difference in attending a top program IN PERSON at a young age and getting a BS degree where you post BS on Blackboard to get grades from someone who you have never met and have no connection to via an online program?
There's a huge difference in bigger tutored in person by someone like Ken Gemes and dealing with a professor from TESC in philosophy which you don't even know how she looks like. Nevermind taking a Straighterline course in Philosophy or whatever.
But whatever, keep thinking that is not any different.
Also, wildly successful people don't take executive certificates or whatever that it is. That's for workers, as a matter fact super rich people don't even have LinkedIN or care for it. Do you think a wildly successful rich entrepreneur from Italy is right now on his or her LinkedIn page fixing their certificate structure? No, they are having fun and living life.
I took out all of my certificates from my social media profiles, they are worthless. Including the very expensive ones I took in the past. I'm not trying to create issues here. I'm just stating that in my opinion these young people who are attending top schools and have goals, have a reason to rebel if that's what they want to do, because there's a difference between online and brick and mortar as much as everyone here argues back at me about it.