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Nations University call
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(01-18-2018, 10:30 AM)jsh1138 Wrote: "Not if it is theologically sound."

if it were theologically sound, it wouldn't be saying the opposite of what the Bible says on the topic, surely?

"What I said would be accepted by new-age Christianity"

The Moonies teach that Jesus was sent to the world to save all of humanity, and failed. They accept that but you could hardly say its theologically sound from a Christian point of view

I get that you think you're right and they should show your more respect but that really is a separate issue from them granting you a degree for saying the exact opposite of what they're teaching

The argument is based on the Bible and is presented with Biblical evidence. I didn't assert anything that wasn't Biblically sound, nor did I contradict what the Bible puts forth.

I got the idea one night when asking some questions and getting contradictory answers. The core of my argument came from those questions, which I then researched and confirmed over the next three months. The "epiphany" I had was this:
If God is omniscient, then He possesses maximal and certain knowledge of everything. This means that God is incapable of not knowing something with certainty. If God is omnipotent, then He can do anything at any time as he so chooses, with no limitations or restraints.

If God is omniscient, therefore, He must know His exact and precise course of action by which all things will progress for all of eternity and is incapable of deviating from this precise course of action even in and of himself. This means that God has no freewill. In other words, God knew all the horrible things that would happen to mankind, all the people who would die and burn in Hell for eternity, and all the problems humans would have, yet was incapable of changing that course of action. If God is incapable of something, he is, quite simply, not omnipotent, as he lacks the ability to do anything at any time that he so chooses.

If God is omnipotent, then He cannot know what will happen in all cases with absolute certainty, because He has the authority to deviate from what he knows will happen to change the course, and course-correction would be impossible for a being that knew everything he would do with certainty.

To prove that God does not have unlimited power or unlimited knowledge only requires a single verse for each. A bold assertion that someone possesses "all" of the cherries on Earth can be disproven by showing a single person with a single cherry that does not belong to the man with "all" the cherries.
1. Hebrews 6:18 asserts that it is "impossible for God to lie." which literally means that God is incapable of lying. A truly omnipotent being could refuse to lie (therefore, "God won't lie," or "God does not lie.") but could not be limited in power and authority such that he could not lie.
2. Genesis 18:20-21 states, "Then the LORD said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.” This means that God was unaware of the magnitude of their sin, yet an omniscient (all-knowing) being surely would have known the true magnitude of their sin without having to "go down and see" to verify what he already knew.

A forum is not a good medium to share the entire thing, and the paper goes much deeper into the topic than this cursory glance. I took inspiration from Plato and covered virtually every argument that could be levied against my position with every detail I could think of. The conclusion I reached is that God knows all possibilities of what could happen, but does not know precisely which of those possibilities will happen at any given point or instance with certainty, and that God has the absolute authority to do anything within his creation if he chooses, but cannot exercise this absolute authority over every aspect of himself (cannot lie, cannot contradict Himself, cannot change His character, etc).
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Nations University call - by jb111 - 10-17-2017, 01:24 PM
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