10-13-2016, 07:57 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-13-2016, 07:59 AM by cookderosa.)
<this won't be my soapbox....this won't be my soapbox....this won't be my soapbox>
Homeschoolers get the "what about socialization" question as often as you hear people ask if CLEP is a legitimate way to earn credit, so you're going to get very emotional answers to that question, but mainly because it's a sensitive subject. I can only speak for myself, but let me say I have accumulated a lot of thoughts on this issue over the past 20 years, in addition, I've watched it play out in my family as well as the families of many of my friends. (I'll admit my bias, we only choose good families to be friends with, so my sample is exceptionally good )
I pulled this to help: Socialization Medical Definition | Merriam-Webster Medical Dictionary
socialization
noun so·cial·iza·tion
Medical Definition of socialization
: the process by which a human being beginning at infancy acquires the habits, beliefs, and accumulated knowledge of society through education and training for adult status
Now, for my opinion. It is my observation that schools do a crappy job socializing children to become adults because of the unavoidable nature of being in a group. Large groups, by their nature, create an artificial culture that may or may not develop the habits, beliefs, and knowledge of society that YOU want displayed by your kids. My opinion and observation is that some parents also do a crappy job socializing children to become adults.
So, to grow adults, you need dedicated and deliberate parents working their butts off to create good adults out of a child. I think when you put your kid in a group, you're outnumbered, and will have to work 10x as hard as the parent who is setting up socialization activities on purpose. OTOH, parents who deliberately restrict social development aren't doing their kid any favors - so it's not a "one-size-fits-all" and so you'll see some homeschool kids that are awkward and uncomfortable in public... BUT you'll see some public school children that are drug users, overtly sexual, inconsiderate of others, loud, mean, and unable to to behave "maturely" in public.
We have always been very deliberate with our kid's social development. For us, that's meant a host of things that had nothing to do with dropping them into a group of strangers and calling it good. It's hard work to raise good kids that can function as adults.
One final thought, some kids are introverts, and others are extroverts - so that doesn't change based on where they go to school. If you have an introvert, you'll have to work very hard at helping them feel comfortable forming relationships with peers, people of the opposite sex, people of all ages, people of authority as well as subordinates. Extroverts can figure a lot of that out on their own because they thrust themselves into more settings and experiences, so they have more opportunity.
I have 3 extroverts and 1 introvert.
I have 1 naturally driven and 3 that are average.
I have 2 naturally very smart and 2 with learning difficulties.
I have 2 that are always the center of attention, and 2 that avoid the spotlight.
I have 3 that are natural athletes and 1 that I have to force.
I have 2 that have a ton of friends, and 2 that have one close friend.
As you can see, there isn't a one-size-fits-all solution, but that also means there isn't a one-size-fits-all problem. You just have to realize that as much as homeschooling isn't one thing, neither is public schooling.
Homeschoolers get the "what about socialization" question as often as you hear people ask if CLEP is a legitimate way to earn credit, so you're going to get very emotional answers to that question, but mainly because it's a sensitive subject. I can only speak for myself, but let me say I have accumulated a lot of thoughts on this issue over the past 20 years, in addition, I've watched it play out in my family as well as the families of many of my friends. (I'll admit my bias, we only choose good families to be friends with, so my sample is exceptionally good )
I pulled this to help: Socialization Medical Definition | Merriam-Webster Medical Dictionary
socialization
noun so·cial·iza·tion
Medical Definition of socialization
: the process by which a human being beginning at infancy acquires the habits, beliefs, and accumulated knowledge of society through education and training for adult status
Now, for my opinion. It is my observation that schools do a crappy job socializing children to become adults because of the unavoidable nature of being in a group. Large groups, by their nature, create an artificial culture that may or may not develop the habits, beliefs, and knowledge of society that YOU want displayed by your kids. My opinion and observation is that some parents also do a crappy job socializing children to become adults.
So, to grow adults, you need dedicated and deliberate parents working their butts off to create good adults out of a child. I think when you put your kid in a group, you're outnumbered, and will have to work 10x as hard as the parent who is setting up socialization activities on purpose. OTOH, parents who deliberately restrict social development aren't doing their kid any favors - so it's not a "one-size-fits-all" and so you'll see some homeschool kids that are awkward and uncomfortable in public... BUT you'll see some public school children that are drug users, overtly sexual, inconsiderate of others, loud, mean, and unable to to behave "maturely" in public.
We have always been very deliberate with our kid's social development. For us, that's meant a host of things that had nothing to do with dropping them into a group of strangers and calling it good. It's hard work to raise good kids that can function as adults.
One final thought, some kids are introverts, and others are extroverts - so that doesn't change based on where they go to school. If you have an introvert, you'll have to work very hard at helping them feel comfortable forming relationships with peers, people of the opposite sex, people of all ages, people of authority as well as subordinates. Extroverts can figure a lot of that out on their own because they thrust themselves into more settings and experiences, so they have more opportunity.
I have 3 extroverts and 1 introvert.
I have 1 naturally driven and 3 that are average.
I have 2 naturally very smart and 2 with learning difficulties.
I have 2 that are always the center of attention, and 2 that avoid the spotlight.
I have 3 that are natural athletes and 1 that I have to force.
I have 2 that have a ton of friends, and 2 that have one close friend.
As you can see, there isn't a one-size-fits-all solution, but that also means there isn't a one-size-fits-all problem. You just have to realize that as much as homeschooling isn't one thing, neither is public schooling.