07-05-2014, 08:39 PM
"Morality and Religion are not the same thing"
they're absolutely the same thing -- to some religions
and that's the whole point
some people get their morality from their religion
others get it from biological/sociological evolution
others just get it from their government and from the judicial system
and if a person really believes morality comes from religion then what a horrible parent they would be to withhold that information from their child
parent: "don't steal"
child: "why"
parent: "I know why, but I'm not going to tell you, just don't, you'll have to figure out why on your own when you get older"
sure a parent could say "the golden rule" or 'just because" or "because I'm he parent and I said so"
or they could put it in terms of their religion, whether it be jewish, muslim, hindu or christian
and if they really have a religious foundation for their morality then shouldn't they say so, especially if "the golden rule" is directly opposite of what their religion teaches
or do you just want say "because I said so" and raise a little robot
and you better believe the whole "why is that man homeless" has religious foundations
sure, it doesn't to conservative atheists, who will just tell the child "that's what happens when you don't work hard in school"
and it doesn't to liberal atheists, who will just tell the child "he's poor and didn't have the same advantages you have so we need to help him"
but christian will absolutely have a religious answer to that
and I'm a muslim, or hindu or jewish person would have a religious answer too
no, for some people morality IS religion
you can't separate the two
they're absolutely the same thing -- to some religions
and that's the whole point
some people get their morality from their religion
others get it from biological/sociological evolution
others just get it from their government and from the judicial system
and if a person really believes morality comes from religion then what a horrible parent they would be to withhold that information from their child
parent: "don't steal"
child: "why"
parent: "I know why, but I'm not going to tell you, just don't, you'll have to figure out why on your own when you get older"
sure a parent could say "the golden rule" or 'just because" or "because I'm he parent and I said so"
or they could put it in terms of their religion, whether it be jewish, muslim, hindu or christian
and if they really have a religious foundation for their morality then shouldn't they say so, especially if "the golden rule" is directly opposite of what their religion teaches
or do you just want say "because I said so" and raise a little robot
and you better believe the whole "why is that man homeless" has religious foundations
sure, it doesn't to conservative atheists, who will just tell the child "that's what happens when you don't work hard in school"
and it doesn't to liberal atheists, who will just tell the child "he's poor and didn't have the same advantages you have so we need to help him"
but christian will absolutely have a religious answer to that
and I'm a muslim, or hindu or jewish person would have a religious answer too
no, for some people morality IS religion
you can't separate the two