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I don't think that there is. It would be nice if there was because that'd actually be useful to students. As it stands right now, I have no idea why I should even care if a school is accredited or not. Except that other people care, so I should, too.
At least with things like the FDA and food safety laws, you can go look up precisely what is and is not allowed in our food. I don't think that there's any good way to look up exactly what is and is not allowed at a college or university.
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(02-27-2022, 08:50 PM)jsd Wrote: anyone want to start a school with me? 
Call me when you need a transcript evaluator/degree planner!
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WGU had issues with financial aid because of the lack of instructor contact hours. The U.S. Department of Education saw them as a correspondence school, similar to Penn Foster and Ashworth. Normally, correspondence courses do not qualify for financial aid.
TESU is a state-funded school, so they're pressured to bring in something as to not be a total burden on taxpayers. Even if you're out-of-state and not receiving subsidized tuition rates, you're still financially benefiting from TESU's existence. They stay open because of New Jersey taxpayers.
I haven't gone through all the accreditation standards, but I remember that SACS has a 25% residency requirement, and they would not accredit 100% online schools. I don't know if they still refuse to accredit virtual schools, but it's the reason why APUS had to move. Obviously, the New England and Middle States associations have no problem with schools not having a 25% residency requirement.
Even when Excelsior wasn't offering courses, they had qualified faculty on staff.
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(02-28-2022, 05:30 PM)sanantone Wrote: ...I haven't gone through all the accreditation standards, but I remember that SACS has a 25% residency requirement, and they would not accredit 100% online schools...
This might be a situation where institutional accreditation might be useful as a new startup school wouldn't be restricted to the SACS if they were from that region.
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(02-28-2022, 10:16 PM)Alpha Wrote: (02-28-2022, 05:30 PM)sanantone Wrote: ...I haven't gone through all the accreditation standards, but I remember that SACS has a 25% residency requirement, and they would not accredit 100% online schools...
This might be a situation where institutional accreditation might be useful as a new startup school wouldn't be restricted to the SACS if they were from that region.
SACS isn't the only one with the requirement.
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In some ways, Spanish and Mexican universities already do something like this through their validation / partner programs. Universdad Isabel I certifies many educational businesses and programs by offering Masters Propios on the basis of those completed program with a prime example being ENEB. Also, Azteca University and University of Central Nicuragua are other examples that partner with international schools with a couple of them here in the USA with University of America being an example. You could get a validated degree from one of them based on partner school work to then take the degree or transcript to a foreign evaluator such as NACES to get it recognized as equivalent to a regional accredited degree or coursework.
These universities are often scrutinized by the 1st world educational system because of these partnerships. However, considering the increase of experimental learning credits being granted through study.com, sophia.com, coursera, and many other MOOCs, it is hypocritical to put those international partnerships down. It all boils down to money and politics.
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(03-23-2022, 06:52 PM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: In some ways, Spanish and Mexican universities already do something like this through their validation / partner programs. Universdad Isabel I certifies many educational businesses and programs by offering Masters Propios on the basis of those completed program with a prime example being ENEB. Also, Azteca University and University of Central Nicuragua are other examples that partner with international schools with a couple of them here in the USA with University of America being an example. You could get a validated degree from one of them based on partner school work to then take the degree or transcript to a foreign evaluator such as NACES to get it recognized as equivalent to a regional accredited degree or coursework.
These universities are often scrutinized by the 1st world educational system because of these partnerships. However, considering the increase of experimental learning credits being granted through study.com, sophia.com, coursera, and many other MOOCs, it is hypocritical to put those international partnerships down. It all boils down to money and politics.
I agree money and politics is definitely a factor! However, I won't pay thousands of dollars for an unaccredited graduate degree. I like ENEB because of its affiliation and price.
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(02-27-2022, 08:50 PM)jsd Wrote: I wonder if an accreditor (looking at you, DEAC) would let someone start a college that is intended as a 100% degree completion school. Or like 99% degree completion. not one that is just very generous with transfer credit like the Big 3, but one whose actual sole purpose is just to turn your credits accumulated elsewhere into a degree.
So the school would have a group of degrees they offer, but it offers zero courses toward those degrees (except maybe some capstone or something, maybe a PLA course, etc). Similar to what we are already so used to doing around here, there would be a degree map of course categories that are accepted toward the school's specific degrees, and you have to transfer them in from various sources because there's no way to take them at the school.
Just a formal way of what we've been doing at the big 3 for years, but now a school completely dedicated to it.
Very little overhead since you're not paying for faculty to run courses constantly, or dealing with financial aid or any of the real larger staff that keeps the lights on at a normal school, other than a registrar department and student advising. Degree plans would need some regular review for relevant changes and such, but that's not a year round effort. You get experts and academics to do that annually or whatever....
just a thought.
anyone want to start a school with me? 
I have wanted to start a school ever since I watched “Accepted” in 2006. Seriously though I think this is a great idea.
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(03-26-2022, 12:01 AM)Midnightsky7 Wrote: I have wanted to start a school ever since I watched “Accepted” in 2006. Seriously though I think this is a great idea.
South Harmon Institute of Technology is taken. So what other fun acronym will you pick?
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