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01-28-2021, 07:10 AM
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(01-28-2021, 03:40 AM)rachel83az Wrote: I just got my acceptance email from Olivet but it's not allowing me to log in. I'll give it a couple of hours, just in case there's still something initializing, and try again later before emailing IT.
Check their password rule.
ONU- ' last four digits of your student id' + 'first three letters of your last name' is your password.
(example: ONU-4567aul)
Student id is not your password.
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(01-28-2021, 07:10 AM)nomaduser Wrote: (01-28-2021, 03:40 AM)rachel83az Wrote: I just got my acceptance email from Olivet but it's not allowing me to log in. I'll give it a couple of hours, just in case there's still something initializing, and try again later before emailing IT.
Check their password rule.
ONU- ' last four digits of your student id' + 'first three letters of your last name' is your password. Student id is not your password.
(example: ONU-1234abc)
- Type “ONU” in capital letters
- Type a hyphen (no spaces)
- Type the last 4 digits of your Student ID number (shown above)
- Type the first 3 letters of your last name in lower case letters
Yeah, I was initially confused but that's not the issue. Let's say my last name is Smith and my ID is 1234567. I entered ONU-4567smi and it doesn't work. I also tried all caps. I tried all lowercase. I tried the first four numbers instead of the last four. Nada.
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Password reset and I am in! I have to say that first impressions are it doesn't really look like a university site. I'm not sure yet if this is a good or bad thing. It kind of reminds me of Acclaim; commercial rather than academic. There are actually 15 courses, not the 14 originally listed. The extra one is GEO 121 - Physical Geography.
(BTW, Between XAMK, Strayer, and Olivet all using Microsoft sign-ins, it's a tiny bit annoying to get logged in and set up properly.)
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I'm wondering how the exams looks like
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Visual communications (3) Art History 2 (3) Introduction to psychology (3) Introduction to Ethics (3) US History 2 (3) Human Biology (3)
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Shmoop: Holocaust Literature (3) American National Government (3) Introduction to Drama (3)
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(01-28-2021, 11:16 AM)rachel83az Wrote: Password reset and I am in! I have to say that first impressions are it doesn't really look like a university site. I'm not sure yet if this is a good or bad thing. It kind of reminds me of Acclaim; commercial rather than academic. There are actually 15 courses, not the 14 originally listed. The extra one is GEO 121 - Physical Geography.
(BTW, Between XAMK, Strayer, and Olivet all using Microsoft sign-ins, it's a tiny bit annoying to get logged in and set up properly.)
I and my 2 kids both have multiple Gmail account logins - there are like 12 or 14 on my computer, it's annoying AF.
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This is pretty awesome! I love that they are offering a Latin American History and Politics course. I might try and get some of the kids that I know locally to enroll in that.
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01-29-2021, 08:28 AM
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So, the way the lessons are organized is somewhat of a cross between SDC, OnlineDegree, and traditional learning. Yes, there are textbooks/readings for different courses. No, you don't have to pay for them (as promised).
Each class is broken up into different modules and each module is broken down into different units. Each unit has an estimated time to completion but I don't think that this takes into account the external reading (maybe it does?). In addition to readings, there are also videos in each unit. At least early on in the modules, these seem to be mainly sourced from quality YouTube channels.
At the end of each module, there is a Trailhead/Salesforce quiz. These are similar to the SDC quizzes. But, if you get everything right on the first try, you get 100 points. Second attempt, 50 points. Subsequent attempts, 25 points. These points seem to be there mainly to track your progress because I don't think these have any bearing on your grade (unless I have missed something somewhere, which is possible). In addition to the quiz, there is also an easily-missed link to an assignment. These may be multiple-choice tests. These may be written assessments. It depends on the class. These assignments ARE graded.
Since Olivet seems to think that keeping the exact contents is a secret is essential, I'm not going to go into more detail and possibly violate the academic integrity policy. But I do think that most people here will like and appreciate the layout of these classes.
One more thing: from what I've seen so far, these classes ARE more work than ASU EA. So, don't sign up and expect easy first-year classes like (most of) ASU's offerings are. For instance, BIB-215 has a total estimate of over a hundred hours of study. But, even if you are already familiar with the Christian Bible, there is likely going to be enough new information that it could take you quite a bit longer than a hundred hours. College Writing I & II are also both over 100 hours but I don't think that they take into account the essays that you're expected to write.
If you're hoping to bust these courses out in a week or two like many other self-paced options, realize that's not the way these courses are set up. It may be possible for some people, but I would expect that most students will probably need to spend at least a month on any given course. And you might even need the full 8-15 weeks of a non-self-paced option. Although the platform itself is a tiny bit strange, these are genuine and well-thought-out attempts at translating a whole university study experience into full-bodied self-paced courses. The material is neither super quick nor mind-numbingly easy.
I look forward to seeing what else Olivet has to offer in the future!
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01-29-2021, 08:45 AM
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Good to know. But amount of work to put is way too much at least for me. Just thought- based on few reviews- 100hours of study per section for CPA Exam. Even though its different level of difficulty but its definitely time better spent
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(01-29-2021, 08:28 AM)rachel83az Wrote: So, the way the lessons are organized is somewhat of a cross between SDC, OnlineDegree, and traditional learning. Yes, there are textbooks/readings for different courses. No, you don't have to pay for them (as promised).
Each class is broken up into different modules and each module is broken down into different units. Each unit has an estimated time to completion but I don't think that this takes into account the external reading (maybe it does?). In addition to readings, there are also videos in each unit. At least early on in the modules, these seem to be mainly sourced from quality YouTube channels.
At the end of each module, there is a Trailhead/Salesforce quiz. These are similar to the SDC quizzes. But, if you get everything right on the first try, you get 100 points. Second attempt, 50 points. Subsequent attempts, 25 points. These points seem to be there mainly to track your progress because I don't think these have any bearing on your grade (unless I have missed something somewhere, which is possible). In addition to the quiz, there is also an easily-missed link to an assignment. These may be multiple-choice tests. These may be written assessments. It depends on the class. These assignments ARE graded.
Since Olivet seems to think that keeping the exact contents is a secret is essential, I'm not going to go into more detail and possibly violate the academic integrity policy. But I do think that most people here will like and appreciate the layout of these classes.
One more thing: from what I've seen so far, these classes ARE more work than ASU EA. So, don't sign up and expect easy first-year classes like (most of) ASU's offerings are. For instance, BIB-215 has a total estimate of over a hundred hours of study. But, even if you are already familiar with the Christian Bible, there is likely going to be enough new information that it could take you quite a bit longer than a hundred hours. College Writing I & II are also both over 100 hours but I don't think that they take into account the essays that you're expected to write.
If you're hoping to bust these courses out in a week or two like many other self-paced options, realize that's not the way these courses are set up. It may be possible for some people, but I would expect that most students will probably need to spend at least a month on any given course. And you might even need the full 8-15 weeks of a non-self-paced option. Although the platform itself is a tiny bit strange, these are genuine and well-thought-out attempts at translating a whole university study experience into full-bodied self-paced courses. The material is neither super quick nor mind-numbingly easy.
I look forward to seeing what else Olivet has to offer in the future!
Sounds very similar to TEL's setup, especially in terms of well-set up, well-done, more work than an "easy" course you might find somewhere. I'd liken it to a regular college-level course at most schools, rather than being anything like Study.com, SL, Sophia, etc. These aren't going to be things you're going to blow through and still get a good grade, even if you know the material, because quite a bit of the grade is based on assignments rather than exams (so my bad tester will be happy, my good tester will opt for something else if he can).
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(01-29-2021, 08:45 AM)Cofffeee Wrote: Good to know. But amount of work to put is way too much at least for me. Just thought- based on few reviews- 100hours of study per section for CPA Exam. Even though its different level of difficulty but its definitely time better spent
Might not work for you but I do think that these are very good options for anyone who wants to go to COSC or TESU and needs additional RA credits for their degree. A random RA non-self-paced option should have about the same workload. In theory. ASU EA happens to be exceptionally easy credit for what they offer.
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