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Using Grad School Credits for Second Bachelors
#21
I'll send an email to TESU because I don't want people reading this forum to be misinformed.

(02-21-2019, 02:28 PM)mysonx3 Wrote: Given that many here have used the Harvard Poetry in America grad credits, you can be certain that they do not reject all grad credits being used in an undergraduate degree. What exactly the policy is, who knows, but it is most certainly not a blanket rejection.
Yes, people are currently using grad credits toward their undergraduate degrees. I don't know how I can make it any clearer that phone reps do not know how credits are evaluated.
Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
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(02-21-2019, 02:29 PM)sanantone Wrote: I'll send an email to TESU because I don't want people reading this forum to be misinformed.

(02-21-2019, 02:28 PM)mysonx3 Wrote: Given that many here have used the Harvard Poetry in America grad credits, you can be certain that they do not reject all grad credits being used in an undergraduate degree. What exactly the policy is, who knows, but it is most certainly not a blanket rejection.
Yes, people are currently using grad credits toward their undergraduate degrees. I don't know how I can make it any clearer that phone reps do not know how credits are evaluated.
It's common for people on internet forums to claim to know better than the people who "ought" to know, but this is one of the cases where it's actually true. I would say that random guesses have had a better success rate than answers from TESU
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#23
(02-21-2019, 02:35 PM)mysonx3 Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 02:29 PM)sanantone Wrote: I'll send an email to TESU because I don't want people reading this forum to be misinformed.

(02-21-2019, 02:28 PM)mysonx3 Wrote: Given that many here have used the Harvard Poetry in America grad credits, you can be certain that they do not reject all grad credits being used in an undergraduate degree. What exactly the policy is, who knows, but it is most certainly not a blanket rejection.
Yes, people are currently using grad credits toward their undergraduate degrees. I don't know how I can make it any clearer that phone reps do not know how credits are evaluated.
It's common for people on internet forums to claim to know better than the people who "ought" to know, but this is one of the cases where it's actually true. I would say that random guesses have had a better success rate than answers from TESU
Also, as a general rule, admissions departments at any school are not the best people to contact with specific credit transfer questions. Responsible admissions personnel will ask an academic department or the registrar when they aren't sure about something. TESU's phone reps are not responsible.
Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
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#24
TESU Admissions/advising are particularly bad at answering questions, I would not trust a word they say about almost anything - and certainly not something like this. We KNOW FOR A FACT that what they are telling you is incorrect.
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#25
I had graduate economics credits transfer in as the following while I was pursuing a BSBA:

ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
A
2.00

ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
A
1.50

ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
A
0.50

ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
A
2.00

I had about a dozen professional education professional development graduate credits from University of the Pacific and Chapman University that were not accepted.

The credits from my completed master's degree (MAT) transferred in as this while I was completing my BSBA:

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
CR
3.00

EDL-520 Cycle of Leadership
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDL-510 Inquiry Process
A-
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDU-319 Classroom Management Tech.
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
B+
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education

The really strange part was that two of my master's classes tranferred in as master's credits even though I was only pursuing a bachelors degree. They also transferred as Ed. Leadership credits rather than simple EDU credits. Again, that was kind of strange.

So, I think that TESU mostly accepts graduate credits, however, it is an inconsistent transfer situation.
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(02-21-2019, 06:33 PM)eriehiker Wrote: I had graduate economics credits transfer in as the following while I was pursuing a BSBA:

ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
A
2.00

ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
A
1.50

ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
A
0.50

ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
A
2.00

I had about a dozen professional education professional development graduate credits from University of the Pacific and Chapman University that were not accepted.

The credits from my completed master's degree (MAT) transferred in as this while I was completing my BSBA:

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
CR
3.00

EDL-520 Cycle of Leadership
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDL-510 Inquiry Process
A-
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDU-319 Classroom Management Tech.
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
B+
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education

The really strange part was that two of my master's classes tranferred in as master's credits even though I was only pursuing a bachelors degree.  They also transferred as Ed. Leadership credits rather than simple EDU credits.  Again, that was kind of strange.

So, I think that TESU mostly accepts graduate credits, however, it is an inconsistent transfer situation.

Thanks.  I spoke to a couple of people in Admissions and they all said the same thing so they must be getting that message from somewhere (even if they are clueless).  It's not unexpected that it's treated inconsistently.  However, my understanding is that you have to apply and then pay for a class to enroll before they even look at your plan and opine.  Is that correct?  That would leave you out about $1,200?  

How long ago was it they accepted those credits for you?
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#27
(02-21-2019, 06:33 PM)eriehiker Wrote: I had graduate economics credits transfer in as the following while I was pursuing a BSBA:

ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
A
2.00

ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
A
1.50

ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
A
0.50

ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
A
2.00

I had about a dozen professional education professional development graduate credits from University of the Pacific and Chapman University that were not accepted.

The credits from my completed master's degree (MAT) transferred in as this while I was completing my BSBA:

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
CR
3.00

EDL-520 Cycle of Leadership
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDL-510 Inquiry Process
A-
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDU-319 Classroom Management Tech.
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
B+
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education

The really strange part was that two of my master's classes tranferred in as master's credits even though I was only pursuing a bachelors degree.  They also transferred as Ed. Leadership credits rather than simple EDU credits.  Again, that was kind of strange.

So, I think that TESU mostly accepts graduate credits, however, it is an inconsistent transfer situation.

I wouldn't say it's inconsistent. Whenever TESU sees "professional development," they assume they aren't credit-bearing courses. 

(02-21-2019, 06:57 PM)satori Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 06:33 PM)eriehiker Wrote: I had graduate economics credits transfer in as the following while I was pursuing a BSBA:

ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
A
2.00

ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
A
1.50

ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
A
0.50

ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
A
2.00

I had about a dozen professional education professional development graduate credits from University of the Pacific and Chapman University that were not accepted.

The credits from my completed master's degree (MAT) transferred in as this while I was completing my BSBA:

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
CR
3.00

EDL-520 Cycle of Leadership
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDL-510 Inquiry Process
A-
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDU-319 Classroom Management Tech.
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
A
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
B+
3.00

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education

The really strange part was that two of my master's classes tranferred in as master's credits even though I was only pursuing a bachelors degree.  They also transferred as Ed. Leadership credits rather than simple EDU credits.  Again, that was kind of strange.

So, I think that TESU mostly accepts graduate credits, however, it is an inconsistent transfer situation.

Thanks.  I spoke to a couple of people in Admissions and they all said the same thing so they must be getting that message from somewhere (even if they are clueless).  It's not unexpected that it's treated inconsistently.  However, my understanding is that you have to apply and then pay for a class to enroll before they even look at your plan and opine.  Is that correct?  That would leave you out about $1,200?  

How long ago was it they accepted those credits for you?

You get two evaluations after you apply. You don't need to enroll to get an evaluation.
Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
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#28
FYI, since this was a duplicate of the earlier thread with the same name, I merged the two together.
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#29
(02-21-2019, 06:33 PM)eriehiker Wrote: I had graduate economics credits transfer in as the following while I was pursuing a BSBA:

ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics
ECO-499 Special Topics in Economics

I had about a dozen professional education professional development graduate credits from University of the Pacific and Chapman University that were not accepted.

The credits from my completed master's degree (MAT) transferred in as this while I was completing my BSBA:

EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
EDL-520 Cycle of Leadership
EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
EDL-510 Inquiry Process
EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
EDU-319 Classroom Management Tech.
EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
EDU-499 Special Topics in Education
EDU-499 Special Topics in Education

So, I think that TESU mostly accepts graduate credits, however, it is an inconsistent transfer situation.

The reason for this was not that they didn't accept your Grad-level credits - all of your credits transferred in (I know this because they were given a course equivalency number, which means they showed up on your transcript, probably as "other credit").  The reason they all didn't come into the degree was because EDU courses are considered Free Electives for the BSBA program (and most other ones as well).  So, once your 6cr of Free Electives was filled, there was nowhere to put these EDU courses.

The Econ courses would apply to both Gen Ed and the BSBA MAN AOS, so those would have been used to the max in your degree.
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EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
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From the registrar:                       
Quote:Thomas Edison State University will accept a maximum of 30 SH of credit from an accredited graduate program toward the requirements of a baccalaureate or associate degree.  However, please be advised that many graduate programs will not accept graduate credits toward their graduate degrees if those credits were applied to an undergraduate degree.   [P]If you expect to apply the graduate credits toward a graduate degree, you should consult the graduate school you plan to attend before applying these credits toward your Thomas Edison State University degree.
Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
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