Now I realize why so many of you went for 2nd Bachelors! (TESC Enrollment Fee)

[dackmolly]

along the lines of a double major:

re-posted this over on a different thread
http://www.degreeforum.net/excelsior-tho...post105342

(don't know how to delete a post on here. . . sorry guys)

[CollegeStudent7]

CollegeStudent, I previously advised you to consider Empire State College for some Nat Sci UL credits, but I'd suggest some other options because their courses are very time-intensive.

You already have 4 UL from Microbiology, so how about....

3 from the Pathophysiology ECE
3 from the MIS DSST
3 from either the ECE Bioethics or Ohio U's Bioethics Credit-by-Exam
3 from ALEKS Business Statistics
3 from the Network Technology TECEP

Get approval from an advisor, but it may actually be possible to fully test out of the Nat Sci degree after all.

Hey Y, I guess I should have asked you to clarify these beforehand. I do not know what MIS DSST is and what would a Network Technology TECEP count for ? Just don't want my advisor to be baffled.

Communication with TESC has become a big pain the @$$.

[Lindagerr]

Yenisei--From TESC BA in NS/M credit requirements

II. Area of Study: Natural Sciences/Mathematics 33 A. REQUIREMENTS

• 1. Students complete 33 credits in the natural sciences/mathematics concentration.

• 2. At least three different subjects must be included, which provides for breadth of knowledge in the natural sciences/mathematics. Also, students must earn at least 12 credits in one subject area. A maximum of 18 credits can be earned in any one subject area in order to have a balanced interdisciplinary concentration.

• 3. Courses transferred to Thomas Edison State College are equated to the following levels: 100, 200, 300 or 400. A maximum of two college-level courses equating to the 100 level can be applied toward the area of concentration. A minimum of 18 credits equating to 300 or 400 Thomas Edison State College courses are required.

• 4. LIB-495 Liberal Arts Capstone strongly recommended

III. Free Electives 27 Total 120
Note: The following areas are considered natural sciences/mathematics and may be used as a subject area in the concentration: biology, computer science, geology, physics, chemistry, environmental science, mathematics.

[Yenisei]

Hey Y, I guess I should have asked you to clarify these beforehand. I do not know what MIS DSST is and what would a Network Technology TECEP count for ? Just don't want my advisor to be baffled.

Communication with TESC has become a big pain the @$$.

It is the Management Information Systems DSST (formerly DANTES) exam, and counts for computer science credit. What you (and I) would like to know is if the Network Technology TECEP also counts for comp sci credit in your area of study.

Linda, she'll meet those requirements if all of my suggestions are approved, and perhaps also even if one isn't because she already has biology and chemistry credits. Biology will be where she earns over 12 credits.

[CollegeStudent7]

It is the Management Information Systems DSST (formerly DANTES) exam, and counts for computer science credit. What you (and I) would like to know is if the Network Technology TECEP also counts for comp sci credit in your area of study.

Linda, she'll meet those requirements if all of my suggestions are approved, and perhaps also even if one isn't because she already has biology and chemistry credits. Biology will be where she earns over 12 credits.

Thanks. I just emailed my advisor a whole HOOPLA of info. Asked her about finishing BA then BSBA, etc. If she doesn't get back to me within 48 business hours I'll just harass her by phone to get some answers teehee:roflol:

[CollegeStudent7]

CollegeStudent7 – while I appreciate your enthusiasm and your desire to be well informed before proceeding, the requests/questions are more in line with what the Advisement Center handles. However, in order to have your questions addressed by the Advisement Center, you must be a fully enrolled student. I encourage you to enroll in order to have access to these services. Success in your future endeavors at Thomas Edison State College.

TESC Advisor

Yup, that's what they just sent me. I took out names for privacy. I explained that my FAFSA went through and that I planned on using FA to cover enrollment as it's pretty steep. I guess I understand where they are coming from, but I cannot believe that I cannot have some simple questions answered before heaping over the $2,600+ for enrollment. I mean, how am I supposed to devise a plan?

I did the math and out-of-pocket I'll be spending just under 5k to complete my degree at TESC. It's the enrollment fee that REALLY gets ya. It's still reasonable, but I've now been toying with the idea of completing my degree at Empire State College. After all, I'm a NY resident and there don't seem to be very steep fees. :
Undergraduate Tuition and Fees

Only problem is...although affordable, it looks like they require 32 credits directly through them:Transfer Credit | SUNY Empire State College

That would be more expensive than TESC and slow me down a bit.

Anyway..rant over. A little sad, but what can I say huh?

[CollegeStudent7]

PS. Is there anything special I need to know before I enroll? Can you still transfer cleps and other tests over or is that something that should be done prior?

[Yenisei]

Sorry to hear that you didn't get the answer you needed. Empire State has some interesting courses, but they are pretty writing-intensive and require a lot of posting to discussion boards, i.e., they will take a lot of time, and I don't think you have that sort of time, especially since they make you take a course dedicated to planning your concentration. I have previously advised people to consider them for courses but the feedback I have gotten has changed my mind- not because their courses are bad, simply because there are faster and less expensive options.

You have a decision to make here, but, IMHO, a course of action that takes longer and is more expensive isn't the best one for you.

[CollegeStudent7]

Sorry to hear that you didn't get the answer you needed. Empire State has some interesting courses, but they are pretty writing-intensive and require a lot of posting to discussion boards, i.e., they will take a lot of time, and I don't think you have that sort of time, especially since they make you take a course dedicated to planning your concentration. I have previously advised people to consider them for courses but the feedback I have gotten has changed my mind- not because their courses are bad, simply because there are faster and less expensive options.

You have a decision to make here, but, IMHO, a course of action that takes longer and is more expensive isn't the best one for you.

Yeah the 32-required credits taken at the ESC campus really turned me off, otherwise I would have gone for it. TESC seems to accept a TON of testing out and it would be feasible for me to finish within a year. ESC seems like it would take me 1.5-2 as they are not flexible and I'm juggling school with a full time schedule.

The advisor from TESC told me they have 12 semesters and they start every month, so I can apply my FA and get started. Only problem is, I think I only got 5,500/year from PELL, so I'm really wondering how that works out. I want to reserve that for classes that cannot be tested out of. What a HUGE headache our country's educational system is. I'm trying so hard to figure out everything I test out of. She said once I enroll, then academic advisement is available to me. Stuck on the fence. I have no idea how you guys all figure out your academic plan as there doesn't seem to be a clear cut way and the big 3 generally aren't going to tell you how you can test out, from my knowledge.

[Yenisei]

With the caveat that I don't know what else you need other than the 14 addition UL credits for the Nat Sci & Math Area of Study, the only questions you should have regarding what you need for those UL credits are:

-Is the Pathophysiology ECE considered UL at TESC (it should be).

-Can the Network Technology TECEP be used for UL Nat Sci & Math credit (no idea at this point)

-Can you used ALEKS Business Statistics for UL Nat Sci & Math credit (ryoder says this is the case- if so take only that course and no other statistics course)

AFAIK, you should be able to test out of any LL requirements both in the Area of Study (should you need to) or Gen Ed. If it turns out you need to take a TESC course, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it, but what I have outlined to you on this thread would, IMHO, be the path of least resistance. Bang out the LL stuff you know you'll need for Gen ED, the MIS DSST and maybe then enroll- ask first on this forum though to update everyone where you are.