Possible Pierpont BOG Alternative? EWVCC

[bjcheung77]

If you're not set on AAS, and AALS would do, or any associates, then get the freebies on route to the bachelors from UMPI and TESU for examples... I think there are other institutions that would allow this, as long as the associates doesn't have a capstone, you're most likely able to transfer everything from the associates to the bachelors and ladder up that way.

[ReyMysterioso]

I can’t find a minimum year(s) out of high school requirement for Eastern WV. My stepdaughter isn’t happy with her local community college and would be interested in accelerating the process but she’s been out of high school only since May. Will have 40 RA credit hours by the end of the fall semester from community college, dual enrollment and good old ASU Universal Learner. I know the BOG is intended for adults - but 18 is an adult sooooo…. Possibility?

[bjcheung77]

One year after high school, I would have to guess, by June of next year at the earliest, or when she turns 19... Take your pick, having said that, try to get the non AAS, they can take dual enrollment/homeschool for the Associates.

[andersonsouzarj1]

For ACE credits, the TEEX classes if accepted could also further reduce the cost.

There are also some asynchronous options out there for free or cheaper RA credits that can be used for the 9 outside RA credits required:
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Fr..._of_Credit

Clackamas Community College + Jacksonville State University - 4 free credits
Tohono O’odham Community College - $34.25/credit = ~ $205 total for 6 credits

Sorry I think I have found a great deal comparing to piermont. The star is TOCC, they have this amazing AASC and transferring 45 CR, that would leave us 15 CR x 34.35 more or less 600 dollars and a great associate degree. The question is as I can’t find in their website about CR transfer into the program neither minimum RÃ, I just guessed 15, but can’t confirm at this point. 

Is there anyone there how has anymore info? 

PS: my goal is to transfer to UMPI BAS

And anything below $1000 for the associate, I’m also no-US so fewer option at least this one does accept international applicants

[Hotdogman1]

Sorry I think I have found a great deal comparing to piermont. The star is TOCC, they have this amazing AASC and transferring 45 CR, that would leave us 15 CR x 34.35 more or less 600 dollars and a great associate degree. The question is as I can’t find in their website about CR transfer into the program neither minimum RÃ, I just guessed 15, but can’t confirm at this point. 

Is there anyone there how has anymore info? 

PS: my goal is to transfer to UMPI BAS

And anything below $1000 for the associate, I’m also no-US so fewer option at least this one does accept international applicants

If you're starting without an AAS, it's probably better/cheaper/quicker to skip the BAS and just do the BLS or BA instead. However, this comment doesn't answer your question or add any new information so I looked into it:

Link to 24-25 Tohono O'odham Community College Catalog https://tocc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024..._final.pdf
The AAS Business Management requires 60 credits. 15 credits are required for residency and 45 transfer credits can be applied to a degree. You should also use the Catalog to look at degrees since the degree information on the CC website is out of date for some reason.
“A maximum of 75% of credits from accredited institutions can be accepted toward the certificate or degree; i.e., 25% of the credits that count toward a certificate or degree must be taken at TOCC.” (24-25 Catalog page 26)

The school accepts CLEP exams (24-25 Catalog page 27). I couldn’t find anything on specific exams on the CC website or College Board CLEP database, but I did locate a list on aztransfer (https://aztransmac2.asu.edu/cgi-bin/WebO...w/2.0.13.5)

While it seems like the CC accepts several CLEP exams, most of them satisfy the same requirement. It looks like only 13 credits will apply to the AAS BM:

• College Composition satisfies 3 out of 6 credit English Composition Requirement “WRT 101 Writing I”
  
• Precalculus, College Algebra, and Calculus all satisfy the 4 credit Math Requirement “MAT 142H College Mathematics or higher”
  
• Principles of Microeconomic, History of the US I, History of the US II all satisfy the 3 credit Social and Behavioral Sciences requirement “Any course with prefix ECN, GEO, HIS, PHI, POS, PSY, or SSE”
  
• American Government satisfies 3 of the 6 credit Electives requirement “Choose any course designated with the following prefixes: ACC, BUS, CIS, CSA, MGT, MKT, POS, or PSY”
  

I am unsure if the CC will accept alternative credits. From Sophia “We haven’t previously worked with “Tohono O'odham Community College”. Check with your university’s registrar to see if they accept Sophia transfer credits.”

[durain]

Sorry I think I have found a great deal comparing to piermont. The star is TOCC, they have this amazing AASC and transferring 45 CR, that would leave us 15 CR x 34.35 more or less 600 dollars and a great associate degree. The question is as I can’t find in their website about CR transfer into the program neither minimum RÃ, I just guessed 15, but can’t confirm at this point. 

Is there anyone there how has anymore info? 

PS: my goal is to transfer to UMPI BAS

And anything below $1000 for the associate, I’m also no-US so fewer option at least this one does accept international applicants

If you're starting without an AAS, it's probably better/cheaper/quicker to skip the BAS and just do the BLS or BA instead. However, this comment doesn't answer your question or add any new information so I looked into it:

Link to 24-25 Tohono O'odham Community College Catalog https://tocc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024..._final.pdf
The AAS Business Management requires 60 credits. 15 credits are required for residency and 45 transfer credits can be applied to a degree. You should also use the Catalog to look at degrees since the degree information on the CC website is out of date for some reason.
“A maximum of 75% of credits from accredited institutions can be accepted toward the certificate or degree; i.e., 25% of the credits that count toward a certificate or degree must be taken at TOCC.” (24-25 Catalog page 26)

The school accepts CLEP exams (24-25 Catalog page 27). I couldn’t find anything on specific exams on the CC website or College Board CLEP database, but I did locate a list on aztransfer (https://aztransmac2.asu.edu/cgi-bin/WebO...w/2.0.13.5)

While it seems like the CC accepts several CLEP exams, most of them satisfy the same requirement. It looks like only 13 credits will apply to the AAS BM:

• College Composition satisfies 3 out of 6 credit English Composition Requirement “WRT 101 Writing I”
  
• Precalculus, College Algebra, and Calculus all satisfy the 4 credit Math Requirement “MAT 142H College Mathematics or higher”
  
• Principles of Microeconomic, History of the US I, History of the US II all satisfy the 3 credit Social and Behavioral Sciences requirement “Any course with prefix ECN, GEO, HIS, PHI, POS, PSY, or SSE”
  
• American Government satisfies 3 of the 6 credit Electives requirement “Choose any course designated with the following prefixes: ACC, BUS, CIS, CSA, MGT, MKT, POS, or PSY”
  

I am unsure if the CC will accept alternative credits. From Sophia “We haven’t previously worked with “Tohono O'odham Community College”. Check with your university’s registrar to see if they accept Sophia transfer credits.”

Just to add, the following required courses cannot be transferred or waived. I'm not sure how difficult they are.

THO 101 Elementary Tohono O’odham
 or
 THO 106 Conversational Tohono O’odham I

[MEarlBITW]

Sorry I think I have found a great deal comparing to piermont. The star is TOCC, they have this amazing AASC and transferring 45 CR, that would leave us 15 CR x 34.35 more or less 600 dollars and a great associate degree. The question is as I can’t find in their website about CR transfer into the program neither minimum RÃ, I just guessed 15, but can’t confirm at this point. 

Is there anyone there how has anymore info? 

PS: my goal is to transfer to UMPI BAS

And anything below $1000 for the associate, I’m also no-US so fewer option at least this one does accept international applicants

If you're starting without an AAS, it's probably better/cheaper/quicker to skip the BAS and just do the BLS or BA instead. However, this comment doesn't answer your question or add any new information so I looked into it:

Link to 24-25 Tohono O'odham Community College Catalog https://tocc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024..._final.pdf
The AAS Business Management requires 60 credits. 15 credits are required for residency and 45 transfer credits can be applied to a degree. You should also use the Catalog to look at degrees since the degree information on the CC website is out of date for some reason.
“A maximum of 75% of credits from accredited institutions can be accepted toward the certificate or degree; i.e., 25% of the credits that count toward a certificate or degree must be taken at TOCC.” (24-25 Catalog page 26)

The school accepts CLEP exams (24-25 Catalog page 27). I couldn’t find anything on specific exams on the CC website or College Board CLEP database, but I did locate a list on aztransfer (https://aztransmac2.asu.edu/cgi-bin/WebO...w/2.0.13.5)

While it seems like the CC accepts several CLEP exams, most of them satisfy the same requirement. It looks like only 13 credits will apply to the AAS BM:

• College Composition satisfies 3 out of 6 credit English Composition Requirement “WRT 101 Writing I”
  
• Precalculus, College Algebra, and Calculus all satisfy the 4 credit Math Requirement “MAT 142H College Mathematics or higher”
  
• Principles of Microeconomic, History of the US I, History of the US II all satisfy the 3 credit Social and Behavioral Sciences requirement “Any course with prefix ECN, GEO, HIS, PHI, POS, PSY, or SSE”
  
• American Government satisfies 3 of the 6 credit Electives requirement “Choose any course designated with the following prefixes: ACC, BUS, CIS, CSA, MGT, MKT, POS, or PSY”
  

I am unsure if the CC will accept alternative credits. From Sophia “We haven’t previously worked with “Tohono O'odham Community College”. Check with your university’s registrar to see if they accept Sophia transfer credits.”

Just to add, the following required courses cannot be transferred or waived. I'm not sure how difficult they are.

THO 101 Elementary Tohono O’odham
 or
 THO 106 Conversational Tohono O’odham I

TOCC alum here.

I did both of my degrees (AALA and AASW) during COVID, and I did all of mine online. Most tribal entities stayed remote longer than everyone else. That being said, check and make sure that all classes are being offered synchronously, or that they are normal online classes. I can state from experience that nearly every TOCC professor/instructor is geared to help students succeed. 

Looking at my graduation app, I transferred in all but 15 of the credit hours for the AALA, so they did take 46 credit hours (the extra one for my hard science). I took THO 101, HIS 122, POL 214, BUS 220 and PSY 214. Now, all of mine were RA credits, but per the link at (https://tocc.edu/student-information/), the DO accept credit by placement/examination, so I think there's a fair shot of getting credit. Again, based on my experience, they are more than willing to help students. 

I was only an extra nine credits away for my AASW, and all three of those (SWU 171, 291, and 295) were online as well, and with the same professor. So, for 24 credits, x 31.5 = 756 dollars, I added two degrees to my tally. 

THO 101 is like any language class. It's a challenge, but there is a lot of understanding and help for a non-Native speaker. I scored a B. Every other class was an A for me. As long as you're respectful of their time and traditions, you'll be fine.

[midnite123]

Most of the 9 WV community colleges have the same requirements, they just need 3 residency credits, 12 RA, you want to make sure they will take the CLEP or ACE alternative credits and allow you to max that transfer into their BOG AAS.  As another example - You can also investigate WVNCC as they only require 3 credits residency, it may be best to see which of the 9 WV CC's have emphasis or minors you can take, then ladder or transition to UMPI, TAMUC, TESU, WGU, etc.

Hi,
so do these colleges accept Sophia?
I have 42 Ra credits and would like to get an AAS Or AA