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I was helping out at church today in the kitchen. I happily told the ladies there about my experience with taking my first CLEP test yesterday. One of the ladies then said, "You know what my two sons say about going that route?" and she proceeded to give me a big 'thumbs down' gesture. Well, it happened two more times, I guess just so I would be sure to understand that testing was somehow, a lower form of education. I know she meant well (at least, I hope so), but it kinda took the wind out of my sails.
All I know is that after I studied for 2 weeks preparing for the U.S. History CLEP (without the help of a professor), I can truthfully say that the knowledge I gained is mine to keep. It meant something to me because I chose to study it and began at my skill level, only doing what I needed to add to my learning. I didn't have to learn it all over from the beginning and have to write papers about topics that didn't interest me.
Just wanted to get that off my shoulders. I need to forgive and forget now.
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LatinTea Wrote:I was helping out at church today in the kitchen. I happily told the ladies there about my experience with taking my first CLEP test yesterday. One of the ladies then said, "You know what my two sons say about going that route?" and she proceeded to give me a big 'thumbs down' gesture. Well, it happened two more times, I guess just so I would be sure to understand that testing was somehow, a lower form of education. I know she meant well (at least, I hope so), but it kinda took the wind out of my sails.
All I know is that after I studied for 2 weeks preparing for the U.S. History CLEP (without the help of a professor), I can truthfully say that the knowledge I gained is mine to keep. It meant something to me because I chose to study it and began at my skill level, only doing what I needed to add to my learning. I didn't have to learn it all over from the beginning and have to write papers about topics that didn't interest me.
Just wanted to get that off my shoulders. I need to forgive and forget now. Sorry about that experience. I haven't had anyone do that to me yet. I must be one of the only ones that it hasn't happened to yet.
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LatinTea Wrote:I was helping out at church today in the kitchen. I happily told the ladies there about my experience with taking my first CLEP test yesterday. One of the ladies then said, "You know what my two sons say about going that route?" and she proceeded to give me a big 'thumbs down' gesture. Well, it happened two more times, I guess just so I would be sure to understand that testing was somehow, a lower form of education. I know she meant well (at least, I hope so), but it kinda took the wind out of my sails.
All I know is that after I studied for 2 weeks preparing for the U.S. History CLEP (without the help of a professor), I can truthfully say that the knowledge I gained is mine to keep. It meant something to me because I chose to study it and began at my skill level, only doing what I needed to add to my learning. I didn't have to learn it all over from the beginning and have to write papers about topics that didn't interest me.
Just wanted to get that off my shoulders. I need to forgive and forget now. Better yet, hand her the official description of the exam. "Fine. You've got two weeks. Go find the learning resources on you own, learn everything on this outline without a professor to spoon-feed it to you, then take the CLEP and beat my score."
Or at the very least, just don't invite her to your graduation party.
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Now that was rude! Taking a clep is not that different from taking an online class because it is basically self taught. Yeah maybe you have some homework and papers in the online classes but how much does that add to your knowledge in the end. We can pass an exam just like the stiffs who sat through an entire semester of class. Shallow people have shallow thoughts.
But there are some people who although they are not familiar with this process are in awe of it. The mother of my daughter's friend found out I took and passed the Astronomy exam and for 2 months told everyone who would listen that I was a genius!! Haha now that is a smart woman.
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Oh well, at the end of the day you'll have gotten your fully-accredited degree much faster and much cheaper than this lady's sons probably did. Getting the degree is what counts. The end. hilarious
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Recently while I was working at my local school teaching a student no one else wanted any part of. We were sitting in the teachers lounge one lunch time and the conversation turned to college. A teacher I have known for more then 20 years starts saying "Well the next thing you know they will be doing online courses" I just smiled, then someone else said something agreeing with her. I let them go for a little while then I said. I just received my AA in June and I am 3/4 done with my BA and I haven't stepped foot in a college classroom in 20 years.hilarious
The next thing you know they are back pedalling and trying to say well, it depends on what the class is in and how much work is required and who knows who is taking the test blah blah blah. I just smiled and said "It is harder to prove who you are to take a proctored test or CLEP exam then it is too get credit in some Universities"
When the conversation was over Ms. B & M lover looked like the ignorant one.
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Now for the flip side...I work with a lady who finished her PhD in Physics. She keeps asking me why I don't just attend the B&B classes, as they are less work on my part -- whether I'm preparing to test out or taking an online course, it is the same mantra
I guess those in the know...know.
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06-25-2009, 09:37 PM
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LatinTea Wrote:I was helping out at church today in the kitchen. I happily told the ladies there about my experience with taking my first CLEP test yesterday. One of the ladies then said, "You know what my two sons say about going that route?" and she proceeded to give me a big 'thumbs down' gesture. Well, it happened two more times, I guess just so I would be sure to understand that testing was somehow, a lower form of education. I know she meant well (at least, I hope so), but it kinda took the wind out of my sails.
All I know is that after I studied for 2 weeks preparing for the U.S. History CLEP (without the help of a professor), I can truthfully say that the knowledge I gained is mine to keep. It meant something to me because I chose to study it and began at my skill level, only doing what I needed to add to my learning. I didn't have to learn it all over from the beginning and have to write papers about topics that didn't interest me.
Just wanted to get that off my shoulders. I need to forgive and forget now. Keep your head up!
So, I guess this authority figure sits around the house talking with her sons about how stupid other people are. Anyone who discourages someone from learning is lacking education themselves. Why would a grown woman have to even mention what her sons think about your method of learning?
I am not sure that you need to forgive people like this. You just blast right past them and keep going. Forgiving them means that they are in your mind longer than they need to be, making you feel bad about yourself. I would have turned it right back her and played out the following dialog:
You: "So, where did you go to school?",
Her: (answer)
You: "It's a good thing that there are options these days that allow people with complicated situations to attend college, isn't it?"
Her: "Oh, I'm sorry....",
You: "Well, I feel really good about the amount of progress I have been able to make and my (sons,parents,whatever) are really proud of me."
You would be doing her a favor by giving her some training in the consideration of others. People like this don't intend you harm you, but are unaware of their impact. The best thing that you can do is point it out to them in a friendly way while standing your ground.
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malcs Wrote:Keep your head up!
So, I guess this authority figure sits around the house talking with her sons about how stupid other people are. Anyone who discourages someone from learning is lacking education themselves. Why would a grown woman have to even mention what her sons think about your method of learning?
I am not sure that you need to forgive people like this. You just blast right past them and keep going. Forgiving them means that they are in your mind longer than they need to be, making you feel bad about yourself. I would have turned it right back her and played out the following dialog:
You: "So, where did you go to school?",
Her: (answer)
You: "It's a good thing that there are options these days that allow people with complicated situations to attend college, isn't it?"
Her: "Oh, I'm sorry....",
You: "Well, I feel really good about the amount of progress I have been able to make and my (sons,parents,whatever) are really proud of me."
You would be doing her a favor by giving her some training in the consideration of others. People like this don't intend you harm you, but are unaware of their impact. The best thing that you can do is point it out to them in a friendly way while standing your ground. Wow! Good Advice on how to, gently, turn the tables!
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