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Will TESU take CIT modules for their CS program?
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I have some 30 odd Computer Information Technology (CIT) modules from Northern Arizona University. I was wondering if anyone has experience or knows if TESU will take CIT modules as Computer Science mods for their BA in CS program

Stuff that I've done have modules and titles that sound very computer sciencey ~ 

CIT 250 Design and Analysis of Data Structures
CIT 321 Fundamentals of Hardware and Software Systems
CIT 221 Programming Fundamentals

Undecided
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(01-20-2019, 06:57 PM)nyvrem Wrote: I have some 30 odd Computer Information Technology (CIT) modules from Northern Arizona University. I was wondering if anyone has experience or knows if TESU will take CIT modules as Computer Science mods for their BA in CS program

Stuff that I've done have modules and titles that sound very computer sciencey ~ 

CIT 250 Design and Analysis of Data Structures
CIT 321 Fundamentals of Hardware and Software Systems
CIT 221 Programming Fundamentals

Undecided

The only way to know how those courses would be evaluated at TESU would be to submit your transcripts and see what happens.

I don't know what is in the syllabus as learning outcomes for those 3 courses, but based on the material I'd expect to see, based on those titles, I'd imagine that CIT 250 would evaluate as data structures, CIT 321 might come in as Systems Analysis (or may come in as an X99 Special Topics in Computer Science type of course) and CIT 221 would probably come in as Introduction to Programming.

If you're shooting for a CS degree, data structures and intro to programming are required courses, and Systems Analysis is a CS elective, so it sounds like you'd be well on your way to filling the AOS... assuming my guesses end up correct.
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I agree with Merlin - the only way to know is to find out. TESU normally does take courses from RA schools though, so I'm pretty sure they'd take these as Merlin guessed. Those would be my guesses too.

I'm going to guess that they'll take ALL of the courses you took, but since you didn't say what they all were, I can't tell you what the remaining courses would come in as.

Dumb question - why aren't you continuing with NAU?
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(01-20-2019, 07:46 PM)dfrecore Wrote: I agree with Merlin - the only way to know is to find out.  TESU normally does take courses from RA schools though, so I'm pretty sure they'd take these as Merlin guessed.  Those would be my guesses too.

I'm going to guess that they'll take ALL of the courses you took, but since you didn't say what they all were, I can't tell you what the remaining courses would come in as.

Dumb question - why aren't you continuing with NAU?

when NAU first came out their competency base program, I signed up for their $2500/6 months BA/BS CIT program. I managed to complete 30 credits in 5 mths then life happened. Now I'm just looking at all my credits from everywhere else and I have 110+ credits, including 30 from NAU in CIT. 

So I'm looking to see how close am I towards a BA in CS from TESU, eg - how many mods of CS do I need to finish the program. I'm quite confident I've fulfilled all the other requirements from TESU for a degree. (Gen Ed etc etc)

Just hoping some CS classes from Saylor/SL/SDC will do the trick and i'll be done. 

I can post all my credits when I get back home ~
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(01-20-2019, 08:42 PM)nyvrem Wrote:
(01-20-2019, 07:46 PM)dfrecore Wrote: I agree with Merlin - the only way to know is to find out.  TESU normally does take courses from RA schools though, so I'm pretty sure they'd take these as Merlin guessed.  Those would be my guesses too.

I'm going to guess that they'll take ALL of the courses you took, but since you didn't say what they all were, I can't tell you what the remaining courses would come in as.

Dumb question - why aren't you continuing with NAU?

when NAU first came out their competency base program, I signed up for their $2500/6 months BA/BS CIT program. I managed to complete 30 credits in 5 mths then life happened. Now I'm just looking at all my credits from everywhere else and I have 110+ credits, including 30 from NAU in CIT. 

So I'm looking to see how close am I towards a BA in CS from TESU, eg - how many mods of CS do I need to finish the program. I'm quite confident I've fulfilled all the other requirements from TESU for a degree. (Gen Ed etc etc)

Just hoping some CS classes from Saylor/SL/SDC will do the trick and i'll be done. 

I can post all my credits when I get back home ~

It will come down to what credits you have completed and how closely they match to the CS degree program at TESU. If you're literally a few courses away and none of them are the hard-to-find courses like data structures (which it looks like you may have already), then yeah you can probably take a few courses from SDC, register for and take the TESU cornerstone and capstone and be done in 6 months or less. The long pole with TESU is taking the capstone, which has to be registered for in advance and takes at least 3 months to complete. Plus you also have to apply for graduation and pay the fees at least 3 months in advance of your chosen graduation date.

With 110+ credits, if you're looking to complete the degree quick, you may be better off finishing up at NAU. Alternatively, WGU may be better if you're interested in a CS-specific degree. I don't know how NAU is with accepting ACE credit, but WGU accepts nearly everything that TESU does. Depending on how close you are, you can transfer up to 75% of the degree in and then burn through the last 30 credits in a few months or less.

My gut says you'd complete your degree faster (and probably more cheaply) via NAU or WGU than TESU. But we'll need to see the credits first to be sure.
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(01-20-2019, 11:02 PM)Merlin Wrote: It will come down to what credits you have completed and how closely they match to the CS degree program at TESU. If you're literally a few courses away and none of them are the hard-to-find courses like data structures (which it looks like you may have already), then yeah you can probably take a few courses from SDC, register for and take the TESU cornerstone and capstone and be done in 6 months or less. The long pole with TESU is taking the capstone, which has to be registered for in advance and takes at least 3 months to complete. Plus you also have to apply for graduation and pay the fees at least 3 months in advance of your chosen graduation date.

With 110+ credits, if you're looking to complete the degree quick, you may be better off finishing up at NAU. Alternatively, WGU may be better if you're interested in a CS-specific degree. I don't know how NAU is with accepting ACE credit, but WGU accepts nearly everything that TESU does. Depending on how close you are, you can transfer up to 75% of the degree in and then burn through the last 30 credits in a few months or less.

My gut says you'd complete your degree faster (and probably more cheaply) via NAU or WGU than TESU. But we'll need to see the credits first to be sure.

I agree.  I think it's better to look forward than backwards in this instance.  Things you should probably do:
1) post your credits here, broken down by where you took them, to see how they'll fit at TESU and WGU
2) contact NAU and ask if they will take your alternative credits
3) determine how much it will cost and how quickly you can complete a degree at all 3 schools.  There will probably be one that stands out as a clear winner.

You might actually want to spend the money to apply to TESU and WGU, to see what you need to complete in order to get a very clear picture.  Guessing is all well and good, up to a point - and in your case, that point is whether they'll take your NAU credits.
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finishing at NAU would be ideal, except they require me to finish 60 credits with them.

that means I need to complete another 30 credits, and there's no guarantee I'll be able to finish all of them within that given 6 month time line.

and their cost went up abit, it's $3k now for 6 months.
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(01-21-2019, 03:11 AM)nyvrem Wrote: finishing at NAU would be ideal, except they require me to finish 60 credits with them.

that means I need to complete another 30 credits, and there's no guarantee I'll be able to finish all of them within that given 6 month time line.

and their cost went up abit, it's $3k now for 6 months.

$3k is still cheaper than the alternatives, and you're looking at 3-6 months either way.

At TESU, assuming you're transferring in 116 credits, you're looking at $300 for the cornerstone, $1098 for the capstone, $2200 for the residency waiver, and $332 for the graduation fee or $3,930. And you'll probably still be looking at 6 months before you can graduate. If you don't complete the cornerstone before July 1st, you can change that $300 to $1098 ($798 more) and add a second 3-month course. This all assumes you come in with a Study.com affiliate discount. So you'll need to take at least two courses there (which you may have already done) and transfer them to TESU before they will honor the discounts.

At WGU, you'll be looking at taking 30 credits, but you'll probably burn through those quickly. If you are well-versed in the material, or if you have to repeat some GenEd courses, each of those shouldn't take more than a day or two to finish so they'll go by quickly. Heck, some people have completed their entire bachelor's degree in less than 6 months. At WGU you're looking at $3520 all-in, assuming you finish in a single 6-month term. I suspect you can be done there in 3-months with your new diploma in hand.

At NAU, you're looking at $3000, but like with WGU you'll probably end up having to repeat courses you took via alt. ed means. I don't know how the NAU competency system works, but if its like WGU, you should be able to complete courses as fast or faster there than you could via CLEP, Study.com, or Straighterline.
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Here's the list of modules I've completed.

1xx Eng I (3)
1xx Eng II (3)
1xx Calculus I (4)
1xx Calculus II (4)
1xx Environmental Science (3)
1xx Children's Lit (3)
1xx Intro to Business (3)
1xx Intro to Psychology (3)
1xx Finite Math (3)
1xx Intro to Geology + Lab (4)
1xx Global History (3)
1xx Introduction to Object Oriented Software Development (3)(CS prefix)
1xx Foundations of Computer Information Technology (3)(CIT prefix)
1xx Computer Information Technology I (3)(CIT prefix)
1xx Computer Information Technology II (3)(CIT prefix)
1xx .Net I (3)(CS prefix)

2xx .Net II (3)(CS prefix)
2xx Intro to Philosophy (3)
2xx Discrete math (3)
2xx Ethics (3)
2xx Chemistry + Lab (4)
2xx Statistics (3)
2xx Research Methods in Psychology (3)
2xx Intro to Programming for the Web (3)(CIT prefix)
2xx Design and Analysis of Data Structures (3)(CIT prefix)
2xx Programming Fundamentals (3)(CIT prefix)
2xx Programming w/ Java (3)(CS prefix)

3xx Networking (3)(CS prefix)
3xx Analysis, Design and Modelling of Databases (3)(CIT prefix)
3xx Fundamentals of Hardware and Software Operating Systems (3)(CIT prefix)
3xx Management and Information Technology (3)(CIT prefix)
3xx Fundamentals of IT and Project Management (3)(CIT prefix)
3xx American Government (3) (Poly Sci prefix)
3xx Educational Psychology (3) (Psy prefix)
3xx Women and Crime (3) (Sociology prefix)
3xx Film and society (3) (Sociology prefix)

Total 112 credit hours done, but only 15 credits that have a CS prefix in their course code.

Besides that, stuff that I am missing that should complete the whole degree.

- a Computer Architecture course for the required core. (I'm looking at either FHSU or CMU) (3 credits)
- a Oral communications module (hoping to do this via SL) (3 credits)
- remaining credits to be filled with a CS elective/s (I could do the C++ (4 credits) from SL)
- the capstone from TESU ?

that should make 125 credits in total and fulfil the BA in Computer Science program, and also the AAS degree in Applied Computer Studies?

Only if TESU took in the CIT mods as CS mods. Else i'll have to take more CS mods from SDC or Saylor.
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