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Why do people drop out?
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or fail to enroll?
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2022...ont-enroll
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The study found that. (Bold are quotes from the article)

  1. "38 percent of students didn’t enroll because of fears about the cost of college and amassing debt"

    You can get rid of some costs by doing AP/CLEPS in high school or doing the college hack method we do.


  2. "27 percent felt college would be “too stressful” or “too much pressure"

    It would be stressful if you had to work 30 hours a week while going to school just to get by because all you would be doing is working and going to school with not much time for a social life. It also depends on the school and degree program you choose. If you use the right techniques, getting straight A's doesn't have to be stressful. 


  3. "26 percent believed it was more important to work and earn money"

    College should pay off over a lifetime though I like to look at where you will be in 10-15yrs. You are gambling that you will have a positive return on investment (ROI) by investing your time and money. People who spend 100k and 7 years getting an underwater basketweaving degree will have a lower average return than people who spend less than 20k doing a degree in 3 years or by doing our hack method getting a degree in 6-12 months for around 5k. 

  4. "25 percent felt uncertainty about their career trajectories and what they wanted to study"

    First, you need to find what you are good at and what the market needs. Narrow down your degree path to 3 choices. A lot of people end up changing careers, so your choice doesn't have to be perfect. 
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Also, you simply figure out university is not what it is ...
You come to university to study but you find lots of partying kids
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(10-07-2022, 09:16 AM)LevelUP Wrote: The study found that. (Bold are quotes from the article)

  1. "38 percent of students didn’t enroll because of fears about the cost of college and amassing debt"

    You can get rid of some costs by doing AP/CLEPS in high school or doing the college hack method we do.

    This is not a good option for MANY people - schools that don't offer AP classes, students w/o the support to take them, anyone who is not a great test-taker, etc.

  2. "27 percent felt college would be “too stressful” or “too much pressure"

    It would be stressful if you had to work 30 hours a week while going to school just to get by because all you would be doing is working and going to school with not much time for a social life. It also depends on the school and degree program you choose. If you use the right techniques, getting straight A's doesn't have to be stressful.
     I worked PT and then FT as an older (early 20's) college student, got good grades, and had PLENTY of time for a social life (a little too much time looking back on it).  My kid is a FT worker and FT student and has a nice life going.  It's also been proven that students who work 20-30 hours a week do BETTER than students who don't work at all, so I think your arguments are bogus here.
  3. "26 percent believed it was more important to work and earn money"

    College should pay off over a lifetime though I like to look at where you will be in 10-15yrs. You are gambling that you will have a positive return on investment (ROI) by investing your time and money. People who spend 100k and 7 years getting an underwater basketweaving degree will have a lower average return than people who spend less than 20k doing a degree in 3 years or by doing our hack method getting a degree in 6-12 months for around 5k. 

    Thinking it's more important to work and earn money does not say that someone doesn't think schooling is useless, but rather that it's not important to them right now.  
  1. "25 percent felt uncertainty about their career trajectories and what they wanted to study"

    First, you need to find what you are good at and what the market needs. Narrow down your degree path to 3 choices. A lot of people end up changing careers, so your choice doesn't have to be perfect. 
    I 100% agree that if you don't know what you want to do or what you want to study, then by all means, go out in the world and figure it out.  Going to college when you don't see the point, is a sure way to waste time and money...and then have to spend MORE time and money later when you finally do figure it out.  I'm not sure we are all in such a rush to get a college degree right out of high school, and we can see that this is a failing strategy for the majority of people.  
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Basically, I think it's like a mix bowl of nuts, you'll get so many different types of nuts within that package, they need to find their "balance in life" at that time... Everyone is different, there are so many reasons people will drop out, not enroll, fail classes, etc, and then there are people who graduate and make a good amount but find it's not right for them like this person: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...tal-health
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For me, at the time of my CC attempts, I just had zero support, not only not financially but just assistance in general, I realize I was able to get that support once the internet had places like these where we could ask questions. I didn't even know I could take out a school loan.
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I agree with that, without a support system at home, school, work or wherever, it's going to be harder to complete that educational journey.

"Education is generally not a "single person journey", it's more of a family thing as the support you get is mainly from your family members and tight nit support team of academic advisors, teachers, etc"
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(10-08-2022, 11:50 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: I agree with that, without a support system at home, school, work or wherever, it's going to be harder to complete that educational journey.  

"Education is generally not a "single person journey", it's more of a family thing as the support you get is mainly from your family members and tight nit support team of academic advisors, teachers, etc"

When I went back to college in my early 20's, I didn't need a support system in any way; I went to the local CC, went to the admissions office, pulled out the form for the business AA, walked over and signed up for classes, and started the journey.  It was simple and straightforward.  When I started at a company that had tuition reimbursement, I signed up at a different school to start on those UL courses I needed, and did a Cert in Management (15cr that was the first step in the BSBA program).

Throughout all of it, I did not need any support whatsoever.  I just did it.

Then, when I finally finished, I didn't need much support either; it was just a matter of saving up to take the final CLEP/DSST tests I needed, a few other courses here and there, and then enrolled and finished at TESU.  I was a SAHM, and did schoolwork during the day with my kids (homeschooled at the time).

My college student now works full time and goes to college online; I just advise her (if she didn't have me, she'd use her school advisor).  The support we provide is very minimal (she lives at home but pays all her own bills).
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People drop out of study for many reasons. Some may find the workload too demanding or the material too difficult. Others may simply lose interest in the subject matter. Whatever the reason, dropping out of study can have negative consequences. For one, it can lead to a loss of confidence and a feeling of failure. Additionally, it can make it difficult to re-enter the academic world at a later date. Finally, dropped students may miss out on important opportunities to network and build relationships with their peers. While there are many reasons why people drop out of study, the decision is usually not made lightly. Those who do decide to leave usually do so with a heavy heart and a sense of regret.
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