Who Is Studying Online (and Where)

[sanantone]

UoP also fails adults. They're just good at advertising and deceptive admissions practices. Their numbers are slipping for a reason. They used to have nearly 500k students.

UoP has one of the worst graduation rates in the country. They're actually doing adults a disservice.

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/...retention/

[dfrecore]

UoP also fails adults. They're just good at advertising and deceptive admissions practices. Their numbers are slipping for a reason. They used to have nearly 500k students.

UoP has one of the worst graduation rates in the country. They're actually doing adults a disservice.

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/...retention/

I agree with this, I just think they advertise to them better, and then actually set it up for them to be able to take classes.  You won't find that at the local CC or university.

[Life Long Learning]

UoP also fails adults. They're just good at advertising and deceptive admissions practices. Their numbers are slipping for a reason. They used to have nearly 500k students.

UoP has one of the worst graduation rates in the country. They're actually doing adults a disservice.

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/...retention/

The college website https://www.collegefactual.com feels slimy to me.

The https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/?...esc&page=2 
website says they have a 17% graduation rate which is sad.  The National average is about 42% per this website.

I never attended UoP so I really know nothing of them.

[sanantone]

UoP also fails adults. They're just good at advertising and deceptive admissions practices. Their numbers are slipping for a reason. They used to have nearly 500k students.

UoP has one of the worst graduation rates in the country. They're actually doing adults a disservice.

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/...retention/

The college website https://www.collegefactual.com feels slimy to me.

The https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/?...esc&page=2 
website says they have a 17% graduation rate which is sad.  The National average is about 42% per this website.

I never attended UoP so I really know nothing of them.

One would be better off flunking out of a community college. There would be less debt.

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UoP also fails adults. They're just good at advertising and deceptive admissions practices. Their numbers are slipping for a reason. They used to have nearly 500k students.

UoP has one of the worst graduation rates in the country. They're actually doing adults a disservice.

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/...retention/

I agree with this, I just think they advertise to them better, and then actually set it up for them to be able to take classes.  You won't find that at the local CC or university.

People need to learn how to use Google. I think they're starting to, which is why online programs at non-profits are growing in popularity. There was an excuse 15 years ago when online programs were rarer, but not anymore.

Cheap, public schools usually don't have huge advertising budgets. ASU costs an arm and a leg for out-of-state students, so they have the money to advertise. They've also been smart about making employer partnerships. If you want to find cheap schools, you have to dig.

[RANSOMSOUL]

In addition to company deals (which is big), several leadership positions are UOP graduates from those companies and it just becomes a natural selection for someone looking to move up in the company. I have a colleague who has a C-level position with Kaiser and when asking why she chose to get her MBA from UOP, she replied with "Multiple colleagues in leadership positions went there and encouraged me to as well to check the necessary MBA box".

[sanantone]

In addition to company deals (which is big), several leadership positions are UOP graduates from those companies and it just becomes a natural selection for someone looking to move up in the company. I have a colleague who has a C-level position with Kaiser and when asking why she chose to get her MBA from UOP, she replied with "Multiple colleagues in leadership positions went there and encouraged me to as well to check the necessary MBA box".

Meh. I'd rather choose a local school if possible. It might vary by region, but while I've come across a few UoP, APUS, and Excelsior degrees in leadership, I've seen a lot more from local universities. In Central Texas, a lot of criminal justice professionals have gone to Texas State. In other agencies, I see UT, Texas State, and St. Edward's.

[cookderosa]

While it would be awesome to see data from 2017, you have to give researchers time to collect and publish it. Here is a "bigger picture" that gives a few more categories. It's from 2014. https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=80

[RANSOMSOUL]

Agree! By the numbers, I come across way more local or quality name brand schools than UOP. Just had a classic personal example. It was always interesting to see the occasional UOP diplomas on the wall when I use to make the rounds in hospitals. It was more common in Materials & OR Directors - these were also more common spots for me to hang with. I remember walking out thinking that I would most likely not choose to hang a UOP degree on the wall. At the time, I did not even have a degree so pretty funny to carry that elitist position

[cookderosa]

https://ccrc.tc.columbia.edu/Community-C...-FAQs.html

Here's something interesting:
Q) What do we know about community college student performance in fully online courses?
A)A CCRC study of Washington State community and technical college students found that completion rates in online courses were 5.5 percentage points lower overall than those in face-to-face courses. Because online courses were more popular among better prepared students, the researchers also compared course completion rates among only those students who had ever enrolled in an online course. Among those students, the completion rate for all online courses was 8.2 percentage points lower than the completion rate for face-to-face courses; completion rates for online English and math courses were lower by 12.8 percent and 9.8 percent, respectively. Further, students who took higher proportions of online courses were slightly less likely to attain a degree or transfer to a four-year college (Jaggars, Edgecombe, & Stacey, 2013; Xu & Jaggars, 2011).

A CCRC study of Virginia Community College System students found that among all courses taken by all students, the online completion rate was 12.7 percentage points lower than the face-to-face completion rate. Among students who had taken at least one online course, online completion rates were 14.7 percentage points lower for all courses, 16.1 percentage points lower for English courses, and 18.7 percentage points lower for math courses. Among this subset of students, the completion rate for online developmental English was 22.3 percentage points lower, and the completion rate for online developmental math was 22.1 percentage points lower (Jaggars, Edgecombe, & Stacey, 2013; Xu & Jaggars, 2010).

[sanantone]

I knew that younger students tend to do more poorly in online courses. They require more hand-holding.