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Which ONLINE college can I complete credits to obtain Bachelors fastest?
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(08-14-2022, 07:39 AM)carrythenothing Wrote: Depending on the state, you'll need a certain number of supervised clinical hours after graduating with your MSW to become an LCSW/LICSW.

Social work regulations and licensure/registration requirements: https://www.aswb.org/regulation/laws-and...-database/

I think all, or almost all 50 states now require 3,000 hours post-graduation supervised practice. CSWE, ASWB, and NASW have been working hard to get consistency across all states (and the provinces of Canada) and are very close to having uniformity.  The ASWB exam is now the official social work exam used in all 50 states, and I am pretty certain that the last laggard states that required less than 3000 hours have now increased their requirement for consistency.

There are other requirements that vary by state, so it is always wise to check individual state requirements.  However, pretty much all of that happens *after* you've earned the MSW.


(08-14-2022, 07:39 AM)bjcheung77 wrote Wrote: In addition to the above, I would recommend you take a look at a few MSW programs and write down the majority of their requirements. Your main goal is to complete the required Bachelors for entry, it doesn't have to be a BSW if you want a quicker way to get the check the box Bachelors. WNMU is a good school, there is another one I would recommend is Eastern University for about the same price range and also completely online.

If you want requirements that will get you into pretty much *any* MSW program, it's
- A biology course
- A statistics course
- A research methods course

However, many of the MSW programs require none of those. (For example, Boise and WNMU do not.) Even if the school you attend doesn't require it, I do recommend taking a stats and research methods course, because those will help you get through the research methods coursework required in the MSW.  The Excelsior Research Methods exam was a great way to do that; it's a shame they've discontinued that.  The Study.com Research Methods course will prepare you well (as will just about any research methods course.)  Stats for the Social Sciences that you can take almost anywhere will be helpful.

Outside of those prereqs, basically all that's required is a bachelors degree.  At WNMU, there are a couple of folks with business, computer, and other decidedly non-liberal arts undergrad degrees, but officially, CSWE recommends that students get a broad range of coursework in the liberal arts if they are not seeking a BSW.

Schools that are worth looking at (in my opinion) include Boise State, Louisiana State U,  and WNMU.  All are in the 35K range for the 2 year program (total) last I checked.  WNMU can be as cheap as 18K if you are willing to take the program over 3 years instead of 2.

I know a couple of folks at UMass Global who have been pretty unhappy there.  It's also a school with a prefab curriculum developed by UMass's for-profit partner that does all the course development and marketing, which means you have professors teaching courses they had no input in developing... which can make them less interested/dedicated to the coursework.  Just one other piece to consider.
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(08-15-2022, 02:13 AM)studyingfortests Wrote: If you want requirements that will get you into pretty much *any* MSW program, it's
- A biology course
- A statistics course
- A research methods course

However, many of the MSW programs require none of those. (For example, Boise and WNMU do not.)  Even if the school you attend doesn't require it, I do recommend taking a stats and research methods course, because those will help you get through the research methods coursework required in the MSW. 

For Biology, there is Biology 101L from Study.com and BIO-210 from Olivet Nazarene https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Ol...University The SDC course meets UMPI's degree requirements. The ONU course is a graded course from an actual university that DOES NOT meet UMPI's degree requirements. But, it does have a grade and grad schools might like that. These shouldn't overlap at UMPI, but I don't know for sure.

ONU also has Stats, if you need graded Stats. Again, a grad school might prefer graded Stats. An easier source for Statistics would be Sophia, but that might not prepare you for the future coursework. More thorough than either Sophia or ONU would be Statistics for the Behavioral Sciences from ALEKS https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/ALEKS It's not quite as cheap as Sophia, but it could be as cheap as $20 if you're able to finish within a month or $50 if it takes you 2-3 months: https://www.aleks.com/buy_aleks_now I have no idea what UMPI would bring the ALEKS course in as. It might or might not be the same as the ONU course. Whether or not you use ALEKS for credit, I strongly recommend using it to gain a deeper understanding of Statistics.

For Research Methods, I don't think that there is any cheap graded/RA credit now that the UExcel is gone. SDC would be the best option (for now) for this.
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Forgot, here's the link to the program for Eastern University, one reason I looked at them was the tuition, another was the entry requirements.
Again... In short, Bachelors> MSW> License requirements
Link: https://www.eastern.edu/academics/gradua...msw-online

Cost for 2022-2023:
$14,400 in tuition and fees for students admitted as Advanced Standing with a BSW from an accredited school conferred within the last 5 years.
$27,360 in tuition and fees for Non-Advanced Standing students.
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(08-13-2022, 12:22 PM)dfrecore Wrote: A BSW is hard to get, the programs are generally not flexible.  And they require a "clinical" or hands-on thing.  So the any-bachelor's-to-MSW program is much better than BSW-to-MAinPsych program.  Plus I don't think a MA in Psych gets you a LCSW.  You MUST get a MSW to get that licensure/certification.

I thought this was discussed previously, you do not need any particular degree to get into a MSW program - so you're better off getting a fast, cheap BA/BS in just about anything, and then getting into a 2yr FT or 3yr PT MSW program.

My advice, because I don't think MSW programs are competitive: UMPI's BLS/Management or BA in CJ degree if you want to do a CBE program; or EU's BSL degree if you want to stick to a non-CBE program.

You should also list all of your credits: course #, full course name, number of credits, and grade  We can then tell you what might be the best option based on your exact information.


Thank you for the information. Here is a list of my credits:

ENG 101 – Composition I
ENG 102 – Writing Thru Lit
HUC 106 – Public Speaking
SSS 100 – Intro To Sociology
SYF 101 – FYS for Psychology
MAT 106 – Mathematics of Medical Dosages
SCV 101 – Intro to Veterinary Technology
SCD 200 – Intro to Nutrition
SSN 187 – Urban Sociology
MAT 107 – Math in Modern World
SCH 150 – Drugs & Behavior
SSY 101 – General Psych
SSY 240 – Developmental Psych I
SSH 101 – Themes American History I
SSY 230 – Abnormal Psychology
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I think you could also opt for EC or TESU's BS/BA in Psych degrees. Both can be done via alt-credit for maybe $5-$7k.

But if you really want to save money, your best option is to do UMPI. Maybe the CJ degree if you wanted to get towards Human Services.
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What online college offers fastest way to complete credits (fastrack/self paced/shorter terms) options to obtain Bachelors? 
Your Location: NYC, NY
Your Age: 27
What kind of degree do you want?: psychology/human services centered to ultimately go on for lmsw or lcsw

Current Regional Accredited Credits: 44 
credits from CUNY (Laguardia CC)

ENG 101 – Composition I
ENG 102 – Writing Thru Lit
HUC 106 – Public Speaking
SSS 100 – Intro To Sociology
SYF 101 – FYS for Psychology
MAT 106 – Mathematics of Medical Dosages
SCV 101 – Intro to Veterinary Technology
SCD 200 – Intro to Nutrition
SSN 187 – Urban Sociology
MAT 107 – Math in Modern World
SCH 150 – Drugs & Behavior
SSY 101 – General Psych
SSY 240 – Developmental Psych I
SSH 101 – Themes American History I
SSY 230 – Abnormal Psychology

Current ACE, CLEP, or NCCRS Credits: none


Any certifications or military experience? No military experience. 
No real certifications worth mentioning. (CPR, CPI, Trained Overdose Responder & Trainer, CPI, Child Mandated Reporter, F-80)


Work Experience: Human Services professional, experienced working with vulnerable populations: chronically homeless and individuals with mental illness & substance abuse. I worked mainly as a residential aide, harm reduction specialist, and am currently an Operations Manager at homeless shelters. 


Goal: To obtain a BSW as quickly as possible so I can enroll in a Masters degree program. 
My ultimately goal is to become a LCSW. 

Time Constraints: I currently work full time during the day as an Operations Manager at a shelter, and often do additional shifts.
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@OP, I merged the two threads, it's essentially the same info/questions: Bachelors > MSW > Licensure
Each person has their own scenario/situation or something, it all depends on you to complete the requirements of the degree. You may want to fill in the last post addendum here to give us more details, so we can provide appropriate advice: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...Area-works

Essentially, without more details from you, it's hard to decipher what Bachelors would be better for you as you're working full time.  I am hard pressed to recommend UMPI, I suggest Excelsior for max transfer of alternative credits and to take the 7 credits for residency requirements.  You must make sure to take prerequisite courses required for your Masters, you need to find a few of your choice so you know the requirements and take them.
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http://www.op.nysed.gov/prof/sw/lcsw.htm

To be licensed as a licensed clinical social worker (LCSW) in New York State you must:

* be of good moral character;
* be at least 21 years of age;
* have an education that includes a masters degree in social work (M.S.W.) with at least 12 semester hours of clinical coursework acceptable to the Department;
* have at least 3 years of post M.S.W. supervised experience in diagnosis, psychotherapy and assessment-based treatment planning acceptable to the Department;
* meet clinical examination requirements; and
* complete coursework or training in the identification and reporting of child abuse offered by a New York State approved provider.

Note: In most cases you must be licensed and currently registered to practice as a Licensed Master Social Worker (LMSW) in New York to complete the supervised experience for licensure as an LCSW.

http://www.op.nysed.gov/prof/sw/lmsw.htm

To be licensed as a licensed master social worker (LMSW) in New York State you must:

* be of good moral character as determined by the Department;
* be at least 21 years of age;
* meet education requirements;
* meet examination requirements; and
* complete coursework or training in the identification and reporting of child abuse offered by a New York State approved provider.

Education Requirements

To meet the professional education requirement for licensure as an LMSW, you must present satisfactory evidence of having received a masters degree in social work (M.S.W.), or its equivalent, (e.g., a higher degree from a social work program that is registered by the Department as licensure-qualifying, accredited by the Council on Social Work Education (CSWE) or determined by the Department to be substantially equivalent to a registered program as defined in Sections 74.1 and 52.30 of the Commissioner's Regulations.)

For education to be determined substantially equivalent, the applicant must present satisfactory evidence of having received a masters degree, or its equivalent, in social work through completion of a satisfactory graduate program in social work which includes two years of full-time study (at least 60 semester hours, or the equivalent), of graduate study. No more than half of the total semester hours for the program may be advanced standing credit granted for social work study at the baccalaureate level.

Council on Social Work Education (CSWE) -- accredited masters programs in NY state
go hereand scroll down
https://www.cswe.org/accreditation/direc...m_state=NY

Council on Social Work Education (CSWE) -- accredited masters programs online
https://www.cswe.org/accreditation/direc...option=Yes

Council on Social Work Education (CSWE) -- accredited masters programs online in NY state
https://www.cswe.org/accreditation/direc...m_state=NY

Council on Social Work Education (CSWE) -- accredited bachelors programs online
https://www.cswe.org/accreditation/direc...option=Yes

admission requirements for one of the online masters programs accredited by the CSWE
University at Buffalo -- School of Social Work -- online Masters Social Work -- admission requirements
https://socialwork.buffalo.edu/admission...ation.html

Traditional MSW Prerequisites

* Bachelor's degree (or international equivalent) in any discipline from an accredited institution.
* Minimum of 24 credits of undergraduate liberal arts coursework. Of those 24 credits:
** 6 must be in the social or behavioral sciences (e.g., psychology, sociology, anthropology, political science).
** 6 must be in the arts or humanities (e.g., history, English, foreign languages, philosophy, ethnic/gender studies).
** 12 credits may be made up with any combination of the above or with courses from the natural sciences or mathematics.
* Minimum undergraduate GPA of 3.0 preferred.

https://socialwork.buffalo.edu/education...nline.html
Our online social work master's degree (MSW) program does not require any time on campus and is fully accredited by the Council on Social Work Education (CSWE).

the key admissions point being "Bachelor's degree (or international equivalent) in ANY discipline from an accredited institution."
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(08-16-2022, 10:17 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: @OP, I merged the two threads, it's essentially the same info/questions: Bachelors > MSW > Licensure
Each person has their own scenario/situation or something, it all depends on you to complete the requirements of the degree. You may want to fill in the last post addendum here to give us more details, so we can provide appropriate advice: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...Area-works

Essentially, without more details from you, it's hard to decipher what Bachelors would be better for you as you're working full time.  I am hard pressed to recommend UMPI, I suggest Excelsior for max transfer of alternative credits and to take the 7 credits for residency requirements.  You must make sure to take prerequisite courses required for your Masters, you need to find a few of your choice so you know the requirements and take them.

I can take credits through excelsior while enrolled in UMPI?

(08-16-2022, 07:59 PM)dfrecore Wrote: I think you could also opt for EC or TESU's BS/BA in Psych degrees.  Both can be done via alt-credit for maybe $5-$7k.

But if you really want to save money, your best option is to do UMPI.  Maybe the CJ degree if you wanted to get towards Human Services.
What is EC? I tried looking it up but see a few results that abbreviated as such.
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EC = Excelsior College, now Excelsior University or EU.
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