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WGU MSML and MBA
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Hi All,  Im planning to start grad school at WGU, but I know you can complete one program than the other by adding 6 more courses. Has anyone done this? Anyone recommend which order to do it in..MCML first then MBA or vice versa? I work in higher education so a Masters is a must for me to move up anywhere at our University or be considered for a pay bump.
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My father did this and completed the MSML and then followed with the MBA. He chose to do the MSML first with his key goal to complete the degree in one term, and he felt of the two, the MSML may allow for a faster process. After completing them, he shared that both felt similar in how they were weighted. Some courses he read that gave people difficulties overlapped in both degrees, so it was a wash if comparing the two.

If he had a doover, he said he would have just picked one degree and then spent energy on a doctorate vs. adding a second masters from WGU. Now he sees my journey with ENEB and then into a doctorate, and he's excited about yet another alternative route and savings.

Best of luck.
Virginia University of Lynchburg Doctorate of Healthcare Administration 
Universidad Isabel I / ENEB MBA & Master in Big Data and Business Intelligence, summa cum laude
University of Presque Isle BABA Management and Leadership, magna cum lauda
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(03-04-2023, 02:28 PM)KSoul Wrote: My father did this and completed the MSML and then followed with the MBA. He chose to do the MSML first with his key goal to complete the degree in one term, and he felt of the two, the MSML may allow for a faster process. After completing them, he shared that both felt similar in how they were weighted. Some courses he read that gave people difficulties overlapped in both degrees, so it was a wash if comparing the two.

If he had a doover, he said he would have just picked one degree and then spent energy on a doctorate vs. adding a second masters from WGU. Now he sees my journey with ENEB and then into a doctorate, and he's excited about yet another alternative route and savings.

Best of luck.
Thank you! What is eneb? I keep reading about it but am unsure when I looked it up it pulls up a school in Spain.
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Yes, the Spanish one:

https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...ter-Thread
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Spend your time on the master thread link shared to understand what ENEB is and isn't and to see if they could be valuable in your degree aspirations. The first half of the thread has a lot of doubters on the offering, and the second half has a steady flow of those that have used the degrees once validated by a third party as an RA US Master equivalent, entry into doctorate programs, master-level certificates, bachelors credits at Thomas Edison & Excelsior University. Recently, someone mentioned trying to bring the credits into UMPI so they may be included and an option if approved.

The bonus is the thread has a nice balance of opinions. The last 20 pages have the most significant updates and use cases for ENEB degrees.
Virginia University of Lynchburg Doctorate of Healthcare Administration 
Universidad Isabel I / ENEB MBA & Master in Big Data and Business Intelligence, summa cum laude
University of Presque Isle BABA Management and Leadership, magna cum lauda
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Basically, It really depends on the student and their needs/wants... Some people like me even go beyond that as we have difficulties with learning and retaining information, I took the 3 ENEB options as an MBA preview/review of my BSBA before I started my Walden MBA. I'm pausing/stalling as there is something I'm trying to work out with Walden (my goal is to use the 3 ENEB to get into their PhD Completion program as entry requirements, not transfer the to the MBA) and also retain the 50% off tuition discounts after they were acquired or purchased recently, like last year, they've still not decided what to do with my request...
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(03-04-2023, 11:54 AM)Sb2013 Wrote: Hi All,  Im planning to start grad school at WGU, but I know you can complete one program than the other by adding 6 more courses. Has anyone done this? Anyone recommend which order to do it in..MCML first then MBA or vice versa? I work in higher education so a Masters is a must for me to move up anywhere at our University or be considered for a pay bump.

Considering the field you work in, I would recommend that you stick with a US RA school and pass on the ENEB as an option (it's still muddy water at best). Either WGU degree will always get you more respect than a degree that was offered on Groupon. I certainly hope no rational person here would argue that simple point; no matter what value it may offer a limited few. As far as the MSLM vs MBA - if an MBA will serve you better, then go direct for it. If it doesn't matter what the master is in then go with the one that offers the coursework that interests you more, and you feel can be expedited for a single term finish. Historically here more have reported completing the MSLM in a single term than the MBA, but being competency-based your professional background could make either equal.  I don't see how getting both adds anything in the way if ROI, as they are too closely aligned in AOS.
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(03-05-2023, 02:15 PM)allvia Wrote:
(03-04-2023, 11:54 AM)Sb2013 Wrote: Hi All,  Im planning to start grad school at WGU, but I know you can complete one program than the other by adding 6 more courses. Has anyone done this? Anyone recommend which order to do it in..MCML first then MBA or vice versa? I work in higher education so a Masters is a must for me to move up anywhere at our University or be considered for a pay bump.

Considering the field you work in, I would recommend that you stick with a US RA school and pass on the ENEB as an option (it's still muddy water at best). Either WGU degree will always get you more respect than a degree that was offered on Groupon. I certainly hope no rational person here would argue that simple point; no matter what value it may offer a limited few. As far as the MSLM vs MBA - if an MBA will serve you better, then go direct for it. If it doesn't matter what the master is in then go with the one that offers the coursework that interests you more, and you feel can be expedited for a single term finish. Historically here more have reported completing the MSLM in a single term than the MBA, but being competency-based your professional background could make either equal.  I don't see how getting both adds anything in the way if ROI, as they are too closely aligned in AOS.

This isn't specifically directed at you as it is on how some can't help to throw digs toward those successfully leveraging cheaper options to reach the same goal. My hunch is that if you have spent 3k-6k-12k-20k-50k-100k+ on a degree bachelor's or master's and some have leveraged Sophhia, Straighterline for credits, TESU, WGU, or UMPI for speed or international options in South America, Europe or Africa for Master & Doctorate entries with NA or validated RA US degrees, it must sting knowing you 'might' of had a cheaper, more efficient way to reach that goal.

As the world becomes smaller and smaller through virtual work, the out-of-date position that American degrees or RA accredited is the only way to go will leave many at the finish line with the rest of those that took alternative routes to get there; however,  just carrying a much higher debt to pay off.
Virginia University of Lynchburg Doctorate of Healthcare Administration 
Universidad Isabel I / ENEB MBA & Master in Big Data and Business Intelligence, summa cum laude
University of Presque Isle BABA Management and Leadership, magna cum lauda
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(03-05-2023, 02:55 PM)KSoul Wrote:
(03-05-2023, 02:15 PM)allvia Wrote:
(03-04-2023, 11:54 AM)Sb2013 Wrote: Hi All,  Im planning to start grad school at WGU, but I know you can complete one program than the other by adding 6 more courses. Has anyone done this? Anyone recommend which order to do it in..MCML first then MBA or vice versa? I work in higher education so a Masters is a must for me to move up anywhere at our University or be considered for a pay bump.

Considering the field you work in, I would recommend that you stick with a US RA school and pass on the ENEB as an option (it's still muddy water at best). Either WGU degree will always get you more respect than a degree that was offered on Groupon. I certainly hope no rational person here would argue that simple point; no matter what value it may offer a limited few. As far as the MSLM vs MBA - if an MBA will serve you better, then go direct for it. If it doesn't matter what the master is in then go with the one that offers the coursework that interests you more, and you feel can be expedited for a single term finish. Historically here more have reported completing the MSLM in a single term than the MBA, but being competency-based your professional background could make either equal.  I don't see how getting both adds anything in the way if ROI, as they are too closely aligned in AOS.

This isn't specifically directed at you as it is on how some can't help to throw digs toward those successfully leveraging cheaper options to reach the same goal. My hunch is that if you have spent 3k-6k-12k-20k-50k-100k+ on a degree bachelor's or master's and some have leveraged Sophhia, Straighterline for credits, TESU, WGU, or UMPI for speed or international options in South America, Europe or Africa for Master & Doctorate entries with NA or validated RA US degrees, it must sting knowing you 'might' of had a cheaper, more efficient way to reach that goal.

As the world becomes smaller and smaller through virtual work, the out-of-date position that American degrees or RA accredited is the only way to go will leave many at the finish line with the rest of those that took alternative routes to get there; however,  just carrying a much higher debt to pay off.

To Sb2013 (the OP) - this hypersensitive need to defend the ENEB on such a grand scale as done here above is why in your current work at a place of higher education I made the suggestion(s) that I did. You don't want to take an educational path you'd have to explain to a level you end up insulting another in the process. I have faith that you read my original post in the supportive nature intended. Your choice of WGU is a solid, quick, and very affordable way of achieving the goal you have now; while holding future scrutiny at bay.
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Super funny to call a walkthrough grand. Either you have never experienced anything grand, or my comments landed well on your debt balance.

As stated, this was not for you and is just an opinion from someone who has leveraged these muddy degrees.
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Universidad Isabel I / ENEB MBA & Master in Big Data and Business Intelligence, summa cum laude
University of Presque Isle BABA Management and Leadership, magna cum lauda
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