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VUL introducing new doctorate in May
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(10-13-2022, 10:07 AM)ss20ts Wrote:
(10-13-2022, 06:29 AM)michaeladsmith2 Wrote:
(09-01-2022, 03:23 PM)newdegree Wrote: Has anyone heard anything from VUL about the new doctoral program?

VUL is now offering a 1-year DHA (Doctor of Healthcare Administration) This is directly from their website: https://www.vul.edu/dha/

Why DHA at VUL?
  • 12 months-beginning to completion

  • Degree tuition capped at $18,000

  • Qualify for a top level position

  • Position yourself for higher earning

  • Distinguish yourself as a thought leader

  • Earn the highest scholarly respect

This isn't the new doctoral program we are talking about. They said they were going to release another doctorate program. One should join the Facebook group for this program to see some of the issues in it. There are people who completed their degree a year ago and are STILL waiting for their diploma.

That group is shady. They've been removing comments telling people how to file complaints to get their diplomas.
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#72
(10-13-2022, 12:39 PM)sanantone Wrote: That group is shady. They've been removing comments telling people how to file complaints to get their diplomas.

Doesn't change the fact that there are people waiting a year to get their diploma.
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#73
(10-13-2022, 12:55 PM)ss20ts Wrote:
(10-13-2022, 12:39 PM)sanantone Wrote: That group is shady. They've been removing comments telling people how to file complaints to get their diplomas.

Doesn't change the fact that there are people waiting a year to get their diploma.

The students are definitely not shady. The admin who secretly works for the school is shady, and she wasn't the one who created the group. She was added as an admin later on. If anyone tries to help the graduates who haven't gotten their diplomas, their comments will be removed. VUL doesn't want anyone filing complaints with outside agencies, but if the school has been unresponsive, that's what people have to do. There's no excuse for not mailing out people's diplomas. It's not a hard task. 

Have they at least gotten their transcripts to show that they've graduated?
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#74
(10-13-2022, 01:43 PM)sanantone Wrote: The students are definitely not shady. The admin who secretly works for the school is shady, and she wasn't the one who created the group. She was added as an admin later on. If anyone tries to help the graduates who haven't gotten their diplomas, their comments will be removed. VUL doesn't want anyone filing complaints with outside agencies, but if the school has been unresponsive, that's what people have to do. There's no excuse for not mailing out people's diplomas. It's not a hard task. 

Have they at least gotten their transcripts to show that they've graduated?

Oh that is not cool! I had not seen that happening, but wow. Not cool at all. 

Printing diplomas is a piece of cake! Most are printed on a standard office printer today. It's really easy to open the paper tray and switch out the paper. I am kind of wondering if they are in more serious financial trouble than they are letting on. 

There was someone who asked for their transcript and it said they completed a master's degree not the doctorate! They had to fight to get it corrected. It sounds like a complete mess.
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(10-13-2022, 01:52 PM)ss20ts Wrote:
(10-13-2022, 01:43 PM)sanantone Wrote: The students are definitely not shady. The admin who secretly works for the school is shady, and she wasn't the one who created the group. She was added as an admin later on. If anyone tries to help the graduates who haven't gotten their diplomas, their comments will be removed. VUL doesn't want anyone filing complaints with outside agencies, but if the school has been unresponsive, that's what people have to do. There's no excuse for not mailing out people's diplomas. It's not a hard task. 

Have they at least gotten their transcripts to show that they've graduated?

Oh that is not cool! I had not seen that happening, but wow. Not cool at all. 

Printing diplomas is a piece of cake! Most are printed on a standard office printer today. It's really easy to open the paper tray and switch out the paper. I am kind of wondering if they are in more serious financial trouble than they are letting on. 

There was someone who asked for their transcript and it said they completed a master's degree not the doctorate! They had to fight to get it corrected. It sounds like a complete mess.

Wow! The most important thing is receiving the transcript that says the doctorate was completed, but I'd be angry if I didn't also receive my diploma almost a year after graduating. I also found out that, if you don’t have financial aid set up, they require you to make your first installment payment before sending a letter of acceptance. That's very...unorthodox. I've attended many schools and was never required to make a payment or show proof of having financial aid before being officially informed that I was accepted.
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#76
(10-13-2022, 03:14 PM)sanantone Wrote: Wow! The most important thing is receiving the transcript that says the doctorate was completed, but I'd be angry if I didn't also receive my diploma almost a year after graduating. I also found out that, if you don’t have financial aid set up, they require you to make your first installment payment before sending a letter of acceptance. That's very...unorthodox. I've attended many schools and was never required to make a payment or show proof of having financial aid before being officially informed that I was accepted.

Pay before you're accepted? What? What's there to pay? That makes no sense at all. That is really shady right there. The more I read about this place, the more questions I have. I'm so glad I crossed it off my list early on. I wasn't thrilled with NA and a religious accreditation. Seems like they really area in financial trouble. Might be best to close the doors and save what little dignity they have left.
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#77
(10-13-2022, 03:26 PM)ss20ts Wrote:
(10-13-2022, 03:14 PM)sanantone Wrote: Wow! The most important thing is receiving the transcript that says the doctorate was completed, but I'd be angry if I didn't also receive my diploma almost a year after graduating. I also found out that, if you don’t have financial aid set up, they require you to make your first installment payment before sending a letter of acceptance. That's very...unorthodox. I've attended many schools and was never required to make a payment or show proof of having financial aid before being officially informed that I was accepted.

Pay before you're accepted? What? What's there to pay? That makes no sense at all. That is really shady right there. The more I read about this place, the more questions I have. I'm so glad I crossed it off my list early on. I wasn't thrilled with NA and a religious accreditation. Seems like they really area in financial trouble. Might be best to close the doors and save what little dignity they have left.
I've  completed the DHA program and not sure abot payment due before acceptance. I do think they require payment however at the start. Also the problem with the school is leadership being stuck in 2005. Nobody gives out diplomas at graduation anymore. The school moved graduation from the normal May to late August again this year due to Covid and held graduates in some ways hostage as those in cohorts that  finished earlier than August were forced to wait. Making it even worse the school promised those who didn't attend but paid fees that diplomas and regalia would be mailed within two weeks after commencement but of coursethat didn't happen. Somehow the university screwed up and either didn't order enough regalia to cover three cohorts or got cheap and is now not committed to send out as promised.  Diplomas also have been delayed due to printing errors from those attending graduation. The school is promising to get everyone a replacement diploma by the end of the month as well as diplomas to those still waiting. So again the main problem with the school is with the administration  being understaffed and at times non responsive. I still wonder how they even attract undergraduates as the website is a mess which only adds to confusion. 

Overall the DHA program itself while far from perfect is solid and does a good job covering topics built around organizational leadership in healthcare. Its the administration that unfortunately is holding back VUL in many facets. Hopefully things will get better as the school has some financial stability now. The mindset has to change as they want to be a player in online learning space but still act like a brick and mortar school from 1990.
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#78
(10-13-2022, 01:52 PM)ss20ts Wrote:
(10-13-2022, 01:43 PM)sanantone Wrote: The students are definitely not shady. The admin who secretly works for the school is shady, and she wasn't the one who created the group. She was added as an admin later on. If anyone tries to help the graduates who haven't gotten their diplomas, their comments will be removed. VUL doesn't want anyone filing complaints with outside agencies, but if the school has been unresponsive, that's what people have to do. There's no excuse for not mailing out people's diplomas. It's not a hard task. 

Have they at least gotten their transcripts to show that they've graduated?

Oh that is not cool! I had not seen that happening, but wow. Not cool at all. 

Printing diplomas is a piece of cake! Most are printed on a standard office printer today. It's really easy to open the paper tray and switch out the paper. I am kind of wondering if they are in more serious financial trouble than they are letting on. 

There was someone who asked for their transcript and it said they completed a master's degree not the doctorate! They had to fight to get it corrected. It sounds like a complete mess.
that's whyy we have other groups :Big Grin

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(10-13-2022, 03:26 PM)ss20ts Wrote:
(10-13-2022, 03:14 PM)sanantone Wrote: Wow! The most important thing is receiving the transcript that says the doctorate was completed, but I'd be angry if I didn't also receive my diploma almost a year after graduating. I also found out that, if you don’t have financial aid set up, they require you to make your first installment payment before sending a letter of acceptance. That's very...unorthodox. I've attended many schools and was never required to make a payment or show proof of having financial aid before being officially informed that I was accepted.

Pay before you're accepted? What? What's there to pay? That makes no sense at all. That is really shady right there. The more I read about this place, the more questions I have. I'm so glad I crossed it off my list early on. I wasn't thrilled with NA and a religious accreditation. Seems like they really area in financial trouble. Might be best to close the doors and save what little dignity they have left.

I was accepted before my MA was even conferred. i gave them an in progress transcript and told them I'll be done by X date, they just had me resend the transcripts before class starts. 

Friend had his boyfriend apply, he got in. No financial stuff needed.
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#79
This person received an email in July informing them to pay before receiving their acceptance letter.

https://imgur.com/a/t6FUj1q

This is from two years ago, so they've been doing this all along. Some people are being dishonest.

Congratulations! Virginia University of Lynchburg and the School of Business and Professional Studies have received and approved your application for admission to the Doctor of Healthcare Administration (DHA) program.


We request that you work with our Business Office on an acceptable payment plan for the DHA program; Layton Smith may be reached at 434-941-5537 or 434-528-5276 x1109 to complete this essential step. You may also call the Financial Aid Director Romena Morgan at 434-528-5276 x1105.

When the payment process is complete, we will issue a formal letter of acceptance. Please contact us if you have any questions.

Best Wishes,

Rex Hammond
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#80
Why would anyone pay tuition before they're officially accepted? That just does not sit right with me. No wonder they aren't RA. Pretty sure RA wouldn't let you pull crap like this and keep your accreditation. Maybe Virginia needs to look into this school.
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