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Art History is learning objective 2E, not 2D. There isn't any Sophia course, possibly no alternate course, that fills 2D. This came up before.
5E (American Government) is InstantCert - but get permission first.
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(06-22-2021, 12:07 PM)nmnyc11 Wrote: (06-22-2021, 11:55 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: nmnyc11, from the picture, you need ENG 211 or HUM 130. Email Jessica and see if you can complete an alternative course, you're going to by emailing or speaking with her anyways in regards to the GEC E - POS101, American Government course. I would ask about Art History I or II at Sophia.org!
Thank you again for pointing me in the direction of UMPI! Just as a PSA, the Sophia Art History courses seem to fill only 2E now. I did email Jessica because I remembered that I took Photography at a SUNY. It involved both taking photos myself to create my own portfolio and writing critiques of other photographers' work, so I asked her why it wouldn't fulfill "Students will be able to produce a tangible expression of creativity." We'll see what she says. I don't mind taking POS101 or HUM130 there; I was just curious to see if anyone had an alt-credit recommendation that I could knock out as I waited.
Art History has never filled the studio art requirement in the GEC. Art History fills 2E of the GEC which gets you out of HUM103. POS101 is American Government which can be taken on InstantCert and transferred in. If your photography class was a studio art class it should fill 2D of the GEC but that is determined by the Registrar. Jessica is an advisor (amongst other things) and the ultimate decision is made by the Registrar on transferability.
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(06-22-2021, 12:07 PM)nmnyc11 Wrote: (06-22-2021, 11:55 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: nmnyc11, from the picture, you need ENG 211 or HUM 130. Email Jessica and see if you can complete an alternative course, you're going to by emailing or speaking with her anyways in regards to the GEC E - POS101, American Government course. I would ask about Art History I or II at Sophia.org!
Thank you again for pointing me in the direction of UMPI! Just as a PSA, the Sophia Art History courses seem to fill only 2E now. I did email Jessica because I remembered that I took Photography at a SUNY. It involved both taking photos myself to create my own portfolio and writing critiques of other photographers' work, so I asked her why it wouldn't fulfill "Students will be able to produce a tangible expression of creativity." We'll see what she says. I don't mind taking POS101 or HUM130 there; I was just curious to see if anyone had an alt-credit recommendation that I could knock out as I waited.
Photography is one of the courses listed to fulfill 2D, so I'm guessing it will work. Since you didn't list it here, I'm wondering if you actually sent your SUNY transcript there, and if they've evaluated it yet. That may be the issue.
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(06-22-2021, 12:19 PM)ss20ts Wrote: (06-22-2021, 12:07 PM)nmnyc11 Wrote: (06-22-2021, 11:55 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: nmnyc11, from the picture, you need ENG 211 or HUM 130. Email Jessica and see if you can complete an alternative course, you're going to by emailing or speaking with her anyways in regards to the GEC E - POS101, American Government course. I would ask about Art History I or II at Sophia.org!
Thank you again for pointing me in the direction of UMPI! Just as a PSA, the Sophia Art History courses seem to fill only 2E now. I did email Jessica because I remembered that I took Photography at a SUNY. It involved both taking photos myself to create my own portfolio and writing critiques of other photographers' work, so I asked her why it wouldn't fulfill "Students will be able to produce a tangible expression of creativity." We'll see what she says. I don't mind taking POS101 or HUM130 there; I was just curious to see if anyone had an alt-credit recommendation that I could knock out as I waited.
Art History has never filled the studio art requirement in the GEC. Art History fills 2E of the GEC which gets you out of HUM103. POS101 is American Government which can be taken on InstantCert and transferred in. If your photography class was a studio art class it should fill 2D of the GEC but that is determined by the Registrar. Jessica is an advisor (amongst other things) and the ultimate decision is made by the Registrar on transferability.
Thank you! That makes sense. I vaguely remember seeing a post somewhere saying that Art History would fill it, which I thought was odd at the time. In any case, I will wait and see what they say.
(06-22-2021, 12:25 PM)dfrecore Wrote: (06-22-2021, 12:07 PM)nmnyc11 Wrote: (06-22-2021, 11:55 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: nmnyc11, from the picture, you need ENG 211 or HUM 130. Email Jessica and see if you can complete an alternative course, you're going to by emailing or speaking with her anyways in regards to the GEC E - POS101, American Government course. I would ask about Art History I or II at Sophia.org!
Thank you again for pointing me in the direction of UMPI! Just as a PSA, the Sophia Art History courses seem to fill only 2E now. I did email Jessica because I remembered that I took Photography at a SUNY. It involved both taking photos myself to create my own portfolio and writing critiques of other photographers' work, so I asked her why it wouldn't fulfill "Students will be able to produce a tangible expression of creativity." We'll see what she says. I don't mind taking POS101 or HUM130 there; I was just curious to see if anyone had an alt-credit recommendation that I could knock out as I waited.
Photography is one of the courses listed to fulfill 2D, so I'm guessing it will work. Since you didn't list it here, I'm wondering if you actually sent your SUNY transcript there, and if they've evaluated it yet. That may be the issue.
Lol, yes. I forgot about that one when I wrote the post here but I did manage to remember to send it to UMPI. I took it close to 20 years ago. I asked Jessica because I thought that one would fill the studio art/creativity requirement, but it came in as an art elective. In doing some research, I'm wondering whether it's because the course I took is no longer offered. It changed to a new class that still involves taking pictures but seems to emphasize the critiques more. That particular SUNY used to offer detailed learning evaluations in narrative form that described in detail what we did in each class and why we got the grades that we got. I'm literally digging through boxes of old papers trying to find it (I left a message at that college's registrar's office to get them to resend it to me too). I'm also wondering if it'd be easier to submit my portfolio or apply for a waiver (I worked as a photographer for 15 years and have been published a lot). We'll see what they say. I don't mind taking one of the two classes they listed for that requirement, but if I've learned anything from this journey, it's that it doesn't hurt to ask.
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(06-22-2021, 12:48 PM)nmnyc11 Wrote: Lol, yes. I forgot about that one when I wrote the post here but I did manage to remember to send it to UMPI. I took it close to 20 years ago. I asked Jessica because I thought that one would fill the studio art/creativity requirement, but it came in as an art elective. In doing some research, I'm wondering whether it's because the course I took is no longer offered. It changed to a new class that still involves taking pictures but seems to emphasize the critiques more. That particular SUNY used to offer detailed learning evaluations in narrative form that described in detail what we did in each class and why we got the grades that we got. I'm literally digging through boxes of old papers trying to find it (I left a message at that college's registrar's office to get them to resend it to me too). I'm also wondering if it'd be easier to submit my portfolio or apply for a waiver (I worked as a photographer for 15 years and have been published a lot). We'll see what they say. I don't mind taking one of the two classes they listed for that requirement, but if I've learned anything from this journey, it's that it doesn't hurt to ask.
I had to contact my community college for a course description for CSU Global. The Registrar couldn't help me. I had to contact the department chair and dean. They were able to get me a description from ages ago.
The portfolio waiver would be a PLA course which is much more work than the actual UMPI courses. There aren't 2 courses in YourPace to fill this requirement. You take HUM103 and that's it.
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(06-22-2021, 01:56 PM)ss20ts Wrote: (06-22-2021, 12:48 PM)nmnyc11 Wrote: Lol, yes. I forgot about that one when I wrote the post here but I did manage to remember to send it to UMPI. I took it close to 20 years ago. I asked Jessica because I thought that one would fill the studio art/creativity requirement, but it came in as an art elective. In doing some research, I'm wondering whether it's because the course I took is no longer offered. It changed to a new class that still involves taking pictures but seems to emphasize the critiques more. That particular SUNY used to offer detailed learning evaluations in narrative form that described in detail what we did in each class and why we got the grades that we got. I'm literally digging through boxes of old papers trying to find it (I left a message at that college's registrar's office to get them to resend it to me too). I'm also wondering if it'd be easier to submit my portfolio or apply for a waiver (I worked as a photographer for 15 years and have been published a lot). We'll see what they say. I don't mind taking one of the two classes they listed for that requirement, but if I've learned anything from this journey, it's that it doesn't hurt to ask.
I had to contact my community college for a course description for CSU Global. The Registrar couldn't help me. I had to contact the department chair and dean. They were able to get me a description from ages ago.
The portfolio waiver would be a PLA course which is much more work than the actual UMPI courses. There aren't 2 courses in YourPace to fill this requirement. You take HUM103 and that's it.
Yay! Thank you guys for all the help. After I saw your post, I was resigned to just taking HUM103 or the ENG211 class as the PLA definitely sounds like too much work for what it'd be worth, but I got a reply from Jessica. The photography was left off my plan in error. She sent me an updated audit, so I just need the Government and my gen ed requirements will be met. All's well that end's well. I just can't wait to get started now!
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(06-22-2021, 02:13 PM)nmnyc11 Wrote: Yay! Thank you guys for all the help. After I saw your post, I was resigned to just taking HUM103 or the ENG211 class as the PLA definitely sounds like too much work for what it'd be worth, but I got a reply from Jessica. The photography was left off my plan in error. She sent me an updated audit, so I just need the Government and my gen ed requirements will be met. All's well that end's well. I just can't wait to get started now!
Awesome! American Government can be taken on InstantCert but get permission with Jessica first since you've already applied and they have evaluated your transcripts. You can just email her the request.
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