Two bachelor's degrees, same credits?

[innen_oda]

A master degree can only build upon the type of bachelor degree he or she already has so pretty much useless if a person wants to change career. And much more expensive as well.

This is very dependent on country. In the US and Australia, for example, a Master in a new field is precisely how many people change careers. In many parts of Europe, meanwhile, your Master is seen only as a continuation of your Bachelor.

But I agree with you in not understanding the opposition in this forum towards multiple Bachelor degrees.

[rachel83az]

Why everybody always worry about how people want to spend their money? A second degree is a second degree. It can be in a total different area from the first one and applicable towards a different career. A master degree can only build upon the type of bachelor degree he or she already has so pretty much useless if a person wants to change career. And much more expensive as well.

If you are using the exact same credits for a second degree, it's almost certain to be the exact same degree but from a different institution. It'd be very hard to plan your credits so that you are able to get two completely different degrees with the same credits. If you're taking new credits, then there's no worry about whether or not this is allowed; it's a new degree.

But I agree with you in not understanding the opposition in this forum towards multiple Bachelor degrees.

Same. A Master's degree is generally so much more expensive than a Bachelor's degree and it's a lot more effort as well. If you want/need to do that, great. If not, nothing wrong with another Bachelor's degree if it serves your purpose.

[ss20ts]

All Regionally Accredited community colleges and universities are part of the National Student Clearing House, they will have a copy of all colleges you have attended.  As a side note, SOME Nationally Accredited and Internationally Accredited schools are also on this clearing house as they also target the US market.  Having said that, yes, you can take all the courses from College A, transfer them to College B, and almost be done with the degree.  

Requirements for each school may differ slightly, here's an example, if I take a Business Management degree at Penn Foster and all their courses are ACE recommended for credit, you can transfer that to an RA school such as COSC if it meets all the requirements for the degree and be complete with your COSC BSBA by taking the final 6 credits from COSC - their cornerstone and capstone.  But why would you want duplicating degrees?

Again, this is possible, but if it was me, I would rather use the money from the cost of paying tuition for the cornerstone/capstone into say an MBA from Walden since they've got a 50% off the life of their program right now for many degree programs that they are offering.

Why everybody always worry about how people want to spend their money? A second degree is a second degree. It can be in a total different area from the first one and applicable towards a different career. A master degree can only build upon the type of bachelor degree he or she already has so pretty much useless if a person wants to change career. And much more expensive as well.

A master's not at all useless when making a career change. I know many people who have completed a master's degree in a different subject matter because they wanted to make a career change. For many professions and jobs, a bachelor's degree is the bare minimum to get your resume looked at. What a master's does for a career is different based on what country you're in as well.

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Why everybody always worry about how people want to spend their money? A second degree is a second degree. It can be in a total different area from the first one and applicable towards a different career. A master degree can only build upon the type of bachelor degree he or she already has so pretty much useless if a person wants to change career. And much more expensive as well.

If you are using the exact same credits for a second degree, it's almost certain to be the exact same degree but from a different institution. It'd be very hard to plan your credits so that you are able to get two completely different degrees with the same credits. If you're taking new credits, then there's no worry about whether or not this is allowed; it's a new degree.

But I agree with you in not understanding the opposition in this forum towards multiple Bachelor degrees.

Same. A Master's degree is generally so much more expensive than a Bachelor's degree and it's a lot more effort as well. If you want/need to do that, great. If not, nothing wrong with another Bachelor's degree if it serves your purpose.

Here's the thing.....getting a second bachelor's degree isn't always cheaper than a master's degree. Many jobs actually require a master's degree. Not sure how a master's is more effort since they're typically around 36 credits - some more and some less. Meanwhile, a bachelor's degree is a minimum of 120 credits and takes much longer.

[rachel83az]

Here's the thing.....getting a second bachelor's degree isn't always cheaper than a master's degree. Many jobs actually require a master's degree. Not sure how a master's is more effort since they're typically around 36 credits - some more and some less. Meanwhile, a bachelor's degree is a minimum of 120 credits and takes much longer.

Ah, but if you already have a 1st bachelor's degree, you can usually get the second for 30 credits or less; at TESU, it's just 24 extra credits. But even the 12 credit difference doesn't tell the whole story. You can't test out of grad credits. Grad credits tend to be more work per unit than undergrad ones. You're stuck to one school so if life happens and/or you find out that a different school has a program better suited to your goals, you could have to start all over - unlike undergrad degrees where there is at least some acceptance of transfer credits from other institutions. It's not guaranteed but it is a lot easier to move from one undergrad program to another.

[ss20ts]

Here's the thing.....getting a second bachelor's degree isn't always cheaper than a master's degree. Many jobs actually require a master's degree. Not sure how a master's is more effort since they're typically around 36 credits - some more and some less. Meanwhile, a bachelor's degree is a minimum of 120 credits and takes much longer.

Ah, but if you already have a 1st bachelor's degree, you can usually get the second for 30 credits or less; at TESU, it's just 24 extra credits. But even the 12 credit difference doesn't tell the whole story. You can't test out of grad credits. Grad credits tend to be more work per unit than undergrad ones. You're stuck to one school so if life happens and/or you find out that a different school has a program better suited to your goals, you could have to start all over - unlike undergrad degrees where there is at least some acceptance of transfer credits from other institutions. It's not guaranteed but it is a lot easier to move from one undergrad program to another.

That's TESU. Everyone doesn't go to TESU. You're also forgetting how many of those credits need to be UL and doing another capstone. Seems like most people on here aren't over the moon about doing the first one.

[rachel83az]

Again, it's usually ~30 undergrad credits for your second bachelor's degree. And the capstone is dreaded because it's nothing but writing assignments. As I understand it, most Master's classes are equivalent to the capstone in needing to write long papers. TESU's capstone is an intro to grad courses.

[StoicJ]

All Regionally Accredited community colleges and universities are part of the National Student Clearing House, they will have a copy of all colleges you have attended.  As a side note, SOME Nationally Accredited and Internationally Accredited schools are also on this clearing house as they also target the US market.  Having said that, yes, you can take all the courses from College A, transfer them to College B, and almost be done with the degree.  

Requirements for each school may differ slightly, here's an example, if I take a Business Management degree at Penn Foster and all their courses are ACE recommended for credit, you can transfer that to an RA school such as COSC if it meets all the requirements for the degree and be complete with your COSC BSBA by taking the final 6 credits from COSC - their cornerstone and capstone.  But why would you want duplicating degrees?

Again, this is possible, but if it was me, I would rather use the money from the cost of paying tuition for the cornerstone/capstone into say an MBA from Walden since they've got a 50% off the life of their program right now for many degree programs that they are offering.

Why everybody always worry about how people want to spend their money? A second degree is a second degree. It can be in a total different area from the first one and applicable towards a different career. A master degree can only build upon the type of bachelor degree he or she already has so pretty much useless if a person wants to change career. And much more expensive as well.

It looks to me like bjcheung was talking about getting a bachelor degree in business management from Penn Foster, then doing a little dance to also get a bachelor degree in business administration from COSC. Yes, a second degree is a second degree, but BM and BA are so similar I don't get why one would bother?

As for a 2nd bachelor degree, look at bjcheung's signature. I hardly think he's about bashing the idea. Also, I think the guy has like 400 undergrad credits 

[ss20ts]

Again, it's usually ~30 undergrad credits for your second bachelor's degree. And the capstone is dreaded because it's nothing but writing assignments. As I understand it, most Master's classes are equivalent to the capstone in needing to write long papers. TESU's capstone is an intro to grad courses.

Many people have had to write a great deal as an undergrad. You can spend your time on 30 credits for a master's degree which will help you in your career. Most of the time a second bachelor's degree is meaningless. It won't advance your career usually either. You may lose out on jobs to people who have a master's degree. Food for thought.

[StoicJ]

Most of the time a second bachelor's degree is meaningless. 

If someone has a BSBA, and they want to transfer 90 credits over and do about 30 UL social science or history courses to get a 2nd degree, the idea that such an endeavour would be considered "meaningless" is so strange to me.

[rachel83az]

Most of the time a second bachelor's degree is meaningless. 

If someone has a BSBA, and they want to transfer 90 credits over and do about 30 UL social science or history courses to get a 2nd degree, the idea that such an endeavour would be considered "meaningless" is so strange to me.

Indeed. For instance, you might have gotten a business degree and decided that you have better employment opportunities with a STEM degree of some kind. You might not be ready for grad-level STEM courses (nor would you even be accepted into most programs!) but there are plenty of jobs that will happily take a Bachelor's STEM degree; no Master's required.

Honestly, the push towards getting a Master's degree to get a job is devaluing a Bachelor's degree. We've already lost the Associate's degree. It wasn't that long ago that an Associate's was still an acceptable degree to have when looking for work. I hate slippery-slope arguments but, at this rate, it really won't be long before you're going to be expected to hold a doctorate to be able to compete in the job market.