TESU cos-111 - introduction to programming equivalency?

[posabsolute]

Hey guys,

For fun I added the BA in CS to my evaluation, It seems I would basically missing 4 courses that I would need to take at TESU, mainly:

* data structure
* discrete math
* operating system
* computer architecture

But I was surprised to see that SL C++ class does not fit the introduction to programming requirement, any self-paced class would fit there? Maybe the new onlinedegree.com class would fit, but it's not opened to canadian..

thanks!

[davewill]

Intro to programming is plain old Computer Science 101. Saylor has it, and there are others. If you know Java, you could probably pass the Saylor exam with a few hours of looking over the material.

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If you can find Data Structures and Discrete Math at your local CC, that's probably the cheapest way.

APU has Discrete Math for about half the cost of TESU: http://www.apu.apus.edu/academic/resourc...se/math210

[posabsolute]

Interesting, I will try to get that planned,

If I do the cornerstone to get enrolled, I would be at 16 credits with TESU and would be able to waive the residency cost, that's why I still plan to do the other courses with TESU.

[dfrecore]

Hey guys,

For fun I added the BA in CS to my evaluation, It seems I would basically missing 4 courses that I would need to take at TESU, mainly:

* data structure
* discrete math
* operating system
* computer architecture

But I was surprised to see that SL C++ class does not fit the introduction to programming requirement, any self-paced class would fit there? Maybe the new onlinedegree.com class would fit, but it's not opened to canadian..

thanks!

A couple of questions:

1) why do you say that SL's C++ course doesn't fit in the Intro to Programming requirement?  I have always heard that it does

2) how are you adding a new degree to what you're doing?  Did you already graduate from TESU with the BSBA?  If so, you can't do another degree just by taking 4 courses.  If you're still getting the BSBA (or have finished all the requirements and are just waiting for the conferral of your degree), you can't add the BA in CS to your BSBA.


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[posabsolute]

1. Student Advising told me it's not a direct equivalency, it needs to be COS-111 and C++ is COS-204, should I push back?

2. I already graduated, and yes I have other credits I need to do outside those 4, but I meet the 24 new credits.

Basically I'm also missing:
Calculus:
SL Calculus

AOS:
Saylor, Software Engineering
study.com, Computer Science 303: Database Management
study.com, Computer Science 302: Systems Analysis & Design

[dfrecore]

1. Student Advising told me it's not a direct equivalency, it needs to be COS-111 and C++ is COS-204, should I push back?

Yes, there are multiple courses that will fit the requirement, it's not a specific course number, but must be a programming course.  I think you talked to someone who isn't familiar with how things work there.  Call back and talk to someone else.

[posabsolute]

Interesting, I have 2 programming course already from another transcript, but the advisor would not let me use those, OK will try someone else, 
Anyway, Saylor intro to computer science seems easier, I'm reviewing each section and I'm already hitting more than 70%.

[davewill]

@posabsolute, it is possible I have led you astray. That slot in the degree used to be COS-101 Intro to Computers, but is now described as Intro to Programming. Although the Saylor CS-101 course outline does track closely with TESU's COS-111. What does your academic eval say there exactly? The BACS is no longer available to do a what-if eval on the student portal. I now think you may need an actual programming course, but see what TESU advising says. TESU's is Java, but they should take others. I now also find it odd they didn't allow C++ to fill that slot.

[posabsolute]

A: Intro to Programming (Not started)
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No mention of the course fulfilling, the advisor told me that cos-111 would fulfill.

I also got introduction to computer and it's in the free elective section, so it seems this is a no go.

[davewill]

Hmmmm. The Saylor CS-101 course outline does track pretty close to the TESU COS-111 course description. I think you need to ask about that one.