TESC policy change requiring 300/400 for UL?

[cookderosa]

[QUOTE=Jason86]Thanks for the update. Wonder if TE is making these changes to make it harder to "test out". After all they make a lot more money if you take classes online.

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Yeah, but TECEPs have more profit incentive. No mentors, just mail out a 3 page test and grade it. Courses require mentors, who require paychecks!
Ok, so my magic prediction, is that the TECEPs are going to become 300/400 level exams <shock> while CLEP/DSSTs are going to remain/be evaluated as 100/200 level so you "have" to either take TECEPs, courses, or transfer in from a 4 year college. Nearly everyone will let you take 1 class as a non-enrolled student, but getting a university to let you take 4 or 5 is another thing all together! (TESC knows this) They have a captive audience.
The other option, which may or may not be part of their goal, is to bolster enrollment for their master's programs. As you know, TESC allows double-dipping about 12 credits from their master list-if you could use master classes to hit your upper level, it might inspire more people to go with a TESC master's program simply as a matter of it being the easier option (instead of finding 300/400 level classes somewhere else).

[Jason86]

Both of those 'predictions', (angles or agendas) make a lot of $$ and sense for TE.

[nj593]

Maybe its because im running on 4 hours sleep but i dont get this post. Maybe its because I dont like TESC policies and im already biased to listening to anything they say. Or maybe its just that im a little tardy in the eyes and I dont get this.:confused:
Can someone explain to me what this means and if this is going to affect my Psychology degree at TESC that im attempting soon?
thanks hilarious

Did I miss it before, or is this a change in policy for TESC?

If choosing Option A:Area of Concentration or Option C: Liberal Studies Area for a BA, it states:

"A maximum of 6 credits at the 100 level and a minimum of 18 credits at the 300 or 400 level must be earned" of the 33 required -- I'm reading pg 52 of the 09-10 catalog.

This is not so for option B: Area of Study. Just need 33 credits in one subject area.

Is this new? I thought 200 level would apply for UL credits in these categories.

[cookderosa]

Maybe its because im running on 4 hours sleep but i dont get this post. Maybe its because I dont like TESC policies and im already biased to listening to anything they say. Or maybe its just that im a little tardy in the eyes and I dont get this.:confused:
Can someone explain to me what this means and if this is going to affect my Psychology degree at TESC that im attempting soon?
thanks hilarious

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I'll explain if you don't mind some minor paraphrasing, I can't find anything on the new TESC website lol- someone can tell me later why I can no longer access the college catalog, what the heck is that about? ANYWAY....
First, this won't be an issue if you get a BA in psychology. Majors at TESC are already clearly defined, so whatever classes/groups of classes they say you need, they are already listed. So, you need X credits in ABC class, they don't identify a certain course number requirement- so as long as the course is what they ask, you are good to go.
It will be a big issue for 4 degrees:
BA Social Science
BA Mathematics/Natural Science
BA Humanities
BA Liberal Arts
As it was, you could fill those 33 credit requirements using classes/exams at the 200 level or higher. (ENG 101 wouldn't work, but ENG 201 would) They put a cap on how many 100 level courses, but as long as you used 200 or higher, that's all they dictated. This was a HUGE HUGE HUGE perk for testers because all of the CLEP exams are 100 or 200 level- meaning you could use any of them! Now, with the restriction of needing 300/400 you have to start hunting for 300/400 level credits. Some DSST exams are that level, but as far as I can tell, TECEP exams and maybe EC exams are the only exam options for testing out of those credits. The alternative, is classes from a 4 year university (community colleges only offer 100/200 level classes) or TESC....and TESC doesn't offer a whole lot of classes!
Without using a fine tooth comb, I'm going to go out on a limb and say this squashes the math/natural science option for many people- those upper level sciences and maths are next to impossible to find!
*If you are already enrolled under the old policy, then the change won't impact you at all.

[cookderosa]

I just spent a few minutes looking deeper on the Natural Science & Math Concentration, as it applies to the new TESC policy. uhhh it's bad news for testers!
Using CLEP, DSST, or TECEP, there is not a single exam that counts as upper level science or math. There is no GRE option for TESC. Excelsior's system is under construction for a few hours, so I can't confirm if they are offering EC exams in upper level science. Ohio offers only 1 exam option, it's a 4 credit math which comes in as a 300 level, but Calc 3 is a pre-req lol. :eek:

For those wanting to take classes, TESC is only offering 1 course (6cr) in 300 level science- Global Enviro Change. Community colleges don't offer 300/400as well. I found a handful of class options that would work- Ohio and others offer independent study classes at the 300 level. Not a big deal if you don't mind doing the work, buying the books, etc.

Options? If you already have upper level science but no degree, you might be ok (as long as they don't impose expiration dates). If you can do a PLA, you might be able to squeeze out a few credits. But, IMO, the options are too few, this concentration is dead.

[don100]

Hi!
Do you know what level that TESC will consider for organic chemistry?
Thanks

[OnMyWay]

Wow, boy are times a changin'...

[Jason86]

Wow, boy are times a changin'...

Haha... I know! I'm gettin my BA while the gettin's good. (No telling what they'll require next.)

[cookderosa]

Hi!
Do you know what level that TESC will consider for organic chemistry?
Thanks

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I'm sure it will be 200 level.

[don100]

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I'm sure it will be 200 level.

Thank you Jenifer,
I applied to TESC in June and got my evaluation in July and by that time, 200 level courses were accepted for upper level but I now late to apply 10 credits of Organic Chemistry/w lab. I wish TESC had given some kind of warning before changing its policy. Oh well! Now I have to look for upper level online science/math courses. Do you know any school offer BIO or CHEM with affordable tuition?
Thanks again.