TEL Learning - your new best friend (cheap RA credits)

[rachel83az]

Another new partner: Southern Arkansas University Tech. SAU Tech only has 4 equivalencies listed, though.

[dfrecore]

Another new partner: Southern Arkansas University Tech. SAU Tech only has 4 equivalencies listed, though.

Yeah, I wasn't going to post it since they're equivalencies that will come in on other schools the same.  Not much value here yet.

[Shorn27]

I just noticed that they've added York College as a partner. Quantitative Analysis I is FIVE credits through York College.

Does anyone know what will happen if this transfers to TESU? Is it possible that they downgrade it back to a 3 credit course? I'm hoping to do this 5 credit course with the Chemistry Lab to give me a solid 9 credits. 

And as for things like Latin, it doesn't show up in any courses at TESU. Does that means they'll reject it?

[rachel83az]

I just noticed that they've added York College as a partner. Quantitative Analysis I is FIVE credits through York College.

Does anyone know what will happen if this transfers to TESU? Is it possible that they downgrade it back to a 3 credit course? I'm hoping to do this 5 credit course with the Chemistry Lab to give me a solid 9 credits. 

And as for things like Latin, it doesn't show up in any courses at TESU. Does that means they'll reject it?

Probably 99% of the time, TESU brings in courses with the same amount of credits as were earned at the original institution. The biggest change seems to be when they convert quarter hours (which these are not) to semester hours. From what I've seen, they don't always do a straightforward conversion there. Since that's not a concern here, it should be brought in for the same amount of credits it shows on your York College transcript.

As for things like Latin not showing up in the transfer list, all that means is that nobody has transferred those courses to TESU yet. They will transfer but we don't know exactly what they will transfer as. If you're just looking for extra credits and not for an exact transfer equivalency, you've got nothing to worry about.

[Shorn27]

Thanks for clearing that up.
Except now I just looked at the equivalencies for MACU and Oklahoma and I don't see any 4 or 5s there... am I missing something?
Quantitative Analysis at 5 creds is still there though

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[dfrecore]

I just noticed that they've added York College as a partner. Quantitative Analysis I is FIVE credits through York College.

Does anyone know what will happen if this transfers to TESU? Is it possible that they downgrade it back to a 3 credit course? I'm hoping to do this 5 credit course with the Chemistry Lab to give me a solid 9 credits. 

And as for things like Latin, it doesn't show up in any courses at TESU. Does that means they'll reject it?

Probably 99% of the time, TESU brings in courses with the same amount of credits as were earned at the original institution. The biggest change seems to be when they convert quarter hours (which these are not) to semester hours. From what I've seen, they don't always do a straightforward conversion there. Since that's not a concern here, it should be brought in for the same amount of credits it shows on your York College transcript.

As for things like Latin not showing up in the transfer list, all that means is that nobody has transferred those courses to TESU yet. They will transfer but we don't know exactly what they will transfer as. If you're just looking for extra credits and not for an exact transfer equivalency, you've got nothing to worry about.

TESU does not list every single course ever - they only list courses that they offer or that have been sent in.  So most college courses won't be listed.  That's the case for all schools by the way.

But in general, TESU brings in courses as transcripted by an RA school - so if the original school says a course is 4 or 5 credits, that's what they'll bring it in as.  I've seen hundreds, maybe a thousand, evals, and they've stuck to that 100% of the time.

As for converting quarter hours, TESU uses the same conversion all the time: x⅔.  ALWAYS. https://www.tesu.edu/academics/catalog/transfer-credit

Quarter    Semester
Credits     Credits
----------   -----------
1            0.67
2            1.33
3            2.0
4            2.67
5            3.33
6            4.0

[thepoetvd776]

With TESU's new policy (90cr max alternative credit, need 30cr RA to get a degree starting 1/1/20), and COSC having this requirement as well, I thought I'd give some info on TEL Learning.

First, they are $67/cr - not the very cheapest RA credits you can find (in-state as some schools will be less, I'm looking at you California) - but they are the cheapest self-paced RA credits you can find.

No UL, unfortunately, but with smart planning, you can use these for your GE and/or Free Electives to get those needed 24cr of RA at COSC and TESU; save your alt-credit for hard-to-find requirements and UL Core/AOS courses!

My DD18 (college freshman) has a long 6-week winter break, but the winter intercession courses are only 4 weeks long, they don't make use of the next 2 weeks she has off, and 1 week at the end (finals) overlaps with a vacation she's taking, so that's not an option for her. The self-paced format will work perfectly for her, since she'll have no other courses to take for the next 5 weeks. She does want to take Bio & Chem as recommended but not required pre-reqs to Intro to Anatomy & Physiology that she'll take next fall.  So she's going to take Bio starting next week, and Chem in the summer.

I've heard some good things about the format and content of a different TEL course, so I'm hoping the quality is good here as well. I'll report back as we go.

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Also, there are 4 partner schools you can use to transcribe the credits.  TEL has a page showing the course equivalencies for each school.  This is very important - you want a course to be called something that the receiving school will understand and give you credit where you think it should go easily, no need to fight about it. The only TEL course that won't work is the ENG1100: Intro to Reading & Writing which is deemed pre-English Comp I at all 4 schools. Don't take it.

Here's a breakdown of the issues at the 4 schools:

Mid-American Christian University (MACU)
PROS: It looks like you get 5cr for Latin - a bonus there!  Every course is named something that's an easy transfer to most schools, so it's probably going to be the best option for everyone.
CONS: PHY1103: Physical Sciences comes in as NATS2103: Environmental Science, which may or may not be an issue for some people.
This school gets top billing because it's the best option for the most number of people; it has every course; and the equivalencies are great.
This school is 1st on my list of 4

Lane College
PROS: All courses except the "cons" ones have good equivalencies
CONS: BIO1303: Intro to Biology comes in as BIO143: Biological Science for Education, which I don't love.  Latin, Chinese and Intro to IT aren't available here
This school is 2nd on my list of 4

Oklahoma Christian University
PROS: It looks like you get 4cr for Chinese, and 5cr for Latin - a bonus there!  All other courses except the "cons" ones have good equivalencies
CONS: ENG2303: Literature & Composition comes in as ENGL-2213: Perspectives in Literature rather than English Comp II, which may be a big issue for many.  HUM1103: Intro to Christianity isn't available.  And the 3 science courses all require you to do the lab before you can get credit; if you don't need a lab, this is an issue. 
This school is 3rd on my list of 4.

Greenville University
PROS: none
CONS: You're required to take both ENG1303: Language & Composition and ENG2303: Literature & Composition to get 3cr for ENGL105: Writing & Critical Inquiry - NO THANKS!  AND, they did not give course number for all of the courses; they seem to have just showed what area the course will work at THEIR school.
This school is 4th on my list of 4. Actually it doesn't even hit 4th - since there is no real reason to use this school, I wouldn't do it.

Thank you for the information.

Did you have any luck transferring in Latin into TESU?

I went to :
https://www.tesu.edu/admissions/transfer-credit

and tried searching for Mid-America Christian University, and I dont see that Latin 1 showing up there as being transferrable. Maybe I'm missing something here.

[jch]

With TESU's new policy (90cr max alternative credit, need 30cr RA to get a degree starting 1/1/20), and COSC having this requirement as well, I thought I'd give some info on TEL Learning.

First, they are $67/cr - not the very cheapest RA credits you can find (in-state as some schools will be less, I'm looking at you California) - but they are the cheapest self-paced RA credits you can find.

No UL, unfortunately, but with smart planning, you can use these for your GE and/or Free Electives to get those needed 24cr of RA at COSC and TESU; save your alt-credit for hard-to-find requirements and UL Core/AOS courses!

My DD18 (college freshman) has a long 6-week winter break, but the winter intercession courses are only 4 weeks long, they don't make use of the next 2 weeks she has off, and 1 week at the end (finals) overlaps with a vacation she's taking, so that's not an option for her. The self-paced format will work perfectly for her, since she'll have no other courses to take for the next 5 weeks. She does want to take Bio & Chem as recommended but not required pre-reqs to Intro to Anatomy & Physiology that she'll take next fall.  So she's going to take Bio starting next week, and Chem in the summer.

I've heard some good things about the format and content of a different TEL course, so I'm hoping the quality is good here as well. I'll report back as we go.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Also, there are 4 partner schools you can use to transcribe the credits.  TEL has a page showing the course equivalencies for each school.  This is very important - you want a course to be called something that the receiving school will understand and give you credit where you think it should go easily, no need to fight about it. The only TEL course that won't work is the ENG1100: Intro to Reading & Writing which is deemed pre-English Comp I at all 4 schools. Don't take it.

Here's a breakdown of the issues at the 4 schools:

Mid-American Christian University (MACU)
PROS: It looks like you get 5cr for Latin - a bonus there!  Every course is named something that's an easy transfer to most schools, so it's probably going to be the best option for everyone.
CONS: PHY1103: Physical Sciences comes in as NATS2103: Environmental Science, which may or may not be an issue for some people.
This school gets top billing because it's the best option for the most number of people; it has every course; and the equivalencies are great.
This school is 1st on my list of 4

Lane College
PROS: All courses except the "cons" ones have good equivalencies
CONS: BIO1303: Intro to Biology comes in as BIO143: Biological Science for Education, which I don't love.  Latin, Chinese and Intro to IT aren't available here
This school is 2nd on my list of 4

Oklahoma Christian University
PROS: It looks like you get 4cr for Chinese, and 5cr for Latin - a bonus there!  All other courses except the "cons" ones have good equivalencies
CONS: ENG2303: Literature & Composition comes in as ENGL-2213: Perspectives in Literature rather than English Comp II, which may be a big issue for many.  HUM1103: Intro to Christianity isn't available.  And the 3 science courses all require you to do the lab before you can get credit; if you don't need a lab, this is an issue. 
This school is 3rd on my list of 4.

Greenville University
PROS: none
CONS: You're required to take both ENG1303: Language & Composition and ENG2303: Literature & Composition to get 3cr for ENGL105: Writing & Critical Inquiry - NO THANKS!  AND, they did not give course number for all of the courses; they seem to have just showed what area the course will work at THEIR school.
This school is 4th on my list of 4. Actually it doesn't even hit 4th - since there is no real reason to use this school, I wouldn't do it.

Thank you for the information.

Did you have any luck transferring in Latin into TESU?

I went to :
https://www.tesu.edu/admissions/transfer-credit

and tried searching for Mid-America Christian University, and I dont see that Latin 1 showing up there as being transferrable. Maybe I'm missing something here.

That tool, like the transfer credit wizards from most schools, only lists things that have been evaluated in the past. If nobody has attempted to transfer that particular course in yet, it will not show up. This does not mean that it will not transfer. TESU generally will accept any RA credit.

If a university has decided to not accept a specific credit, their transfer wizard will typically specify non-credit or developmental/remedial equivalencies. As long as you are not seeing that, you should be good to go.

[thepoetvd776]

With TESU's new policy (90cr max alternative credit, need 30cr RA to get a degree starting 1/1/20), and COSC having this requirement as well, I thought I'd give some info on TEL Learning.

First, they are $67/cr - not the very cheapest RA credits you can find (in-state as some schools will be less, I'm looking at you California) - but they are the cheapest self-paced RA credits you can find.

No UL, unfortunately, but with smart planning, you can use these for your GE and/or Free Electives to get those needed 24cr of RA at COSC and TESU; save your alt-credit for hard-to-find requirements and UL Core/AOS courses!

My DD18 (college freshman) has a long 6-week winter break, but the winter intercession courses are only 4 weeks long, they don't make use of the next 2 weeks she has off, and 1 week at the end (finals) overlaps with a vacation she's taking, so that's not an option for her. The self-paced format will work perfectly for her, since she'll have no other courses to take for the next 5 weeks. She does want to take Bio & Chem as recommended but not required pre-reqs to Intro to Anatomy & Physiology that she'll take next fall.  So she's going to take Bio starting next week, and Chem in the summer.

I've heard some good things about the format and content of a different TEL course, so I'm hoping the quality is good here as well. I'll report back as we go.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Also, there are 4 partner schools you can use to transcribe the credits.  TEL has a page showing the course equivalencies for each school.  This is very important - you want a course to be called something that the receiving school will understand and give you credit where you think it should go easily, no need to fight about it. The only TEL course that won't work is the ENG1100: Intro to Reading & Writing which is deemed pre-English Comp I at all 4 schools. Don't take it.

Here's a breakdown of the issues at the 4 schools:

Mid-American Christian University (MACU)
PROS: It looks like you get 5cr for Latin - a bonus there!  Every course is named something that's an easy transfer to most schools, so it's probably going to be the best option for everyone.
CONS: PHY1103: Physical Sciences comes in as NATS2103: Environmental Science, which may or may not be an issue for some people.
This school gets top billing because it's the best option for the most number of people; it has every course; and the equivalencies are great.
This school is 1st on my list of 4

Lane College
PROS: All courses except the "cons" ones have good equivalencies
CONS: BIO1303: Intro to Biology comes in as BIO143: Biological Science for Education, which I don't love.  Latin, Chinese and Intro to IT aren't available here
This school is 2nd on my list of 4

Oklahoma Christian University
PROS: It looks like you get 4cr for Chinese, and 5cr for Latin - a bonus there!  All other courses except the "cons" ones have good equivalencies
CONS: ENG2303: Literature & Composition comes in as ENGL-2213: Perspectives in Literature rather than English Comp II, which may be a big issue for many.  HUM1103: Intro to Christianity isn't available.  And the 3 science courses all require you to do the lab before you can get credit; if you don't need a lab, this is an issue. 
This school is 3rd on my list of 4.

Greenville University
PROS: none
CONS: You're required to take both ENG1303: Language & Composition and ENG2303: Literature & Composition to get 3cr for ENGL105: Writing & Critical Inquiry - NO THANKS!  AND, they did not give course number for all of the courses; they seem to have just showed what area the course will work at THEIR school.
This school is 4th on my list of 4. Actually it doesn't even hit 4th - since there is no real reason to use this school, I wouldn't do it.

Thank you for the information.

Did you have any luck transferring in Latin into TESU?

I went to :
https://www.tesu.edu/admissions/transfer-credit

and tried searching for Mid-America Christian University, and I dont see that Latin 1 showing up there as being transferrable. Maybe I'm missing something here.

That tool, like the transfer credit wizards from most schools, only lists things that have been evaluated in the past. If nobody has attempted to transfer that particular course in yet, it will not show up. This does not mean that it will not transfer. TESU generally will accept any RA credit.

If a university has decided to not accept a specific credit, their transfer wizard will typically specify non-credit or developmental/remedial equivalencies. As long as you are not seeing that, you should be good to go.

Oh ok got it, but do you know where the credits would apply to?
I'm asking because i'm looking at this page:
https://www.tesu.edu/academics/courses/2...Leadership

and I dont see any spot where Latin 1 or any other language would fall under.

[dfrecore]

With TESU's new policy (90cr max alternative credit, need 30cr RA to get a degree starting 1/1/20), and COSC having this requirement as well, I thought I'd give some info on TEL Learning.

First, they are $67/cr - not the very cheapest RA credits you can find (in-state as some schools will be less, I'm looking at you California) - but they are the cheapest self-paced RA credits you can find.

No UL, unfortunately, but with smart planning, you can use these for your GE and/or Free Electives to get those needed 24cr of RA at COSC and TESU; save your alt-credit for hard-to-find requirements and UL Core/AOS courses!

My DD18 (college freshman) has a long 6-week winter break, but the winter intercession courses are only 4 weeks long, they don't make use of the next 2 weeks she has off, and 1 week at the end (finals) overlaps with a vacation she's taking, so that's not an option for her. The self-paced format will work perfectly for her, since she'll have no other courses to take for the next 5 weeks. She does want to take Bio & Chem as recommended but not required pre-reqs to Intro to Anatomy & Physiology that she'll take next fall.  So she's going to take Bio starting next week, and Chem in the summer.

I've heard some good things about the format and content of a different TEL course, so I'm hoping the quality is good here as well. I'll report back as we go.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Also, there are 4 partner schools you can use to transcribe the credits.  TEL has a page showing the course equivalencies for each school.  This is very important - you want a course to be called something that the receiving school will understand and give you credit where you think it should go easily, no need to fight about it. The only TEL course that won't work is the ENG1100: Intro to Reading & Writing which is deemed pre-English Comp I at all 4 schools. Don't take it.

Here's a breakdown of the issues at the 4 schools:

Mid-American Christian University (MACU)
PROS: It looks like you get 5cr for Latin - a bonus there!  Every course is named something that's an easy transfer to most schools, so it's probably going to be the best option for everyone.
CONS: PHY1103: Physical Sciences comes in as NATS2103: Environmental Science, which may or may not be an issue for some people.
This school gets top billing because it's the best option for the most number of people; it has every course; and the equivalencies are great.
This school is 1st on my list of 4

Lane College
PROS: All courses except the "cons" ones have good equivalencies
CONS: BIO1303: Intro to Biology comes in as BIO143: Biological Science for Education, which I don't love.  Latin, Chinese and Intro to IT aren't available here
This school is 2nd on my list of 4

Oklahoma Christian University
PROS: It looks like you get 4cr for Chinese, and 5cr for Latin - a bonus there!  All other courses except the "cons" ones have good equivalencies
CONS: ENG2303: Literature & Composition comes in as ENGL-2213: Perspectives in Literature rather than English Comp II, which may be a big issue for many.  HUM1103: Intro to Christianity isn't available.  And the 3 science courses all require you to do the lab before you can get credit; if you don't need a lab, this is an issue. 
This school is 3rd on my list of 4.

Greenville University
PROS: none
CONS: You're required to take both ENG1303: Language & Composition and ENG2303: Literature & Composition to get 3cr for ENGL105: Writing & Critical Inquiry - NO THANKS!  AND, they did not give course number for all of the courses; they seem to have just showed what area the course will work at THEIR school.
This school is 4th on my list of 4. Actually it doesn't even hit 4th - since there is no real reason to use this school, I wouldn't do it.

Thank you for the information.

Did you have any luck transferring in Latin into TESU?

I went to :
https://www.tesu.edu/admissions/transfer-credit

and tried searching for Mid-America Christian University, and I dont see that Latin 1 showing up there as being transferrable. Maybe I'm missing something here.

That tool, like the transfer credit wizards from most schools, only lists things that have been evaluated in the past. If nobody has attempted to transfer that particular course in yet, it will not show up. This does not mean that it will not transfer. TESU generally will accept any RA credit.  

If a university has decided to not accept a specific credit, their transfer wizard will typically specify non-credit or developmental/remedial equivalencies. As long as you are not seeing that, you should be good to go.

Oh ok got it, but do you know where the credits would apply to?
I'm asking because i'm looking at this page:
https://www.tesu.edu/academics/courses/2...Leadership

and I dont see any spot where Latin 1 or any other language would fall under.

Latin is a foreign language, so it would fall the same place Spanish falls (listed on your link under Humanities).