Sophia Calculus 1 credit transfer

[nathan$]

Hey guys, I have what I hope is a quick question. I am pursuing a BA in computer science and currently have 78 credits applied, 60 from community college + 18 ACE. Since I have never attended a 4 year school, the max number of credits I can transfer is 90.  The computer science degree says it is 120 credits, but is actually 121 since every class in the degree is 3 credits except calculus 1 which is 4 credits. Looking on My Progress, however, reveals that I really only need 3 credits of calculus. I completed calculus 1 on sophia which says it is worth 4 ACE credits. 

The question I have is, when they transfer it over, will it count as 3 credits of transfer, or 4? The reason I ask is because if it is 4 credits, I will be at 82 credits transferred in and could only bring 2 additional ACE courses, bringing me to 88 credits, but if they only apply 3 of the 4 credits as transfer, I will have 81 and can bring 3 additional courses. I emailed advising last week to ask if an exception could be made which would allow me to transfer 91 credits, since the degree need 121 and I'd still be taking 30 with TESU, and they told me that no exceptions would ever be made regarding maximum transfer credit.

[origamishuttle]

Calculus I transfers as 4 credits, but sometimes they make a mistake that you need to have them correct (I had it transfer as 3 credits originally). However, you can transfer everything for the BACS except the capstone, so 117 credits, assuming you also transfer the cornerstone from edX, or 114 credits if you take it at TESU. Follow the degree plan for max transfers from Sophia and Study.com, and you'll be all set. Best of luck!

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I should explain, you're probably confused about the 90 credit transfer limit from a single source, such as all ACE/NCCRS credits (considered a single non-collegiate source) or a single college. You have 60 credits from community college, so if they all apply toward your degree, you can have up to 54 or 57 credits (depending on if you transfer the cornerstone and how they view edX) from alternate credit providers like Sophia and Study.com.

[nathan$]

Calculus I transfers as 4 credits, but sometimes they make a mistake that you need to have them correct (I had it transfer as 3 credits originally). However, you can transfer everything for the BACS except the capstone, so 117 credits, assuming you also transfer the cornerstone from edX, or 114 credits if you take it at TESU. Follow the degree plan for max transfers from Sophia and Study.com, and you'll be all set. Best of luck!

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I should explain, you're probably confused about the 90 credit transfer limit from a single source, such as all ACE/NCCRS credits (considered a single non-collegiate source) or a single college. You have 60 credits from community college, so if they all apply toward your degree, you can have up to 54 or 57 credits (depending on if you transfer the cornerstone and how they view edX) from alternate credit providers like Sophia and Study.com.

Thanks for your response.  Are you certain that the transfer policy is 90 credits from a single source, and not 90 credits total?  I saw this on TESU's website:

• If you studied at an accepted institutionally accredited community college, you may transfer and apply up to 90 credits.
  
• If you studied at an accepted institutionally accredited four-year institution, you may fulfill all your degree requirements with transfer credit except the two required courses from TESU:
  • SOS-1100: Fact, Fiction, or Fake? Information Literacy Today
    
  • Capstone Course
    
• If you have studied at more than one institution, we can accept your credits, provided the institutions have an accepted institutional accreditation.
  

I have never studied at a 4-year institution so I took that to mean that I could only apply 90 credits total.  This is especially confusing because an advisor told me just last week that the 90 credit maximum transfer can never be exceeded.  If I really could bring in over 90 credits total, that would drastically change my current plan of attack!

[jg_nuy]

The limits are individual and separate. Only two classes are mandatory at TESU & if you are only doing the BACS, you can even transfer in the literacy class via EDX. You need a minimum of 30 RA credits, but they don’t have be from TESU.

Source - my son goes to TESU.

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You cannot do more than 90 ACE/NCCRS credits on a single degree, but each degree has its separate individual limit if you’re doing more than one degree.

[bjcheung77]

Welcome to the board, you may also want to fill in the addendum and template, link us to your degree plan spreadsheet as a viewable (not editable) file. We can recommend further changes to your degree plan if needed. You only have 90 credits transferable to the degree, you can transfer more to TESU, but only those can be used towards the degree. No exceptions can be made, 30 credits are RA, doesn't have to come from TESU, but I would recommend doing the flat rate to get 15 credits, you can either do 15 credits through TECEPs or from cheap community college options... Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...Area-works

[LevelUP]

Calculus I transfers as 4 credits, but sometimes they make a mistake that you need to have them correct (I had it transfer as 3 credits originally). However, you can transfer everything for the BACS except the capstone, so 117 credits, assuming you also transfer the cornerstone from edX, or 114 credits if you take it at TESU. Follow the degree plan for max transfers from Sophia and Study.com, and you'll be all set. Best of luck!

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I should explain, you're probably confused about the 90 credit transfer limit from a single source, such as all ACE/NCCRS credits (considered a single non-collegiate source) or a single college. You have 60 credits from community college, so if they all apply toward your degree, you can have up to 54 or 57 credits (depending on if you transfer the cornerstone and how they view edX) from alternate credit providers like Sophia and Study.com.

Thanks for your response.  Are you certain that the transfer policy is 90 credits from a single source, and not 90 credits total?  I saw this on TESU's website:

• If you studied at an accepted institutionally accredited community college, you may transfer and apply up to 90 credits.
  
• If you studied at an accepted institutionally accredited four-year institution, you may fulfill all your degree requirements with transfer credit except the two required courses from TESU:
  • SOS-1100: Fact, Fiction, or Fake? Information Literacy Today
    
  • Capstone Course
    
• If you have studied at more than one institution, we can accept your credits, provided the institutions have an accepted institutional accreditation.
  

I have never studied at a 4-year institution so I took that to mean that I could only apply 90 credits total.  This is especially confusing because an advisor told me just last week that the 90 credit maximum transfer can never be exceeded.  If I really could bring in over 90 credits total, that would drastically change my current plan of attack!

TESU requires at least 30 RA (Regionally Accredited) credits for their degrees, which you’ve already met by transferring 60 credits from your community college.

You can transfer in a maximum of 90 alternative credits, including ACE/NCCRS credits. Since you already have 60 community college credits, you could bring in 90 alternative credits, totaling 150 credits—far more than necessary to meet the degree requirements. (All these courses will appear on your transcript, even if they aren’t part of your degree requirement.)

TESU doesn’t require you to hit exactly 120 credits, so there’s no need to worry about exceeding that number.
If you take the edX course for $500, the only course you’ll need to complete at TESU is the capstone.

[nathan$]

Wow, I wish I had posted here sooner, you guys just saved me a lot of effort and money!  Thank you!! I had developed my plan using info from this site and elsewhere but my misunderstanding of the transfer policy cost me some time and money already I see now.  I am already enrolled at TESU and was going to take 27 credits there + 3 or 6 more in TECEPs. Knowing what I now know, here's what my plan would be:

Your Location: Wilmington, North Carolina
Your Age: 35
What kind of degree do you want?: Bachelors in Computer Science
Current Regional Accredited Credits: 152 Community college credits - 2 associates degrees (Automotive Electronics Technology, Accounting)
Current ACE, CLEP, or NCCRS Credits: 25 (18 transferred so far plus 7 completed but not yet transferred)
Any certifications or military experience?: Automotive certifications, nothing relevant
Budget: <$10k hopefully
Commitments: Small business owner, currently ~2-4 hr/wk avg but working on securing a contract which would be a 40+ hrs/wk commitment
Dedicated time to study: 10-12 hrs/day, 7 days a week
Timeline: ASAP
Tuition assistance/reimbursement: Federal student loan

Here's where I'm at so far:
78 credits transferred
4 credits - Sophia - Calculus 1 (completed but not yet transferred)
3 credits - Study.com - Programming in C++ (completed but not yet transferred)
85 Credits completed

In progress:
3 credits - TESU - December 2024 - Operating Systems
3 credits - TESU - December 2024 - Computer Architecture
3 credits - TESU - December 2024 - Data structures
3 credits - TESU - December 2024 - Systems Analysis & design
3 credits - TESU - December 2024 - Information Literacy
3 credits - TECEP - January 2025 - Writing for success 2
18 credits in progress - total after completion = 103

Still to do:
3 credits - Study.com - Discrete Math
3 credits - Study.com - Database Management
3 credits - Study.com - Management information systems
3 credits - Study.com - Presentation skills in the workplace
3 credits - TESU - March 2025 - Software Engineering
3 credits - TESU - March 2025 - Liberal Arts Capstone
18 credits to do - total after completion = 121

Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...sp=sharing

[origamishuttle]

In progress:
3 credits - TESU - December 2024 - Operating Systems
3 credits - TESU - December 2024 - Computer Architecture
3 credits - TESU - December 2024 - Data structures
3 credits - TESU - December 2024 - Systems Analysis & design
3 credits - TESU - December 2024 - Information Literacy
3 credits - TECEP - January 2025 - Writing for success 2
18 credits in progress - total after completion = 103

That's intense! I hope things are going well. On the bright side, you won't have to pay the residency waiver fee.

Is there any possibility that you can still withdraw from one of the more difficult courses to lighten your load, then just transfer it from Study.com?

Still to do:
3 credits - Study.com - Discrete Math
3 credits - Study.com - Database Management
3 credits - Study.com - Management information systems
3 credits - Study.com - Presentation skills in the workplace
3 credits - TESU - March 2025 - Software Engineering
3 credits - TESU - March 2025 - Liberal Arts Capstone
18 credits to do - total after completion = 121

Have you thought about taking the Saylor Software Engineering exam instead? You can attempt it up to three times with a two-week wait in between each attempt.

[bjcheung77]

Hmm, Basically... Since you've completed your residency requirements for this one degree, you can throw in another degree (plus 2 associates, and X certificates). To get your money's worth, finish all the requirements for your BACS but don't graduate yet... I suggest you do all the Sophia.org, Study.com requirements of the BSBA with an AOS of choice, along with the AS Math & AAS... Your ASCS is already complete, your AS Math should also be complete as one degree, or the AA, ASBA is complete when you finish the BSBA. Then you'll only have 1 graduate fee to pay for all 4 degrees and X certificates.

Associates: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...gree_Plans
Certificates: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...cate_Plans

[nathan$]

That's intense! I hope things are going well. On the bright side, you won't have to pay the residency waiver fee.

Is there any possibility that you can still withdraw from one of the more difficult courses to lighten your load, then just transfer it from Study.com?



Have you thought about taking the Saylor Software Engineering exam instead? You can attempt it up to three times with a two-week wait in between each attempt

The 15 credit term at TESU is way more work than I had anticipated, but I'm more than halfway through now so I'll likely suffer through to the end now.  I just took midterms this week, and really wanted to complete this degree with a >3.5 GPA, so maybe if my grade in a class is especially low, it might look less bad on a transcript to take a W and then take it through study.com instead of getting a C.  I'll wait until grades come back to decide on that though.

bjcheung77

Hmm, Basically... Since you've completed your residency requirements for this one degree, you can throw in another degree (plus 2 associates, and X certificates). To get your money's worth, finish all the requirements for your BACS but don't graduate yet... I suggest you do all the Sophia.org, Study.com requirements of the BSBA with an AOS of choice, along with the AS Math & AAS... Your ASCS is already complete, your AS Math should also be complete as one degree, or the AA, ASBA is complete when you finish the BSBA. Then you'll only have 1 graduate fee to pay for all 4 degrees and X certificates.

Associates: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...gree_Plans
Certificates: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...cate_Plans

Wow, I hadn't even considered trying to get additional degrees/certs as well.  It definitely seems like I've got all the requirements for the ASCS and possibly AS mathematics, though I looked at that one through the my progress at TESU and I might be one credit short on the AOS math electives.  I think I'm only 2 courses shy of an AS in Business Administration as well. You're suggesting I complete a second bachelor's though as well? I looked through several of their BSBA programs and all look like they require a different capstone, the business administration capstone, compared to the liberal arts capstone that I would be taking.  If I could just take a handful of study.com/sophia courses and get a second bachelor's that would be worth it, but I don't want to add significant time to completion and I don't see any other bachelor's degrees which I would be very close to completing.  If you had any suggestions though, I'd certainly look into it.  Thank you very much for your help!