Should I grab a free associates degree if graduating same major bachelor degree?

[rachel83az]

I think you need to have the degree(s) added to your plan ASAP in order to request graduation. It is a separate form, yes.

[bjcheung77]

@jsarles, I got your PM.  If you don't have an associates already, then sure, I would go for it as there is no extra energy, money, or time you need to get the Associates...  If you have an associates in addition to your BSBA from 2019, then it's redundant to have a second associates in the same subject as your current Bachelors.  It really won't add anything to your BACS... but I say, go for it!

The main reason I suggest having it is that it'll show you've laddered into that degree.  Example, ASBA to a BSBA, ASNSM Comp Sci to a BACS... You may want to consider looking at certs that you may have enough credits for instead.  Example, an associates in CS vs cert in CS - associates are always lower level courses, certs may contain upper level courses, you can "leverage" a cert more than an associates.

A board member eriehiker (a teacher) had a Bachelors and a Masters before he stumbled upon this site.  He posted a battle between either an ASNSM CS or Math, because he did not have an associates and his previous Bachelors/Masters were in a liberal arts, I advised him to get both.  In addition, he graduated with a BSBA Accounting/CIS dual AOS.  

The kicker is, he added 4 certificates just because he was "so very close" to these in Finance, Marketing, Organizational Leadership, Operations Management.   What I am saying is, you need to know if that Associates or Cert is going to add value to your credentials, paying slightly more to complete these would get him in the door to Finance, Marketing, etc...

Here's another member supermind (a health/wellness consultant) started off looking for a BA Psychology.  He ended up with an ASNSM Math, BALS Psych concentration (cert in Psychology should be included for this AOS), and finished with an MS Psych.  The ASNSM in Math is practically free as he didn't need to take any extra courses and graduated with it at the same time.

[jsarles]

Thanks for the advice and the support guys!

I think I'll take your advice on the ANSM computer science
I've reached out to academic advising to add ANSM computer science and ANSM Math as academic evaluations for me.
Hopefully they will be able to add them quickly so I can apply for graduation for those and then get in all my transcripts by the Feb 1st deadline

---

Thanks for the advice and the support guys!

I think I'll take your advice on the ANSM computer science
I've reached out to academic advising to add ANSM computer science and ANSM Math as academic evaluations for me.
Hopefully they will be able to add them quickly so I can apply for graduation for those and then get in all my transcripts by the Feb 1st deadline

I like the idea of the ANSM Math focus, 
It would be 3 extra classes possibly, but I think it would look good to have a math degree even if it's just an associates in natural science and mathematics. 
It sounds pretty close to a math minor

---

I wouldn't bother with Liberal Studies. Either get another subject degree (which you don't want to do) or just go for your comp sci degree.

Depending on what math you've already done, either CSM Learn or Applied Liberal Studies Math TECEP would fulfill the quantitative literacy requirement. I would do both, then an easy math from SDC: Math 101 (which comes in as Intermediate Algebra, not College Algebra), Math 103 Precalculus, or Business 110: Business Math. All of these should be super easy if you've already gone through Calculus!

https://study.com/college/school/thomas-...rsity.html

Do you know what class CSM learn is equivalent to? 
As long as it's not math credit then I should be able to 
do SDC 101 
and SDC 102 
and then I would have the 4 math credits i need plus the quant reqiurement

---

Thanks for the advice and the support guys!

I think I'll take your advice on the ANSM computer science
I've reached out to academic advising to add ANSM computer science and ANSM Math as academic evaluations for me.
Hopefully they will be able to add them quickly so I can apply for graduation for those and then get in all my transcripts by the Feb 1st deadline

---

Thanks for the advice and the support guys!

I think I'll take your advice on the ANSM computer science
I've reached out to academic advising to add ANSM computer science and ANSM Math as academic evaluations for me.
Hopefully they will be able to add them quickly so I can apply for graduation for those and then get in all my transcripts by the Feb 1st deadline

I like the idea of the ANSM Math focus, 
It would be 3 extra classes possibly, but I think it would look good to have a math degree even if it's just an associates in natural science and mathematics. 
It sounds pretty close to a math minor

---

I wouldn't bother with Liberal Studies. Either get another subject degree (which you don't want to do) or just go for your comp sci degree.

Depending on what math you've already done, either CSM Learn or Applied Liberal Studies Math TECEP would fulfill the quantitative literacy requirement. I would do both, then an easy math from SDC: Math 101 (which comes in as Intermediate Algebra, not College Algebra), Math 103 Precalculus, or Business 110: Business Math. All of these should be super easy if you've already gone through Calculus!

https://study.com/college/school/thomas-...rsity.html

Do you know what class CSM learn is equivalent to? 
As long as it's not math credit then I should be able to 
do SDC 101 
and SDC 102 
and then I would have the 4 math credits i need plus the quant reqiurement

Sorry I googled it and it looks like it comes in as 210 Business decision making. 
Which actually makes me want to look if that qualifies me for another major lol
I was missing 210 for a bunch of areas of study

---

Thanks for the advice and the support guys!

I think I'll take your advice on the ANSM computer science
I've reached out to academic advising to add ANSM computer science and ANSM Math as academic evaluations for me.
Hopefully they will be able to add them quickly so I can apply for graduation for those and then get in all my transcripts by the Feb 1st deadline

---

Thanks for the advice and the support guys!

I think I'll take your advice on the ANSM computer science
I've reached out to academic advising to add ANSM computer science and ANSM Math as academic evaluations for me.
Hopefully they will be able to add them quickly so I can apply for graduation for those and then get in all my transcripts by the Feb 1st deadline

I like the idea of the ANSM Math focus, 
It would be 3 extra classes possibly, but I think it would look good to have a math degree even if it's just an associates in natural science and mathematics. 
It sounds pretty close to a math minor

---

I wouldn't bother with Liberal Studies. Either get another subject degree (which you don't want to do) or just go for your comp sci degree.

Depending on what math you've already done, either CSM Learn or Applied Liberal Studies Math TECEP would fulfill the quantitative literacy requirement. I would do both, then an easy math from SDC: Math 101 (which comes in as Intermediate Algebra, not College Algebra), Math 103 Precalculus, or Business 110: Business Math. All of these should be super easy if you've already gone through Calculus!

https://study.com/college/school/thomas-...rsity.html

Do you know what class CSM learn is equivalent to? 
As long as it's not math credit then I should be able to 
do SDC 101 
and SDC 102 
and then I would have the 4 math credits i need plus the quant reqiurement

---

Thanks for the advice and the support guys!

I think I'll take your advice on the ANSM computer science
I've reached out to academic advising to add ANSM computer science and ANSM Math as academic evaluations for me.
Hopefully they will be able to add them quickly so I can apply for graduation for those and then get in all my transcripts by the Feb 1st deadline

---

Thanks for the advice and the support guys!

I think I'll take your advice on the ANSM computer science
I've reached out to academic advising to add ANSM computer science and ANSM Math as academic evaluations for me.
Hopefully they will be able to add them quickly so I can apply for graduation for those and then get in all my transcripts by the Feb 1st deadline

I like the idea of the ANSM Math focus, 
It would be 3 extra classes possibly, but I think it would look good to have a math degree even if it's just an associates in natural science and mathematics. 
It sounds pretty close to a math minor

---

I wouldn't bother with Liberal Studies. Either get another subject degree (which you don't want to do) or just go for your comp sci degree.

Depending on what math you've already done, either CSM Learn or Applied Liberal Studies Math TECEP would fulfill the quantitative literacy requirement. I would do both, then an easy math from SDC: Math 101 (which comes in as Intermediate Algebra, not College Algebra), Math 103 Precalculus, or Business 110: Business Math. All of these should be super easy if you've already gone through Calculus!

https://study.com/college/school/thomas-...rsity.html

Do you know what class CSM learn is equivalent to? 
As long as it's not math credit then I should be able to 
do SDC 101 
and SDC 102 
and then I would have the 4 math credits i need plus the quant requirement

Sorry I googled it and it looks like it comes in as 210 Business decision making. 
Which actually makes me want to look if that qualifies me for another major lol
I was missing 210 for a bunch of areas of study

Also does TESU have any rules against taking lower level maths than you've already taken? 
because I have Calculus and College Algebra, Discrete math ,

---

Thanks for the advice and the support guys!

I think I'll take your advice on the ANSM computer science
I've reached out to academic advising to add ANSM computer science and ANSM Math as academic evaluations for me.
Hopefully they will be able to add them quickly so I can apply for graduation for those and then get in all my transcripts by the Feb 1st deadline

---

Thanks for the advice and the support guys!

I think I'll take your advice on the ANSM computer science
I've reached out to academic advising to add ANSM computer science and ANSM Math as academic evaluations for me.
Hopefully they will be able to add them quickly so I can apply for graduation for those and then get in all my transcripts by the Feb 1st deadline

I like the idea of the ANSM Math focus, 
It would be 3 extra classes possibly, but I think it would look good to have a math degree even if it's just an associates in natural science and mathematics. 
It sounds pretty close to a math minor

---

I wouldn't bother with Liberal Studies. Either get another subject degree (which you don't want to do) or just go for your comp sci degree.

Depending on what math you've already done, either CSM Learn or Applied Liberal Studies Math TECEP would fulfill the quantitative literacy requirement. I would do both, then an easy math from SDC: Math 101 (which comes in as Intermediate Algebra, not College Algebra), Math 103 Precalculus, or Business 110: Business Math. All of these should be super easy if you've already gone through Calculus!

https://study.com/college/school/thomas-...rsity.html

Do you know what class CSM learn is equivalent to? 
As long as it's not math credit then I should be able to 
do SDC 101 
and SDC 102 
and then I would have the 4 math credits i need plus the quant reqiurement

---

Thanks for the advice and the support guys!

I think I'll take your advice on the ANSM computer science
I've reached out to academic advising to add ANSM computer science and ANSM Math as academic evaluations for me.
Hopefully they will be able to add them quickly so I can apply for graduation for those and then get in all my transcripts by the Feb 1st deadline

---

Thanks for the advice and the support guys!

I think I'll take your advice on the ANSM computer science
I've reached out to academic advising to add ANSM computer science and ANSM Math as academic evaluations for me.
Hopefully they will be able to add them quickly so I can apply for graduation for those and then get in all my transcripts by the Feb 1st deadline

I like the idea of the ANSM Math focus, 
It would be 3 extra classes possibly, but I think it would look good to have a math degree even if it's just an associates in natural science and mathematics. 
It sounds pretty close to a math minor

---

I wouldn't bother with Liberal Studies. Either get another subject degree (which you don't want to do) or just go for your comp sci degree.

Depending on what math you've already done, either CSM Learn or Applied Liberal Studies Math TECEP would fulfill the quantitative literacy requirement. I would do both, then an easy math from SDC: Math 101 (which comes in as Intermediate Algebra, not College Algebra), Math 103 Precalculus, or Business 110: Business Math. All of these should be super easy if you've already gone through Calculus!

https://study.com/college/school/thomas-...rsity.html

Do you know what class CSM learn is equivalent to? 
As long as it's not math credit then I should be able to 
do SDC 101 
and SDC 102 
and then I would have the 4 math credits i need plus the quant reqiurement

Sorry I googled it and it looks like it comes in as 210 Business decision making. 
Which actually makes me want to look if that qualifies me for another major lol
I was missing 210 for a bunch of areas of study

---

Thanks for the advice and the support guys!

I think I'll take your advice on the ANSM computer science
I've reached out to academic advising to add ANSM computer science and ANSM Math as academic evaluations for me.
Hopefully they will be able to add them quickly so I can apply for graduation for those and then get in all my transcripts by the Feb 1st deadline

---

Thanks for the advice and the support guys!

I think I'll take your advice on the ANSM computer science
I've reached out to academic advising to add ANSM computer science and ANSM Math as academic evaluations for me.
Hopefully they will be able to add them quickly so I can apply for graduation for those and then get in all my transcripts by the Feb 1st deadline

I like the idea of the ANSM Math focus, 
It would be 3 extra classes possibly, but I think it would look good to have a math degree even if it's just an associates in natural science and mathematics. 
It sounds pretty close to a math minor

---

I wouldn't bother with Liberal Studies. Either get another subject degree (which you don't want to do) or just go for your comp sci degree.

Depending on what math you've already done, either CSM Learn or Applied Liberal Studies Math TECEP would fulfill the quantitative literacy requirement. I would do both, then an easy math from SDC: Math 101 (which comes in as Intermediate Algebra, not College Algebra), Math 103 Precalculus, or Business 110: Business Math. All of these should be super easy if you've already gone through Calculus!

https://study.com/college/school/thomas-...rsity.html

Do you know what class CSM learn is equivalent to? 
As long as it's not math credit then I should be able to 
do SDC 101 
and SDC 102 
and then I would have the 4 math credits i need plus the quant reqiurement

---

Thanks for the advice and the support guys!

I think I'll take your advice on the ANSM computer science
I've reached out to academic advising to add ANSM computer science and ANSM Math as academic evaluations for me.
Hopefully they will be able to add them quickly so I can apply for graduation for those and then get in all my transcripts by the Feb 1st deadline

---

Thanks for the advice and the support guys!

I think I'll take your advice on the ANSM computer science
I've reached out to academic advising to add ANSM computer science and ANSM Math as academic evaluations for me.
Hopefully they will be able to add them quickly so I can apply for graduation for those and then get in all my transcripts by the Feb 1st deadline

I like the idea of the ANSM Math focus, 
It would be 3 extra classes possibly, but I think it would look good to have a math degree even if it's just an associates in natural science and mathematics. 
It sounds pretty close to a math minor

---

I wouldn't bother with Liberal Studies. Either get another subject degree (which you don't want to do) or just go for your comp sci degree.

Depending on what math you've already done, either CSM Learn or Applied Liberal Studies Math TECEP would fulfill the quantitative literacy requirement. I would do both, then an easy math from SDC: Math 101 (which comes in as Intermediate Algebra, not College Algebra), Math 103 Precalculus, or Business 110: Business Math. All of these should be super easy if you've already gone through Calculus!

https://study.com/college/school/thomas-...rsity.html

Do you know what class CSM learn is equivalent to? 
As long as it's not math credit then I should be able to 
do SDC 101 
and SDC 102 
and then I would have the 4 math credits i need plus the quant requirement

Sorry I googled it and it looks like it comes in as 210 Business decision making. 
Which actually makes me want to look if that qualifies me for another major lol
I was missing 210 for a bunch of areas of study

Also does TESU have any rules against taking lower level maths than you've already taken? 
because I have Calculus and College Algebra, Discrete math ,

So it looks like If I took Business 210 I could get BSBA in Computer Information Systems (BSBA.CIS1)

[rachel83az]

TESU doesn't have rules against taking courses lower than what you've already completed. Bringing in lower level maths should be no problem.

Also, since you already graduated with one business degree, you cannot now get a BSBA CIS and a BA CS because that would count as three degrees. I think it's silly, but they make the rules and not me.

[jsarles]

TESU doesn't have rules against taking courses lower than what you've already completed. Bringing in lower level maths should be no problem.

Also, since you already graduated with one business degree, you cannot now get a BSBA CIS and a BA CS because that would count as three degrees. I think it's silly, but they make the rules and not me.

Ahh C'est la vie. 

Thanks for saving me an awkard conversation with academic advising

[bjcheung77]

So it looks like If I took Business 210 I could get BSBA in Computer Information Systems (BSBA.CIS1)

Wow, that's repeated a few times! What happened to that post? Anyways, you can't get a BSBA CIS anymore, but you can get the certificate in CIS along with your degree. So, it'll be an ASNSM CS & Math, plus the Cert in CIS and CS if you wanted them...

[jsarles]

So it looks like If I took Business 210 I could get BSBA in Computer Information Systems (BSBA.CIS1)

Wow, that's repeated a few times!  What happened to that post?  Anyways, you can't get a BSBA CIS anymore, but you can get the certificate in CIS along with your degree.  So, it'll be an ASNSM CS & Math, plus the Cert in CIS and CS if you wanted them...

Hi so they said I can't get an ANSM in math and Computer science? 
Any ideas about what that is about?
I hope you're doing well. Students cannot pursue two areas of study in an associate's degree. You would have to choose one. Also, please review the policy below regarding earning an associate's degree after earning a bachelor's degree.

 

---

I would take the ASNSM, sure. You should also check how close you are to an ASNSM Math. You might be able to add a second AOS to the ASNSM without any additional classes. Or maybe by doing either CSM Learn or the Applied Liberal Arts Math TECEP. I know you said you don't want to do any more classes, but adding a Math ASNSM for just a few extra hours of work seems to be a no-brainer to me!

So how did you get two areas of study from academic advising?

[rachel83az]

Weird. I asked them to add both to my degree plan, saying I would pick one later. The response was essentially "Oh, no, you can have two AOS. It's fine." I think someone did CS and Biology at one point.

If you can only pick one for some reason, I'd do math.

[jch]

I'm currently enrolled in both the ASNSM CS and ASNSM Mathematics under last year's catalog. I just emailed academicadvising@tesu.edu requesting to change my degree plan and add both. They did it with no issue.

[LevelUP]

I have both ASN math and ASN Computer Science added to my degree plan.  I added the AS math back in Dec. 2020.

Then I also have BA CS and BSBA CIS.