Outlier Launches Associate Degrees

[msa145]

Note on transfer: it looks like they limit non accredited transfer(military, work, certificates, etc.) Would be limited to 12. I'm guess ACE, if they accept it, would be included in that limit.

I didn't find a transfer policy on this in the current catalog. Is it somewhere else on their site?

Posting here since my post in the other thread isn't showing up)

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0406/8...1662501229

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0406/8...1662501227

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0406/8...1662501227

Links to brochures for the 3 degrees. These show what certificates you can choose from for each program and what courses are included(hint: some courses like calculus 2, computer science 1/2, managerial accounting, and professional communication are planned for release in time for their corresponding semester).  

Could be a good opportunity for someone who is already collecting mostly RA credits and doesn't have many other local/flexible CC options for an associates degree. If one maximized transfer credits and only needed the final 15 through outlier/GGU, they'd pay $149 * 15 = $2235. Having the CS 1/2, calc 1/2, and accounting courses as potential RA options could be beneficial for some. Also, application is free.

Note on transfer: it looks like they limit non accredited transfer(military, work, certificates, etc.) Would be limited to 12. I'm guess ACE, if they accept it, would be included in that limit.

I'm currently taking four classes through outlier and saw this drop today. My original plan was to finish and then apply those credits to WGU but I have to admit, I have really enjoyed the experience on outlier and I'm tempted to postpone WGU and get the AS for applied computer science through them.

But if what you say is true, specifically, that computer science I/II, Calculus II, won't be ready for a while, that would mean too much of a delay for me I think, I already have an english I credit from a community college and I'm currently taking precalculus intro to business, intro to philosophy, and intro to statistics through them, plus I've already completed a number of ace credits through sophia(only being able to transfer in 12 is another downside for my situation). 

Jealous of any first time students who gets to take advantage of this program though! 
Seems like a step in the right direction!

 What advantage does the first time students have specifically?

[MNomadic]

I'm currently taking four classes through outlier and saw this drop today. My original plan was to finish and then apply those credits to WGU but I have to admit, I have really enjoyed the experience on outlier and I'm tempted to postpone WGU and get the AS for applied computer science through them.

But if what you say is true, specifically, that computer science I/II, Calculus II, won't be ready for a while, that would mean too much of a delay for me I think, I already have an english I credit from a community college and I'm currently taking precalculus intro to business, intro to philosophy, and intro to statistics through them, plus I've already completed a number of ace credits through sophia(only being able to transfer in 12 is another downside for my situation). 

Jealous of any first time students who gets to take advantage of this program though! 
Seems like a step in the right direction!

Just to clarify, we don't know when those courses will be ready, only that they claim they'll be ready in time for the corresponding semesters listed in the brochure. They could come out in the next few months or only exactly when they're needed.

You could go ahead and apply for the AS Applied Computing degree for free, see how everything transfers and make your decision later. The degree does intrigue me. 

As a side note: I haven't been able to read any recent reviews of outlier courses or talk to recent students. How do you like your courses and why do you like them? How are they structured?

[bjcheung77]

Note: Restrictions on the following States and Territories. The fine print on the FAQ's: Am I eligible for Degrees+?

All US students age 13 or older with a high school diploma or equivalent (GED, CHSPE) are eligible to apply, except for residents of: Alabama, Arkansas, D.C., Delaware, Georgia, Maryland, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Rhode Island, Wisconsin, US Commonwealths (Puerto Rico, Upper Mariana Islands), and US Territories (Guam, American Samoa, US Virgin Islands). We also welcome international students (with TOEFL or equivalent).

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[dfrecore]

GGU used to take 90cr of transfer for their bachelor's degrees, so not sure why they're limiting things to 12cr with this particular program?

The GGU Aspire program (partnering with Study.com) is $300/cr x 30cr = $9,000 - and then they assume that it will be another $6,000 for Study.com courses if you were starting at 0 credits. So 2 courses/mo x 15mo = 30 courses = 90cr, and it would be $3000 for that. Not sure where the other $3k comes from.

[thekinglywe]

Note on transfer: it looks like they limit non accredited transfer(military, work, certificates, etc.) Would be limited to 12. I'm guess ACE, if they accept it, would be included in that limit.

I didn't find a transfer policy on this in the current catalog. Is it somewhere else on their site?

Posting here since my post in the other thread isn't showing up)

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0406/8...1662501229

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0406/8...1662501227

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0406/8...1662501227

Links to brochures for the 3 degrees. These show what certificates you can choose from for each program and what courses are included(hint: some courses like calculus 2, computer science 1/2, managerial accounting, and professional communication are planned for release in time for their corresponding semester).  

Could be a good opportunity for someone who is already collecting mostly RA credits and doesn't have many other local/flexible CC options for an associates degree. If one maximized transfer credits and only needed the final 15 through outlier/GGU, they'd pay $149 * 15 = $2235. Having the CS 1/2, calc 1/2, and accounting courses as potential RA options could be beneficial for some. Also, application is free.

Note on transfer: it looks like they limit non accredited transfer(military, work, certificates, etc.) Would be limited to 12. I'm guess ACE, if they accept it, would be included in that limit.

I'm currently taking four classes through outlier and saw this drop today. My original plan was to finish and then apply those credits to WGU but I have to admit, I have really enjoyed the experience on outlier and I'm tempted to postpone WGU and get the AS for applied computer science through them.

But if what you say is true, specifically, that computer science I/II, Calculus II, won't be ready for a while, that would mean too much of a delay for me I think, I already have an english I credit from a community college and I'm currently taking precalculus intro to business, intro to philosophy, and intro to statistics through them, plus I've already completed a number of ace credits through sophia(only being able to transfer in 12 is another downside for my situation). 

Jealous of any first time students who gets to take advantage of this program though! 
Seems like a step in the right direction!

 What advantage does the first time students have specifically?

Not an advantage, I just mean that they could focus their energy on outlier and not spend time on getting more ace credits than they need to, I've already dedicated too much time to ace credits to not be able to transfer more than 12. I did apply though just to see what will transfer/the details of the degree program. One very tempting thing is that I'm relatively close to the college and could take bart, haven't looked up the exact commute time but my cousin got his bachelors in computer science from GGU.

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I'm currently taking four classes through outlier and saw this drop today. My original plan was to finish and then apply those credits to WGU but I have to admit, I have really enjoyed the experience on outlier and I'm tempted to postpone WGU and get the AS for applied computer science through them.

But if what you say is true, specifically, that computer science I/II, Calculus II, won't be ready for a while, that would mean too much of a delay for me I think, I already have an english I credit from a community college and I'm currently taking precalculus intro to business, intro to philosophy, and intro to statistics through them, plus I've already completed a number of ace credits through sophia(only being able to transfer in 12 is another downside for my situation). 

Jealous of any first time students who gets to take advantage of this program though! 
Seems like a step in the right direction!

Just to clarify, we don't know when those courses will be ready, only that they claim they'll be ready in time for the corresponding semesters listed in the brochure. They could come out in the next few months or only exactly when they're needed.

You could go ahead and apply for the AS Applied Computing degree for free, see how everything transfers and make your decision later. The degree does intrigue me. 

As a side note: I haven't been able to read any recent reviews of outlier courses or talk to recent students. How do you like your courses and why do you like them? How are they structured?

I agree, I did apply just to see where I would stand, another benefit to me is that GGU is relatively close to me and I could ride BART for my classes once I completed the program and start my bachelors.

Overall I've been happy with outlier, my opinion might be influenced by getting them for free through amazon though. I do wish there were more practice materials for the precalculus class, I've had to search out problems myself to feel confident in my understanding of the material. I've found their proctoring to be painless, but to be fair, I haven't taken online classes anywhere else but outlier and sophia so my experience is limited. I've only read horror stories about terrible proctors which is a big part of why I wouldn't mind continuing with outlier(I suffer from test anxiety).

[Pikachu]

I'm currently taking four classes through outlier and saw this drop today. My original plan was to finish and then apply those credits to WGU but I have to admit, I have really enjoyed the experience on outlier and I'm tempted to postpone WGU and get the AS for applied computer science through them.

Have you taken any exams yet? I'm wondering about the grading for Outlier courses - is scoring a high GPA doable?

[cardiacclep]

Looks like Outlier has partnered with Golden Gate University to launch 3 associates degree at $149 per credit hour. There are 3 associates degrees currently listed currently. It looks like a combination of Outlier courses and Google/Meta career certs making up the bulk of the degree. The website states GGU will accept up to 45 credit hours....not sure if that means the rest need to be done at GGU? GGU seems really steep in tuition so maybe not worth it if GGU makes the student jump through hope at GGU or the $149 per credit is not honored. 



Outlier: https://www.outlier.org/products/degree-...nistration


GGG tuition:    https://www.ggu.edu/admissions/undergrad...-and-fees/

[MNomadic]

Here's another thread on it:

https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...te-Degrees

If you scroll down a bit there's links to brochures for the degrees which include the complete degree plans.

Also, there's some info in the other Outlier specific thread as well.

[dfrecore]

GGU is only charging $149/cr (and they do require 25% residency).

I wish they'd be really clear on their requirements, since they have drastically cut back on what they'll accept from Study.com (they have the Aspire program which is $300/cr and you used to be able to bring in 90cr from SDC).

[dfrecore]

I would probably apply and see what happens with all those ACE credits; nothing is lost from doing it.