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Online Engineering Choice
#21
Easy guys! no need for all the fighting!

@bjcheung77 gracias will do...I guess I'll do the CS and Math degree...even though I'm practically done with the BALS...and it's not what I want...this is delayed gratification in practice..I think I'll also do the penn foster degree on the side..with those low monthly payments, I'll have my mind at ease that I'm at least studying what I want...along with mit ocw and some free cousera courses..

@decimon yeah I know, I checked up stuff on ebay and that together with stuff I have as well could have lowered the cost if I was going that route, but I'll take bjcheung77's advice

@sanantone thanks for your help!

Getting an online ABET EE degree is nearly impossible for an international student unless you have a lot of time and resources....
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BA Liberal Studies, TESU  '19
AS  Natural Science and Mathematics, TESU  '19

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TEEX (5 Cr) Aleks (9 Cr)  ED4Credit (3 Cr) CPCU (2 Cr)   Study.com (39 Cr)

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TT B&M (46 Cr)  Nations University  (9 cr)  UoPeople: (3 cr) Penn Foster: (8 cr)  

#22
What is the purpose of double majoring in math and CS? Do you already have a lot of higher-level math credits? If you don't already have most of the credits for CS and math, this is going to be time-consuming and costly. And, doing the Penn Foster program on top of a double major is going to add even more unnecessary time and costs. TESU only accepts ACE-approved courses from Penn Foster, and most other schools won't accept PF credits either. CS is better for jobs, but math lays a better foundation for engineering, and math majors normally don't have much trouble with finding work.

Stony Brook University offers an online, ABET-accredited BSEE, but it's $898 per credit hour. Old Dominion University offers online, ABET-accredited, degree completion programs in general engineering technology: electrical mechanical systems (this one may not be ABET-accredited), electrical engineering technology: electrical systems technology, and electrical engineering technology: computer engineering technology. They're only $369 per credit hour. I didn't see you mention these, so I wanted to make sure you were aware of them. But, as you may already know, engineering technology may not be good enough to land a job as an engineer. Still, it would be better than throwing money away on degrees you aren't going to use in a few years, and engineering technology will get you a job as an engineering technologist. 

(12-01-2017, 11:48 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Option 2. TESU, Electronic Systems Engineering Technology   (PROS: Regionally Accredited, ABET,       CONS: non-engineering, expensive, long @ 5-6 years)

2) This program is a very good program, but transferring courses into the program are the ones harder to find, probably the same price as Excelsior, but without the ABET accreditation

This program is ABET-accredited and significantly cheaper than Excelsior under the Comprehensive Tuition Plan.
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#23
(12-03-2017, 10:29 PM)armstrongsubero Wrote: Easy guys! no need for all the fighting!

@bjcheung77 gracias will do...I guess I'll do the CS and Math degree...even though I'm practically done with the BALS...and it's not what I want...this is delayed gratification in practice..I think I'll also do the penn foster degree on the side..with those low monthly payments, I'll have my mind at ease that I'm at least studying what I want...along with mit ocw and some free cousera courses..

@decimon yeah I know, I checked up stuff on ebay and that together with stuff I have as well could have lowered the cost if I was going that route, but I'll take bjcheung77's advice

@sanantone thanks for your help!

Getting an online ABET EE degree is nearly impossible for an international student unless you have a lot of time and resources....

With the pie fight going on, I didn't feel like weighing in, but think I can now. I've been in embedded development for 30 years. In general, I think this is a good plan. If you could just go and get a quality EE degree, I would tell you to go do that even if it wasn't in the U.S. and even if it took longer. Since that isn't in the cards, The CS degree can serve you well. Yes, a lot of the embedded work for developers is in Linux and Android, but the people doing lower level work (board bring-up, device drivers, bare metal apps on small micros) are a mix of CS grads, and EEs who like software.

Yes, FAEs for people like Microchip and TI are EEs...because they are helping EEs who are designing boards, and when they help people like me who are trying to get software working on a chip, we need an extra infusion of understanding what's happening inside the chip, not more software know-how. So, you can use the CS degree to do low-level embedded work and gain experience, while piling on the EE degree later.

As far as the math degree goes, it's a nice to have. It would be a small bump up on your resume, but I wouldn't let it slow you down.
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#24
I wonder what's wrong with the colleges in the OP's country.

I forgot that University of North Dakota is another school that offers an online, ABET-accredited bachelor's in electrical engineering.
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#25
@davewill thank you! well I dont mind doing CS as long as I can work on bord drivers and bare metal apps!
I like the low level understaing of the chip...it is what interests me the most!
hmm so you think I should drop the math? Okay well I guess there's no harm in doing so...
what is you opinion on EET for this job? do you think it is any use?

@sanantone the 'technology' ending on ODU makes them worthless for what I want..especially at that price..for an ABET accredited EET degree Grantham is the best cause they take ACE and I can knock it out quickly. and the colleges in my country dont offer online programs for techbology and engineering. I would have to leave my job to attend a 4 year program..Literally only programs in social work, psychology, political science and education..are blended...

hmm! that program at UND is way way out of my league at $849 per credit hour...one course would be 2 1/4 months full salary!..not to mention they explicitly state 6+ years on their website....way to expensive and long for me...and I considered the engineering technologist route...if I had that kinda cash to spend I would do the EE program at ASU...since its in one of the states I'm targeting...

as for the ODU programs...looking at the engineering..they seem targeted to US military...besides engineering technology is looked at as less than engineering..at least here you are seens as someone who cant make it in engineering and did technology..cause down here people who cant make it in pure science or engineering do either engineering tech, technology (IT, ISS et al) or comp sci...

Sigh..this is so difficult..
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MS Information and Communication Technology (UK IET Accredited) (On Hold)
Master of Theological Studies, Nations University (6 cr)


UNDERGRAD : 184 Credits

BA Computer Science, TESU  '19
BA Liberal Studies, TESU  '19
AS  Natural Science and Mathematics, TESU  '19

StraighterLine (27 Cr)   Shmoop (18 Cr)  Sophia (11 Cr)
TEEX (5 Cr) Aleks (9 Cr)  ED4Credit (3 Cr) CPCU (2 Cr)   Study.com (39 Cr)

TESU (4 cr)
TT B&M (46 Cr)  Nations University  (9 cr)  UoPeople: (3 cr) Penn Foster: (8 cr)  

#26
(12-04-2017, 09:49 AM)armstrongsubero Wrote: @davewill thank you! well I dont mind doing CS as long as I can work on bord drivers and bare metal apps!
I like the low level understaing of the chip...it is what interests me the most!
hmm so you think I should drop the math? Okay well I guess there's no harm in doing so...
what is you opinion on EET for this job? do you think it is any use?

I wouldn't say I recommend against the Math degree, I just don't think it's worth a lot of extra time spent not working on the ultimate goal. You're already planning on two bachelor's degrees, why make it three? By all means take both Discrete Math and Linear Algebra, though, it will serve you well in EE work later.

As far as the EET, I can't recommend it. From what I'm hearing, EETs tend to get shunted into test engineer positions rather than actual design engineering work.
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#27
(12-04-2017, 12:23 AM)sanantone Wrote: Stony Brook University offers an online, ABET-accredited BSEE...

The online program is upper-division only.


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