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jsd Wrote:No classes at TESU are cost effective (TECEPs are decently priced). He was referring to the CLEP exam, which would be cheaper than UExcel.bothe CLEP and UExcel require a testing center, however. Neither are online.
For your ethics course, there's a free online unproctored option you should be using.
312N-H Ethics and the CPCU Code of Professional Conduct (2 credits) - an upper level ethics/philosophy course that meet's TESU's General Education "ethics" requirement (you might have to ask for an exception to be made for the last credit, to be made up as a general ed elective).
To signup, use the following link: Preserve the trust on which insurance transactions are based with an understanding of ethics
Select the FREE option. You do not need to do the $5 option. That is for "Continuing Education credit," which is different than college credit. The free version is ACE approved for college credit.
All found this free Ethics course too on the institutes: 311N-H Ethical Guidelines for Insurance Professionals - (No CE Credit) (OL) $0.00 FREE, should be good for 2 credits as well, because I saw that's what @dfrecore and @bjcheung77 used to fulfill the Ethics course requirement.
Here's the link: https://www.theinstitutes.org/comet/lear...elines.htm
Here's information on TECEP online test resource for cost per credit: Here are the costs (current as of the 2016-2017 academic year):
TECEPÂ Examinations Per Credit Attempted
Matriculated $38
Non-Matriculated $52
Anyone have more details on Matriculated and Non-Matriculated deifference, because since we aren't using these examinations for knowledge base or certificate only, then we should be considered Matriculated, since we are enrolling and taking the test for credits toward graduation; I hope I'm right? Anyone can clarify please.
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Yes, you should start with ALEKS for sure.
Regarding published info from TESU, you will have to rely on what we give you for info on that, since tons of us have taken ALEKS courses over the years and gotten it transferred to TESU, but TESU doesn't publish all of the ACE-recommended credit that they will take. I have a huge spreadsheet that I update as I get info here on this forum, and other people have their own methods as well. Some stuff is published (SL, Study.com), but we know all of those as well.
Get rid of anything for CLEP/DSST/UExcel, since those all require testing centers. You can easily take everything through Saylor, Study.com, Straighterline, TECEP's, etc.
Yes, for TECEP's you can pay the matriculated student price, after you apply. It works out to $114/exam, which is a great price, especially if you need some UL courses.
I would start with ALEKS, then the free stuff (Ethics, TEEX if you want), then move onto Saylor if there's anything you want to take through them (it's $25 per exam, the courses are free, but not great). Then, sign up with either SL or Study.com and take a bunch of those courses. Finish with TECEP's if need be.
The only thing I recommend is that if you'd rather take English Comp I & II with TECEP's (exam-only) than with SL (online course), that's a good option. I took the English Comp II and passed it cold, no studying required.
Good luck.
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12-22-2016, 08:26 AM
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Shynepapin Wrote:All found this free Ethics course too on the institutes: 311N-H Ethical Guidelines for Insurance Professionals - (No CE Credit) (OL) $0.00 FREE, should be good for 2 credits as well, because I saw that's what @dfrecore and @bjcheung77 used to fulfill the Ethics course requirement.
Here's the link: https://www.theinstitutes.org/comet/lear...elines.htm
Here's information on TECEP online test resource for cost per credit: Here are the costs (current as of the 2016-2017 academic year):
TECEPÂ Examinations Per Credit Attempted
Matriculated $38
Non-Matriculated $52
Anyone have more details on Matriculated and Non-Matriculated deifference, because since we aren't using these examinations for knowledge base or certificate only, then we should be considered Matriculated, since we are enrolling and taking the test for credits toward graduation; I hope I'm right? Anyone can clarify please.
311 is the wrong course and is not credit bearing. 312 is the right course, use the link I provided.
dfrecore and bjcheung77 used the one I linked to, not 311.
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jsd Wrote:311 is the wrong course and is not credit bearing. 312 is the right course, use the link I provided.
dfrecore and bjcheung77 used the one I linked to, not 311.
Ok, thanks for the clarification.
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dfrecore Wrote:Yes, you should start with ALEKS for sure.
Regarding published info from TESU, you will have to rely on what we give you for info on that, since tons of us have taken ALEKS courses over the years and gotten it transferred to TESU, but TESU doesn't publish all of the ACE-recommended credit that they will take. I have a huge spreadsheet that I update as I get info here on this forum, and other people have their own methods as well. Some stuff is published (SL, Study.com), but we know all of those as well.
Get rid of anything for CLEP/DSST/UExcel, since those all require testing centers. You can easily take everything through Saylor, Study.com, Straighterline, TECEP's, etc.
Yes, for TECEP's you can pay the matriculated student price, after you apply. It works out to $114/exam, which is a great price, especially if you need some UL courses.
I would start with ALEKS, then the free stuff (Ethics, TEEX if you want), then move onto Saylor if there's anything you want to take through them (it's $25 per exam, the courses are free, but not great). Then, sign up with either SL or Study.com and take a bunch of those courses. Finish with TECEP's if need be.
The only thing I recommend is that if you'd rather take English Comp I & II with TECEP's (exam-only) than with SL (online course), that's a good option. I took the English Comp II and passed it cold, no studying required.
Good luck.
Sorry to jump into this thread... when you mention free classes... which specifically were you referring to? Just the 1 ethics class? or are there more to be done.
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Lamtldealer Wrote:Sorry to jump into this thread... when you mention free classes... which specifically were you referring to? Just the 1 ethics class? or are there more to be done.
He're a list of free classes, totalling 11 credits, from our wiki.
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Note that these have limited utility outside of "the big three."
There's also additional FEMA classes beyond the 11 cr that are really only useful at COSC
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Just to give you guys an update, I've started working on ALEKS, thank you for all your directions and guide, will always keep you updated and always open to more suggestions regarding anything at all. Regards to you all and wishing you all a very merry and wonderful christmas holiday.
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I would start to think about how you are planning to pay for the costs of this journey. TESU is likely the cheapest way to earn a regionally accredited degree in psychology so I think you are on the right track, but it is still going to cost several thousand dollars to get the diploma. The big costs are the capstone ($1500+ no way around this other than switching major to business administration), the residency fee waiver ($2000), and the graduation fee ($323). You also have to figure out how to pay for all of the nontraditional courses and e-textbooks mentioned here.
So when you mention that money is tight, you need to also consider speed. For example, the speed you complete Straighterline, use of SL coupon codes, and the method you acquire e-textbooks will determine how expensive it is. Highly motivated folks can complete 4 to 8+ SL courses a month. But if you are unable to complete more than 1 or 2 SL courses a month due to lack of time, speed, or money, it is going to be much more expensive due to the $100 SL monthly fee. You cannot use a coupon code more than once. I'm not sure why you want to avoid testing completely, but you can borrow study materials for DSST and CLEP at the library for free while the IC forum subscription here is very cheap (I think the IC forums are much more helpful than the flashcards).
Just to give you an idea of how fast highly motivated folks can complete ALEKS, you should complete each course in one day with the possible exception of statistics, which many people have trouble with. The free ethics course can be completed in an hour or two. Each of the free TEEX courses can be completed in one day. Your speed counts when money is tight. Use the free courses to figure out realistically how fast you can get through this stuff.
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TrailRunr Wrote:Just to give you an idea of how fast highly motivated folks can complete ALEKS, you should complete each course in one day with the possible exception of statistics, which many people have trouble with. The free ethics course can be completed in an hour or two. Each of the free TEEX courses can be completed in one day. Your speed counts when money is tight. Use the free courses to figure out realistically how fast you can get through this stuff.
I was motivated, and there is no possible way I could complete ALEKS College Algebra in a day. It took me WEEKS to get though it. I probably didn't even complete it in 1 month-long membership cycle. I also thought the TEEX courses were long, and it took me at least a week to get through each module, and I finally gave up after 2 modules and figured there was a faster way for me to get some credits (although not cheaper certainly).
OP - No one can tell you how long it will take you to get through any course, because it is highly dependent upon you - how well you already know the material going in, how many hours a day you can devote to studying, how good of a test-taker you are, etc. We can give you a ballpark, but to tell someone that they can finish a math class in a day is probably not the average. Maybe SOME people can, but I'm willing to bet most can't. For anyone who struggled with math in high school, or who haven't been in school for decades, it is improbable that they can finish in a day (and I did well in and enjoyed math in HS, and took Algebra I, Geometry, Algebra II, Trig & Analytic Geometry, graduated in 88, and couldn't pass ALEKS' College Algebra in what seemed like forever - maybe 2 hours a day for weeks and weeks to pass).
I would start with the inexpensive or easy-to pass courses, and then work into harder things from there. Take all of your Psych courses together, which should make studying each subsequent course/exam easier.
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TrailRunr Wrote:I would start to think about how you are planning to pay for the costs of this journey. TESU is likely the cheapest way to earn a regionally accredited degree in psychology so I think you are on the right track, but it is still going to cost several thousand dollars to get the diploma. The big costs are the capstone ($1500+ no way around this other than switching major to business administration), the residency fee waiver ($2000), and the graduation fee ($323). You also have to figure out how to pay for all of the nontraditional courses and e-textbooks mentioned here.
So when you mention that money is tight, you need to also consider speed. For example, the speed you complete Straighterline, use of SL coupon codes, and the method you acquire e-textbooks will determine how expensive it is. Highly motivated folks can complete 4 to 8+ SL courses a month. But if you are unable to complete more than 1 or 2 SL courses a month due to lack of time, speed, or money, it is going to be much more expensive due to the $100 SL monthly fee. You cannot use a coupon code more than once. I'm not sure why you want to avoid testing completely, but you can borrow study materials for DSST and CLEP at the library for free while the IC forum subscription here is very cheap (I think the IC forums are much more helpful than the flashcards).
Just to give you an idea of how fast highly motivated folks can complete ALEKS, you should complete each course in one day with the possible exception of statistics, which many people have trouble with. The free ethics course can be completed in an hour or two. Each of the free TEEX courses can be completed in one day. Your speed counts when money is tight. Use the free courses to figure out realistically how fast you can get through this stuff.
If you say a day for each ALEKS course, like how many hours, a total 24 non-stop, FYI though, I'm not ridiculous at Math; but I want to learn this stuff over again, not just gain the degree, like it has been mentioned in the forum over and over again, how fast you are depends on what and how you want to use your degree, so for me I'm not trying to cut corners here for the math.
Also, I have been cosidering BSBA in HRM, but knowing fully well how mediocre my math is now, then for courses in financial Accounting, it's not scary but it would take some time. For money, I'm focused on putting the majority of my earnings into this, let's say a target of $1000 per month and since it's total cost for either one of the above mentioned degree would cost $6000, that is BA Psychology or BSBA HRM both at TESU, then it's doable in 6 months or even 7.
Right now, I'm trying to group the courses based on its contents and using similarities of each course content. I don't want to have the need to move from Quantitative Literacy to Oral Literacy and Ethics, or others. So, I'm working with less time as I have to make sure time management is on point, making this goal, my 8 to 4 doesn't actually lack, likewise family time, though she understands what path I'm on now and know I need more alone time to study.
My target for each ALEKS course is 3 to 4 days and that is what I'm working with. If you know any guide to make this faster, I will kindly appreciate you mention it, right now I practice any topic I'm struggling with on KhanAcademy. So, for other resources for test prep, none as being mentioned here so far if you put time into reading the thread. Suggestions have mainly focused on course selection and resources where each could be taken for average cost without going broke.
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