Need an UL English course? Harvard has one cheap!

[Ideas]

BTW, My daughter is just finishing the "Mayflower" one, and they asked her if they could keep her essay as an exemplar for future Harvard students!

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Harvard doesn't use the 100/200/300/400 numbering system, so you can't go by that.

I know for sure that Harvard will not let you use a course you took with them for grad credit later toward your graduate degree with them.  

When I was working out a strategy to do it, my situation was a little different.  
I had a BA from TESU completed first. Then, I enrolled at HES for graduate level biology, with the intention of sending the biology credits back to TESU for upperlevel science for a second BA in biology.  They would then be used inside an undergrad degree (second BA from TES) and a master's at HES (biology).  I did not end up pursuing the biology masters, I went with nutrition, however, if for sure is doable.  But to double dip, you have to have your first BA from TESU.  This isn't going to work for most people, because if you want to UL credit in your AOS at TESU, you have to give up using them for grad school - BUT, finding upper level English for $60/credit?  No one is doing that- it's worth losing them against a future masters imo.

Thanks. I am still confused about whether it's LL if I choose undergrad level? For me, the HES poetry would be after my first TESU bachelor's (and before my second TESU bachelor's).

I guess I would like a bundle of 18 Eng grad credits someday, so they could still help me reach that? Via an HES transcript in the future?

[bjcheung77]

If you use the HES 18 Eng Grad credits, can't you apply that towards an undergraduate degree at TESU? If that's the case, I would use it as 18 Eng Grad credits, that 18 credits there will allow teaching in English or another subject if I recall correctly. I would research this further and email both HES/TESU to verify the info.

[PrettyFlyforaChiGuy]

This may be a zombie thread now, but I've registered for The City from Whitman to Hip Hop (ENGL S-300) for grad-level credit. It is still $250 thanks to the grant, although the other poetry courses are currently $3000+.

My only previous experience in college-level English was a 5 on AP Lit and a Holocaust course nearly 15 years back, but I had very little experience with poetry, especially annotating it. What was the topic/structure of the final paper? I feel oddly hesitant about this course due to my lack of familiarity with the subject, even though that's kind of the point of attempting to learn something new.

Do any previous students have any more advice? I've read through this whole thread, but just seeing if there are any final pointers that could be offered. Thank you for anything.

[cookderosa]

This may be a zombie thread now, but I've registered for The City from Whitman to Hip Hop (ENGL S-300) for grad-level credit. It is still $250 thanks to the grant, although the other poetry courses are currently $3000+.

My only previous experience in college-level English was a 5 on AP Lit and a Holocaust course nearly 15 years back, but I had very little experience with poetry, especially annotating it. What was the topic/structure of the final paper? I feel oddly hesitant about this course due to my lack of familiarity with the subject, even though that's kind of the point of attempting to learn something new.

Do any previous students have any more advice? I've read through this whole thread, but just seeing if there are any final pointers that could be offered. Thank you for anything.

This course is actually also available as a free MOOC so you can look at it now. https://online-learning.harvard.edu/cour...ca-whitman

[hsfamfun]

Do any previous students have any more advice? I've read through this whole thread, but just seeing if there are any final pointers that could be offered. Thank you for anything.

I have taken all 5 of the Poetry in America courses and am currently waiting for my essay scores on the most recent 2.  The essays were hard for me because I haven't written for academic reasons for many years.  However, the courses were wonderful.  They are well structured, and very doable, although the summer class was the hardest to keep up in, it was also my favorite.  I had never annotated before, either, but it was pretty easy to pick up if you have every analyzed anything.  I enjoyed it, I hope that you do, too!

[eriehiker]

hsfamfun:

My essay scores just posted for both of my classes. I ended up with 80% and 87% on the essays which means I have at least an A- in each class. Whoo Hoo! This means I have completed all five with at least an A- in each one.

I will post more, but I am happy.

[eriehiker]

Forum posts count for 40% of the grade in most or all of these classes. The forums are set up in a point format. It is possible to earn a maximum of 50 points per week and 400 points are required for full credit in terms of the 40%. This means that a student needs to participate in eight weeks of discussion during the class time. I missed the first two weeks of last summer's class because I was chaperoning a trip to Japan. I still had enough extra weeks to complete the required weeks. This past semester was even better because the Harvard spring break week added an extra couple of catch-up weeks. Generally, it took me about four or five posts to meet the weekly max. This requires some dedication, but these are really gimme points. A person should get the full total here. Also, there are surveys at the beginning of the class and at the end that are included in this participation grade.

Ten percent of the grade is the opening essay paragraph and thesis statement. The teaching assistants give good feedback on these opening paragraphs, but the grade only reflects completion. This was good during this semester for me because I was taking the free Walden semester and I wrote these paragraphs in about 20 minutes total. It is important here to pick material that can be made into a final paper, but this assignment doesn't have to be very good.

The rest of the grade depends on the final essay grade (25%) and either a series of weekly quizzes or a final exam. Neither is proctored. Both styles are open book. This does not mean that they are easy. I am an English teacher and was an English major at Michigan and I scored 90% on the last exam I took. There is a 24 hour time clock on the open book exam. That adds just a little bit of time pressure. I much prefer the weekly quizzes. These usually took me about 30 to 40 minutes.

[cookderosa]

Forum posts count for 40% of the grade in most or all of these classes. The forums are set up in a point format. It is possible to earn a maximum of 50 points per week and 400 points are required for full credit in terms of the 40%. This means that a student needs to participate in eight weeks of discussion during the class time. I missed the first two weeks of last summer's class because I was chaperoning a trip to Japan. I still had enough extra weeks to complete the required weeks. This past semester was even better because the Harvard spring break week added an extra couple of catch-up weeks. Generally, it took me about four or five posts to meet the weekly max. This requires some dedication, but these are really gimme points. A person should get the full total here. Also, there are surveys at the beginning of the class and at the end that are included in this participation grade.

Ten percent of the grade is the opening essay paragraph and thesis statement. The teaching assistants give good feedback on these opening paragraphs, but the grade only reflects completion. This was good during this semester for me because I was taking the free Walden semester and I wrote these paragraphs in about 20 minutes total. It is important here to pick material that can be made into a final paper, but this assignment doesn't have to be very good.

The rest of the grade depends on the final essay grade (25%) and either a series of weekly quizzes or a final exam. Neither is proctored. Both styles are open book. This does not mean that they are easy. I am an English teacher and was an English major at Michigan and I scored 90% on the last exam I took. There is a 24 hour time clock on the open book exam. That adds just a little bit of time pressure. I much prefer the weekly quizzes. These usually took me about 30 to 40 minutes.

This is EXCELLENT feedback!!

[Ideas]

What was the topic/structure of the final paper? I feel oddly hesitant about this course due to my lack of familiarity with the subject, even though that's kind of the point of attempting to learn something new.

Do any previous students have any more advice? I've read through this whole thread, but just seeing if there are any final pointers that could be offered. Thank you for anything.

I just posted some thoughts in my English degree thread because I got my essay grades. I now see that eriehiker already posted a bunch of what I said, but you might look anyway. I'll add some more below.

In regards to what eriehiker posted, the essay was 30% of the grade for at least one of my classes. (I think both.) They seem to be tweaking and adjusting things each semester.

I felt that you do want to make sure you try for the thesis assignment, so that you can get useful feedback. I'll go add more to my thread in a little bit.