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Need Help Mapping Two AA Degrees
#1
Years ago my two oldest children took several CLEP and DSST exams. One graduated in 2011 with a degree made up of only CLEP, DSST, and FEMAs from TESC, and the other came close to an AA and decided to enter the workforce. We used this forum and IC on a daily basis. The community here was a crucial part of our journey.

In the meantime two other family members started taking CLEP and DSST exams, following the same general path. They have accumulated 27 and 33 credits respectively.

Now that TESC has changed so many of their policies, I'm at a loss for how to advise them. Each want to complete some sort of associates degree as a first goal. Neither are enrolled anywhere.

Here are their credits:

Student A
CLEP College Comp (6)
DSST Intro to Computing
CLEP A&I
CLEP US History I
CLEP Biology
CLEP American Government
DSST Civil War
CLEP Western Civilization I

Student B
CLEP English Literature
CLEP A&I
CLEP US History I
DSST Civil War
CLEP Western Civilization I
CLEP Sociology
DSST Business

Student A is geared toward computing and all things technical.
Student B is more interested in art, music, and design.

Any help would be highly appreciated.

An aging CLEP advisor,
Operalady

Passed:

American Gov, US History 1, US History 2, Computing, Info Systems, Humanities, Sociology, Art, Western Civ I, Western Civ II, Social Sciences and History, Civil War, Business, Vietnam, A&I Lit, Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice, American Lit, English Lit, Astronomy, Supervision, 1 FEMA, Total -79
#2
I think COSC has the simplest format for getting an AA, except they require a cornerstone course.

TESC, now uses the LEAP system and the courses have to be broken down into certain categories. I actually like it because it gives the degree a purpose besides a collection of credits, but it makes it just slightly more difficult.

Here is the map TESC provides. I'll try and do a quick map using the credits you have in a 2nd post. I have one question though. TESC now has a per credit plan. If your student takes 12 credits with TESC, you don't have to pay the huge enrollment fee. These 12 credits can be fulfilled with TECEPs, which at around $100 each can save a lot of money. Does your student plan on doing the traditional enrollment fee or the per credit plan?

Thomas Edison State College: Associate in Arts

[TABLE="class: stripeMe table1"]
[TR]
[TD]


Subject/Category
[/TD]
[TD] Credits[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] I. General Education[/TD]
[TD] 42[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: sub_point"]
[TD] A. Intellectual and Practical Skills[/TD]
[TD="class: sub_number"] 15[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: sub_point"]
[TD]
  • English Composition I (ENC-101)
[/TD]
[TD="class: sub_number"] (3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: sub_point"]
[TD]
  • English Composition II (ENC-102)
[/TD]
[TD="class: sub_number"] (3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: sub_point"]
[TD]
  • College-Level Math Course
[/TD]
[TD="class: sub_number"] (3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: sub_point"]
[TD]
  • Electives in Intellectual and Practical Skills
[/TD]
[TD="class: sub_number"] (6)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: sub_point"]
[TD] B. Personal and Social Responsibility[/TD]
[TD="class: sub_number"] 9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: sub_point"]
[TD]
  • Diversity/Global Literacy
[/TD]
[TD="class: sub_number"] (3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: sub_point"]
[TD]
  • Responsible Ethical Leadership
[/TD]
[TD="class: sub_number"] (3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: sub_point"]
[TD]
  • Ethics or Diversity Elective
[/TD]
[TD="class: sub_number"] (3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: sub_point"]
[TD] C. Human Cultures and the Physical and Natural World[/TD]
[TD="class: sub_number"] 18[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: sub_point"]
[TD]
  • Humanities
[/TD]
[TD="class: sub_number"] (3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: sub_point"]
[TD]
  • Social Sciences
[/TD]
[TD="class: sub_number"] (3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: sub_point"]
[TD]
  • Natural Sciences
[/TD]
[TD="class: sub_number"] (3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: sub_point"]
[TD]
  • Humanities, Social Sciences, Natural Sciences or Interdisciplinary Electives
[/TD]
[TD="class: sub_number"] (9)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] II. General Education Electives[/TD]
[TD] 18[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Total[/TD]
[TD] 60[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
CLEPS Passed: 10 DSST Passed: 11 TECEPS: 1

PrLoko-isms
Don't waste time by trying to save time. The only sure way to complete your degree is to knock out credits quickly and efficiently.

Don't let easiness bite you in the rear. Know your endgame (where you want to be) and plan backward from there. Your education is a means to an end.

Be honest professionally, socially and academically. There are people (especially little ones) who look up to you and they're going by your example.

Be proud. Whether you're an Engineer or Fast Food worker, there is honor and dignity in hard work.

Picking on people weaker than you only proves that you are a weak person.
#3
Is there a list somewhere of which CLEP and DSST exams fall into the three categories:
A. Intellectual and Practical Skills
B. Personal and Social Responsibility
C. Human Cultures and the Physical and Natural World

It seems at first glance that most of the credits they have earned will fall into General Education Electives. Sad

Passed:

American Gov, US History 1, US History 2, Computing, Info Systems, Humanities, Sociology, Art, Western Civ I, Western Civ II, Social Sciences and History, Civil War, Business, Vietnam, A&I Lit, Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice, American Lit, English Lit, Astronomy, Supervision, 1 FEMA, Total -79
#4
TESC does seem to want to avoid the KISS system.....
Non-Traditional Undergraduate College Credits (634 SH): *FTCC Noncourse Credits (156 SH) *DSST (78 SH) *CPL (64 SH) *JST Military/ACE (48 SH) *CBA (44 SH) *CLEP (42 SH) *FEMA IS (40 SH) *FEMA EM (38 SH) *ECE/UExcel (30 SH) *PLA Portfolio (28 SH) *EMI/ACE (19 SH) *TEEX/ACE (16 SH) *CWE (11 SH) *NFA/ACE (10 SH) *Kaplan/ACE (3 SH) *CPC (2 SH) *AICP/ACE (2 SH) *Sophia/ACE (2 SH) and *FRTI-UM/ACE (1 SH).
Non-Traditional Graduate College Credits (14 SH): AMU (6 SH); NFHS (5 SH); and JSU (3 SH).
 





#5
Life Long Learning Wrote:TESC does seem to want to avoid the KISS system.....

*understands*

But if no such lists exist, I may try to make them.

Passed:

American Gov, US History 1, US History 2, Computing, Info Systems, Humanities, Sociology, Art, Western Civ I, Western Civ II, Social Sciences and History, Civil War, Business, Vietnam, A&I Lit, Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice, American Lit, English Lit, Astronomy, Supervision, 1 FEMA, Total -79
#6
CLEP - College-Level Exam Program

DANTES
MBA, Western Governors University February 2014
BS Charter Oak State College November 2011
AS in EMS August 2010

I'm always happy to complete the free application waiver for those applying to WGU (I get a free gift from WGU for this).  Just PM me your first/last name and a valid email so I can complete their form.

Thread; COSC AS using FEMA http://www.degreeforum.net/excelsior-tho...total.html
#7
rebel100 Wrote:CLEP - College-Level Exam Program

DANTES

Are you saying I just need to match the class codes for each section?
I still would like a list for each, but these links are a good place to start.

Passed:

American Gov, US History 1, US History 2, Computing, Info Systems, Humanities, Sociology, Art, Western Civ I, Western Civ II, Social Sciences and History, Civil War, Business, Vietnam, A&I Lit, Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice, American Lit, English Lit, Astronomy, Supervision, 1 FEMA, Total -79
#8
Pretty much,
Thomas Edison State College: Associate in Arts
MBA, Western Governors University February 2014
BS Charter Oak State College November 2011
AS in EMS August 2010

I'm always happy to complete the free application waiver for those applying to WGU (I get a free gift from WGU for this).  Just PM me your first/last name and a valid email so I can complete their form.

Thread; COSC AS using FEMA http://www.degreeforum.net/excelsior-tho...total.html
#9
these lists will get you started.

CLEP - College-Level Exam Program

DANTES

Edit: Looks like I was to slow.
Andy

---------------------------------

TESC - BSBA: CIS

Current Degree Plan
Complete:  TECEP Eng Comp I, Marriage and Family, Strategic Management, Networking, Computer Concepts, Liberal Math, Tech Writing, Managerial Accounting DSST MIS, Cybersecurity Study.com Macroeconomics
Remaining:  Waiting for credits to process

#10
Here is a sample for Student A. I included 12 credits worth of TECEP if you wanted to go that route, there are other substitutions that can be made.


[TABLE="width: 630"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 5"]Intellectual and Practical Skills (15)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]English Composition[/TD]
[TD]CLEP College Comp[/TD]
[TD]ENC-101[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]English Composition[/TD]
[TD]CLEP College Comp[/TD]
[TD]ENC-102[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mathematics[/TD]
[TD]ALEKS Inter Algebra[/TD]
[TD]MAT-115[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Int & Pract Skills[/TD]
[TD]ALEKS Math Course[/TD]
[TD]??[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Int & Pract Skills[/TD]
[TD]DSST Intro to Computing[/TD]
[TD]COS-101[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 5"]Personal and Social Responsibility (9)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Diversity/Global Literacy[/TD]
[TD]CLEP Intro to Sociology[/TD]
[TD]SOC-101[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Responsible Ethical Ldrshp[/TD]
[TD]DSST Ethics in Am or Bus Ethics[/TD]
[TD]??[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Pers&Soc Resp Elective[/TD]
[TD]DSST Intro World R[/TD]
[TD]REL-405-DE[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 5"]Human Cultures (18)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Humanities[/TD]
[TD]CLEP W. Civilization I[/TD]
[TD]HIS-101-CE[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Social Science[/TD]
[TD]CLEP American Govt[/TD]
[TD]POS-110-CE[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Natural Science[/TD]
[TD]CLEP Biology[/TD]
[TD]BIO-111-CE[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Elective[/TD]
[TD]CLEP Biology[/TD]
[TD]BIO-112-CE[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Elective[/TD]
[TD]DSST Civil War[/TD]
[TD]HIS-252-DE[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Elective[/TD]
[TD]CLEP US History I[/TD]
[TD]HIS-113-CE[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 5"]Gen Ed Electives (18)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]CLEP A&I Literature[/TD]
[TD]LIT-291[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]CLEP A&I Literature[/TD]
[TD]LIT-292[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]TECEP Technical Writing[/TD]
[TD]ENG-201-TE[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]TECEP
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]TECEP Wrld Hst 1600-present[/TD]
[TD]HIS-126-TE[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]TECEP Psych of Women[/TD]
[TD]PSY-270-TE[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 3"]Totals[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]60[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]33[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
CLEPS Passed: 10 DSST Passed: 11 TECEPS: 1

PrLoko-isms
Don't waste time by trying to save time. The only sure way to complete your degree is to knock out credits quickly and efficiently.

Don't let easiness bite you in the rear. Know your endgame (where you want to be) and plan backward from there. Your education is a means to an end.

Be honest professionally, socially and academically. There are people (especially little ones) who look up to you and they're going by your example.

Be proud. Whether you're an Engineer or Fast Food worker, there is honor and dignity in hard work.

Picking on people weaker than you only proves that you are a weak person.


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