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Logic of the following (undergraduate to graduate credits )
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At here: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Un...esque_Isle

It says, you can take 3 undergraduate classes in BA at UMPI towards your MAOL.  That way, you do not need to take them at MAOL.

What is the logic? Take the 3 courses at BA UMPI or take them at MAOL UMPI. You have to take them regardless.....
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Undergrad tuition costs less and some bachelor's degrees require these courses anyway. Who doesn't love to save time and money? Many state schools offer similar programs with undergrad and grad combo degrees.
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Simple, many institutions have this as a Bachelors to Masters, such as TESU, the logic and reasoning is... Wait for it... Future proofing the degree just in case you're going for the MAOL, you have 3 less classes to take for the MAOL when the time comes. Basically, It's cheaper, easier, faster, and you get ROI/Value out of this...

In short, you're 3 classes ahead, 3 classes less to take for the MAOL, and the big kicker is, it'll be cheaper in the long run if you can finish the MAOL in a session less. Example, it takes you 1 session for 3 Master classes, you'll need 3 sessions to get all 9 completed... If you didn't do them during undergrad, you'll pay a 4th session!
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(06-10-2024, 03:14 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Simple, many institutions have this as a Bachelors to Masters, such as TESU, the logic and reasoning is... Wait for it... Future proofing the degree just in case you're going for the MAOL, you have 3 less classes to take for the MAOL when the time comes.  Basically, It's cheaper, easier, faster, and you get ROI/Value out of this...

In short, you're 3 classes ahead, 3 classes less to take for the MAOL, and the big kicker is, it'll be cheaper in the long run if you can finish the MAOL in a session less.  Example, it takes you 1 session for 3 Master classes, you'll need 3 sessions to get all 9 completed... If you didn't do them during undergrad, you'll pay a 4th session!

I may have not specified my question correctly. What I meant is, why would I attend a Bachelors degree for the 3 classes and abandon it, then to take MAOL?

I am speaking from the perspective of someone who does not have the 3 classes, but could use a different graduate diploma to get enrolled into MAOL.  

For that, what is described in the wiki, its for people who do not have a bachelors degree (or requirements for the MAOL degree).  

Am I correct? If yes, I could clear up my confusion xD

I am graduating with a UoPeople BS CS degree at the end of the year (LOA time including), and I am soon going to receive my ENEB Master/MBA diploma (with 8.8 grades on each subject lul), so I could attend UMPI MAOL. Taking UMPI BABA degree would be useless and expensive, just to be able to transfer the 3 courses to UMPI MAOL, cause I can take them at UMPI MAOL. 

(if would look differently, only in the case that I would want to get the Bachelors degree at UMPI first).
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(06-10-2024, 03:23 PM)ecdw94 Wrote: I may have not specified my question correctly. What I meant is, why would I attend a Bachelors degree for the 3 classes and abandon it, then to take MAOL?

I am speaking from the perspective of someone who does not have the 3 classes, but could use a different graduate diploma to get enrolled into MAOL.  

For that, what is described in the wiki, its for people who do not have a bachelors degree (or requirements for the MAOL degree).  

Am I correct? If yes, I could clear up my confusion xD

I am graduating with a UoPeople BS CS degree at the end of the year (LOA time including), and I am soon going to receive my ENEB Master/MBA diploma (with 8.8 grades on each subject lul), so I could attend UMPI MAOL. Taking UMPI BABA degree would be useless and expensive, just to be able to transfer the 3 courses to UMPI MAOL, cause I can take them at UMPI MAOL. 

(if would look differently, only in the case that I would want to get the Bachelors degree at UMPI first).

Have you confirmed with UMPI that the ENEB will make you eligible for graduate admissions? I would do that before embarking on the ENEB route. 

No one has recommended just taking the 3 undergrad courses that are waived in the MAOL. We recommend taking them as an undergrad in case one day you do decide to go for the MAOL. Many people need the credits anyway as they're required for many degrees.

And for RA credit $500 for a 3 credit RA course is not expensive compared to most colleges. These are also UL credits.
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Q: What I meant is, why would I attend a Bachelors degree for the 3 classes and abandon it, then to take MAOL?
A: No one is abandoning anything, people don't randomly take 3 classes at UMPI for no reason and then apply to the MAOL.

You: I am speaking from the perspective of someone who does not have the 3 classes, but could use a different graduate diploma to get enrolled into MAOL.
For that, what is described in the wiki, its for people who do not have a bachelors degree (or requirements for the MAOL degree).
Me: As long as you have a Bachelors (foreign equivalent, RA, or something they will accept for entry requirements into the MAOL), you're good to go.

You: I am graduating with a UoPeople BS CS degree at the end of the year (LOA time including), and I am soon going to receive my ENEB Master/MBA diploma (with 8.8 grades on each subject lul), so I could attend UMPI MAOL. Taking UMPI BABA degree would be useless and expensive, just to be able to transfer the 3 courses to UMPI MAOL, cause I can take them at UMPI MAOL. (if would look differently, only in the case that I would want to get the Bachelors degree at UMPI first).

Me: It really doesn't matter how you slice things, as long as you're getting the education and knowledge you're looking for. Some people who have the energy, time to get things done can do the 1 sessions BAS/BLS (with or without the 3 classes that go towards the MAOL) and then do 2 sessions for the MAOL These are individuals who know the subject matter well enough to speed through the materials. Costs for 1 session, BA $1700, MAOL $2350.
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(06-10-2024, 02:52 PM)ecdw94 Wrote: At here: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Un...esque_Isle

It says, you can take 3 undergraduate classes in BA at UMPI towards your MAOL.  That way, you do not need to take them at MAOL.

What is the logic? Take the 3 courses at BA UMPI or take them at MAOL UMPI. You have to take them regardless.....

The logic is that you are not comparing apples to apples. 

MAOL courses are a lot more work than UMPI YourPace undergrad courses. They can be 3-5 times more work.
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