Liberty University Doctorate DBA

[KSoul]

Curious why Liberty gets so much pushback on its Christian curriculum. They are a Christian university with interest in influencing its ideology. They believe that faith and education are intertwined and that Christian education can help to shape students into well-rounded, compassionate citizens.
I am not a fan of how they push their agenda; however, I don't see how they are so different than other faith-based universities. BYU is 10X worse than Liberty when you factor in the founding fathers; however, Liberty feels like the anti-poster child when there are bigger culprits of this unpopular curriculum approach.

I'm not sure it's the norm for Christian schools to make you quote the Bible in every course. They might make you take an introductory religious studies course and that's it. 
If someone just wants to focus on the subject at hand, then University of the Cumberlands is a Christian school that does not force the Bible into every course, from what I've heard. This is a pretty conservative university, too.

Fair enough.  Again, I am not even pro-Liberty, it just tends to receive so much pushback from what feels like a majority of people who have never attended,  and I found it fascinating. 

Every course with a biblical theme would be heavy, even if you have a strong relationship with your faith.

[sanantone]

sanantoneKSoulCurious why Liberty gets so much pushback on its Christian curriculum. They are a Christian university with interest in influencing its ideology. They believe that faith and education are intertwined and that Christian education can help to shape students into well-rounded, compassionate citizens.I am not a fan of how they push their agenda; however, I don't see how they are so different than other faith-based universities. BYU is 10X worse than Liberty when you factor in the founding fathers; however, Liberty feels like the anti-poster child when there are bigger culprits of this unpopular curriculum approach.




I'm not sure it's the norm for Christian schools to make you quote the Bible in every course. They might make you take an introductory religious studies course and that's it. If someone just wants to focus on the subject at hand, then University of the Cumberlands is a Christian school that does not force the Bible into every course, from what I've heard. This is a pretty conservative university, too.
Fair enough. Again, I am not even pro-Liberty, it just tends to receive so much pushback from what feels like a majority of people who have never attended, and I found it fascinating. 
Every course with a biblical theme would be heavy, even if you have a strong relationship with your faith.

A gay man on the sister forum didn't have a problem with Liberty, but he's also very religious. I'd expect that highly religious people would be more tolerant of Liberty's curriculum. On the other hand, I've heard non-religious people speak highly of University of the Cumberlands despite them also having an anti-gay student policy.

[bjcheung77]

Liberty is a huge school, there are always pros/cons about any institution, it really varies. We have members who have graduated from Liberty, it really depends on the student needs and wants, if the school hits your budget, course content you're looking for in a program, time, etc, then go for it. Reviews are just that, you determine if the program hits all the spots or not, have a backup or two just in case you want something better, cheaper, or whatever your personal requirements are for a DBA.

[Rhashad]

Yikes, looks like the general consensus is to stay away. I totally understand the 'bad for employment' complaint but let's be honest folks, most of us are here for the degree and not necessary a "job." TESC did not help me get a job, nor did WGU, but I'm proud of my degrees and email signature.

With that said, I will keep everyone posted to my progress and experience. I will say the enrollment process for a phd program was WAAAAYYY too easy. All they wanted was my WGU transcripts. Courses seem to be straightforward.

Regarding religion, I have a friend at Faulkner and they're also encouraged to use biblical references/religion.

The lawsuits are unfortunate, especially the assault allegations, but a large number of prominent universities have similar issues (Michigan, Penn, etc)

[Pats20]

Yikes, looks like the general consensus is to stay away. I totally understand the 'bad for employment' complaint but let's be honest folks, most of us are here for the degree and not necessary a "job." TESC did not help me get a job, nor did WGU, but I'm proud of my degrees and email signature.

With that said, I will keep everyone posted to my progress and experience. I will say the enrollment process for a phd program was WAAAAYYY too easy. All they wanted was my WGU transcripts. Courses seem to be straightforward.

Regarding religion, I have a friend at Faulkner and they're also encouraged to use biblical references/religion.

The lawsuits are unfortunate, especially the assault allegations, but a large number of prominent universities have similar issues (Michigan, Penn, etc)

I would have thought just the opposite. Most I would suspect are hoping their educational journeys whether from TESU , WGU or wherever will lead to jobs or career advancement

[turbotortuga]

Yikes, looks like the general consensus is to stay away. I totally understand the 'bad for employment' complaint but let's be honest folks, most of us are here for the degree and not necessary a "job." TESC did not help me get a job, nor did WGU, but I'm proud of my degrees and email signature.

With that said, I will keep everyone posted to my progress and experience. I will say the enrollment process for a phd program was WAAAAYYY too easy. All they wanted was my WGU transcripts. Courses seem to be straightforward.

Regarding religion, I have a friend at Faulkner and they're also encouraged to use biblical references/religion.

The lawsuits are unfortunate, especially the assault allegations, but a large number of prominent universities have similar issues (Michigan, Penn, etc)

I actually was looking at the DBA Accounting program at Liberty due to their Executive Graduate Certificate in Business and thier military friendly tuition policies, but after doing some research, I'm going to do the South College DBA in Accounting instead. Although the South College DBA is not ACBSP accredited, it's a potentially faster program due to the CBE element (1-2 years vs 3 years at Liberty). Also South College doesn't have the unfortunate politically distasteful issues that Liberty does either, and I'm not very interested in referencing the bible in any shape or form in non-religious coursework.

It is a shame about Liberty though. It's really relatively inexpensive for military students at $300 per credit hour, but that's on purpose so that they can extract more federal funding from everyone else.

[sanantone]

Yikes, looks like the general consensus is to stay away. I totally understand the 'bad for employment' complaint but let's be honest folks, most of us are here for the degree and not necessary a "job." TESC did not help me get a job, nor did WGU, but I'm proud of my degrees and email signature.
With that said, I will keep everyone posted to my progress and experience. I will say the enrollment process for a phd program was WAAAAYYY too easy. All they wanted was my WGU transcripts. Courses seem to be straightforward.
Regarding religion, I have a friend at Faulkner and they're also encouraged to use biblical references/religion.
The lawsuits are unfortunate, especially the assault allegations, but a large number of prominent universities have similar issues (Michigan, Penn, etc)

From what I've seen over the past 12 years is that most want a cheap and fast degree for employment purposes. If getting a quality education were a priority, people wouldn't be leaning toward ACE/NCCRS courses and credit-by-exam.

[Rhashad]

Yikes, looks like the general consensus is to stay away. I totally understand the 'bad for employment' complaint but let's be honest folks, most of us are here for the degree and not necessary a "job." TESC did not help me get a job, nor did WGU, but I'm proud of my degrees and email signature.

With that said, I will keep everyone posted to my progress and experience. I will say the enrollment process for a phd program was WAAAAYYY too easy. All they wanted was my WGU transcripts. Courses seem to be straightforward.

Regarding religion, I have a friend at Faulkner and they're also encouraged to use biblical references/religion.

The lawsuits are unfortunate, especially the assault allegations, but a large number of prominent universities have similar issues (Michigan, Penn, etc)

I would have thought just the opposite. Most I would suspect are hoping their educational journeys whether from TESU , WGU or wherever will lead to jobs or career advancement

That was also my initial thought when this journey began over a decade ago, I've found this route to be GREAT for those advancing careers at the same company, not so great for find employment elsewhere. I'm sure there are exceptions, but these are atypical.

[Charles Fout]

Hi Guys! I'm back at it because who doesn't want a challenge?

What do you guys know about Liberty University and its DBA program? How fast to complete? Any shortcuts? Difficulty level?

Any input is greatly appreciated.

I love Liberty University. 

Do not expect any shortcuts in any Liberty University program of study.

All of my Liberty University School of Business courses were rigorous beyond my expectations. That said, my professors were helpful and supportive.

Liberty University Graduate Certificate in Management and Leadership, Class of 2018

[datby98]

Though I wonder if there are any shortcuts for getting a doctorate degree, I personally do know there are many other options for pursuing a DBA degree on the market.