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My daughter is a senior in High school. She has one class to graduate. She's ahead, she's a hard worker and is ready for the next step. We thought since her school offers her subscriptions for free to Study.com, ALEKS, and Shmoop.com we would work on hammering out a degree. I am new to this and have spent several days trying to learn but would love the help in mapping this out with these free resources. I've read several of the newbie threads and learning a lot. Thank you to everyone who has helped those before me.
So far...We've signed up for the free classes, she'll begin those immediately. I signed up for fun too!
She has zero classes to transfer. Starting from 0.
She just wants a degree. Easier the better.
She has 11-12 months to finish. That's when the subscriptions expire.
Can you map it out to an AA then to a BA in case doing it all in one year is too much for her. We'd love for her to have an AA on HS grad day, But be able to press on if she's handling it all well.
We can do CLEPs if we need to, but would rather use the free resources above first.
Blessings and Thanks in advance for your help!
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CLEPs are free for the time being through modernstates.org.
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1) find out which school/program she wants to do. If she wants to do TESU, Shmoop is completely out. If she wants to do a school different than the big 3, check to see if they accept ACE and/or have specific partnerships with ALEKs, study.com and Shmoop. I think right now, COSC is the recommended school for a general AA and/or BA.
2) start with the gen Ed requirements that are required for most all degrees: English comp 1 & 2, math(whatever level she's at), at least 1 science, some social studies courses(history, government, intro to sociology/psychology) and others.
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as MNomadic said above me, I would start her with GenEd classes because if she starts changing her mind - those won't matter - she will always need those.
(Spoken from a mind-changer )
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With ALEKS math the most courses you could do is three courses: algebra, trigonometry and a course in statistics. They also have precalculus but if you do algebra or trig then you can't get credit for it. So if you want to get the most possible credit with ALEKS just do those three courses.
If you choose Shoomp TESU is out because they don't accept it. However, I heard COSC is the cheapest anyways. Plus TESU has gotten really strict and doesn't admit anyone under 18.
Here are Charter Oaks Gen Eds. She can work from there:
Written Communication (6 credits English Composition 1 and 2)
Oral Communication (3 credits (ex. Principles of Speech, Principles of Public Speaking)
Ethical Decision-Making (3 credits ex. ethics, Business Ethics, Health Care Ethics, or Computer Ethics)
U.S. History/Government (3 credits ex. American Government, American History, etc.)
Non-U.S. History or Culture (3 credits (art, literature, history, foreign language or religion course, Western Civilization I or II)
Global Understanding (3 credits) (Religions of the World, Cultural Anthropology, Comparative Economic Systems, Comparative Political Systems, International Business, International Economics, International Marketing, etc.)
Literature and Fine Arts (3 credits) (Music Appreciation, Art Appreciation, Art History, Music History, Theater, Dance, Creative Writing, Drawing, Literature)
Social/Behavioral Sciences (3 credits) Examples: Anthropology, Criminal Justice, Economics, Gerontology, Psychology, Sociology, Political Science
Mathematics (3 credits)
Natural Sciences (7-8 credits) One 4-credit course that includes a lab must be taken. The second course can be either a 4-credit lab or a 3-credit course without a lab.Examples: Astronomy, Biology, Chemistry, Environmental Science, Geology, Oceanography, Physical Geography, Physics.
If you didn't know, one course is typically worth 3 credits.
Also after, she completes the free courses from Sophia, you get a $50 off coupon. Use that $50 off coupon for the Sophia course titled "College Success" and it will be free.
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(06-09-2019, 09:15 PM)quigongene Wrote: CLEPs are free for the time being through modernstates.org. Thanks, I just saw that today. When does that expire? do you know?
(06-09-2019, 09:27 PM)MNomadic Wrote: 1) find out which school/program she wants to do. If she wants to do TESU, Shmoop is completely out. If she wants to do a school different than the big 3, check to see if they accept ACE and/or have specific partnerships with ALEKs, study.com and Shmoop. I think right now, COSC is the recommended school for a general AA and/or BA.
2) start with the gen Ed requirements that are required for most all degrees: English comp 1 & 2, math(whatever level she's at), at least 1 science, some social studies courses(history, government, intro to sociology/psychology) and others.
She's open to which ever she can gain a degree in for the least amount of money using those free resources above. I think we're leaning towards COSC unless someone has another idea?
(06-09-2019, 09:54 PM)natshar Wrote: With ALEKS math the most courses you could do is three courses: algebra, trigonometry and a course in statistics. They also have precalculus but if you do algebra or trig then you can't get credit for it. So if you want to get the most possible credit with ALEKS just do those three courses.
If you choose Shoomp TESU is out because they don't accept it. However, I heard COSC is the cheapest anyways. Plus TESU has gotten really strict and doesn't admit anyone under 18.
Here are Charter Oaks Gen Eds. She can work from there:
Written Communication (6 credits English Composition 1 and 2)
Oral Communication (3 credits (ex. Principles of Speech, Principles of Public Speaking)
Ethical Decision-Making (3 credits ex. ethics, Business Ethics, Health Care Ethics, or Computer Ethics)
U.S. History/Government (3 credits ex. American Government, American History, etc.)
Non-U.S. History or Culture (3 credits (art, literature, history, foreign language or religion course, Western Civilization I or II)
Global Understanding (3 credits) (Religions of the World, Cultural Anthropology, Comparative Economic Systems, Comparative Political Systems, International Business, International Economics, International Marketing, etc.)
Literature and Fine Arts (3 credits) (Music Appreciation, Art Appreciation, Art History, Music History, Theater, Dance, Creative Writing, Drawing, Literature)
Social/Behavioral Sciences (3 credits) Examples: Anthropology, Criminal Justice, Economics, Gerontology, Psychology, Sociology, Political Science
Mathematics (3 credits)
Natural Sciences (7-8 credits) One 4-credit course that includes a lab must be taken. The second course can be either a 4-credit lab or a 3-credit course without a lab.Examples: Astronomy, Biology, Chemistry, Environmental Science, Geology, Oceanography, Physical Geography, Physics.
If you didn't know, one course is typically worth 3 credits.
Also after, she completes the free courses from Sophia, you get a $50 off coupon. Use that $50 off coupon for the Sophia course titled "College Success" and it will be free. Thanks so much. She'll be 18 in Dec. so that's not a problem.
I didn't know that (50.00) about the Sophia class. Thanks!
Natural science with a lab - do you have any idea if that can be done online at study.com, shmoop or ALEKS?
It sounds like ALEKS is really only for Math? Algebra, Trigonometry and a course in statistics...Are there other classes we should look at there?
Shmoop is excepted at COSC, yes? but not TESU, right?
This college stuff is all new to us. I went to a trade school and my husband went into the military so I appreciate your patience and grace to help walk me through.
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06-09-2019, 10:43 PM
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(06-09-2019, 10:02 PM)Stepeanie Wrote: (06-09-2019, 09:15 PM)quigongene Wrote: CLEPs are free for the time being through modernstates.org. Thanks, I just saw that today. When does that expire? do you know?
(06-09-2019, 09:27 PM)MNomadic Wrote: 1) find out which school/program she wants to do. If she wants to do TESU, Shmoop is completely out. If she wants to do a school different than the big 3, check to see if they accept ACE and/or have specific partnerships with ALEKs, study.com and Shmoop. I think right now, COSC is the recommended school for a general AA and/or BA.
2) start with the gen Ed requirements that are required for most all degrees: English comp 1 & 2, math(whatever level she's at), at least 1 science, some social studies courses(history, government, intro to sociology/psychology) and others.
She's open to which ever she can gain a degree in for the least amount of money using those free resources above. I think we're leaning towards COSC unless someone has another idea?
(06-09-2019, 09:54 PM)natshar Wrote: With ALEKS math the most courses you could do is three courses: algebra, trigonometry and a course in statistics. They also have precalculus but if you do algebra or trig then you can't get credit for it. So if you want to get the most possible credit with ALEKS just do those three courses.
If you choose Shoomp TESU is out because they don't accept it. However, I heard COSC is the cheapest anyways. Plus TESU has gotten really strict and doesn't admit anyone under 18.
Here are Charter Oaks Gen Eds. She can work from there:
Written Communication (6 credits English Composition 1 and 2)
Oral Communication (3 credits (ex. Principles of Speech, Principles of Public Speaking)
Ethical Decision-Making (3 credits ex. ethics, Business Ethics, Health Care Ethics, or Computer Ethics)
U.S. History/Government (3 credits ex. American Government, American History, etc.)
Non-U.S. History or Culture (3 credits (art, literature, history, foreign language or religion course, Western Civilization I or II)
Global Understanding (3 credits) (Religions of the World, Cultural Anthropology, Comparative Economic Systems, Comparative Political Systems, International Business, International Economics, International Marketing, etc.)
Literature and Fine Arts (3 credits) (Music Appreciation, Art Appreciation, Art History, Music History, Theater, Dance, Creative Writing, Drawing, Literature)
Social/Behavioral Sciences (3 credits) Examples: Anthropology, Criminal Justice, Economics, Gerontology, Psychology, Sociology, Political Science
Mathematics (3 credits)
Natural Sciences (7-8 credits) One 4-credit course that includes a lab must be taken. The second course can be either a 4-credit lab or a 3-credit course without a lab.Examples: Astronomy, Biology, Chemistry, Environmental Science, Geology, Oceanography, Physical Geography, Physics.
If you didn't know, one course is typically worth 3 credits.
Also after, she completes the free courses from Sophia, you get a $50 off coupon. Use that $50 off coupon for the Sophia course titled "College Success" and it will be free. Thanks so much. She'll be 18 in Dec. so that's not a problem.
I didn't know that (50.00) about the Sophia class. Thanks!
Natural science with a lab - do you have any idea if that can be done online at study.com, shmoop or ALEKS?
It sounds like ALEKS is really only for Math? Algebra, Trigonometry and a course in statistics...Are there other classes we should look at there?
Shmoop is excepted at COSC, yes? but not TESU, right?
This college stuff is all new to us. I went to a trade school and my husband went into the military so I appreciate your patience and grace to help walk me through. The modern states deal was recently extended for the foreseeable future. We can't know exactly how long it will last.
CoSC is one of the top choices for a cheap degree at this point, especially if she's going for an AA.
Natural science with a lab can be accomplished completely online with study.com's general biology with lab course. It will only cost an extra $40 to do virtual labs through labster. Most other online labs require a physical lab kit that costs over $100.
Natshar is right, only those 3 math courses are available from ALEKs.
Shmoop is accepted at COSC.
Oh yeah and here's the free and free-ish sources of credit from the wiki: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Fr..._of_Credit
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COSC is the only good cheap option for an AA, and she could stay with them to do her BA after that, although she can also change her mind later.
I would do some UL courses for the AA, just so she can kill 2 birds with 1 stone if she stays there, or even if she switches. Also, I'd do Study.com first and get a bunch of UL's done, because those are the more expensive option - you could always sign up for Shmoop later if you wanted, and it's only $88/mo unlimited courses, and ALEKS is $20/mo. Take advantage of the more expensive option while you don't have to pay!
1) Written Comm II - ENGL 305: Advanced Technical Writing (Study.com)
2) Oral Comm - Public Speaking
3) Ethics - Advanced Business Ethics (Study.com)
4) US History/Government - HIS 306: The American Civil War Era, HIS 308: Causes & Effects of the Vietnam War or HIS 311: The Holocaust and WWII (all UL from Study.com)
5) Non-US History or Culture -
6) Global Understanding - BUS 308: Globalization and International Management or MARK 303: Global Marketing (UL from Study.com)
7) Lit & Fine Arts - ENGL 310: Short Stories (UL Study.com)
8) Social/Behavioral Science - PSY 104: Social Psychology, PSY 105: Research Methods in Psychology, or PSY 106: Abnormal Psychology (UL Study.com)
9) Math - College Algebra or Stats from anywhere
10) Natural Sciences w/lab - BIO 101L: Intro to Biology w/Lab (study.com - only $40 add-on for the lab)
I would also choose the 2 things you want to get your BALS/BSLS concentration in - and do those UL courses as well. Psych is easy to find, so is business.
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(06-09-2019, 11:25 PM)dfrecore Wrote: COSC is the only good cheap option for an AA, and she could stay with them to do her BA after that, although she can also change her mind later.
I would do some UL courses for the AA, just so she can kill 2 birds with 1 stone if she stays there, or even if she switches. Also, I'd do Study.com first and get a bunch of UL's done, because those are the more expensive option - you could always sign up for Shmoop later if you wanted, and it's only $88/mo unlimited courses, and ALEKS is $20/mo. Take advantage of the more expensive option while you don't have to pay!
1) Written Comm II - ENGL 305: Advanced Technical Writing (Study.com)
2) Oral Comm - Public Speaking
3) Ethics - Advanced Business Ethics (Study.com)
4) US History/Government - HIS 306: The American Civil War Era, HIS 308: Causes & Effects of the Vietnam War or HIS 311: The Holocaust and WWII (all UL from Study.com)
5) Non-US History or Culture -
6) Global Understanding - BUS 308: Globalization and International Management or MARK 303: Global Marketing (UL from Study.com)
7) Lit & Fine Arts - ENGL 310: Short Stories (UL Study.com)
8) Social/Behavioral Science - PSY 104: Social Psychology, PSY 105: Research Methods in Psychology, or PSY 106: Abnormal Psychology (UL Study.com)
9) Math - College Algebra or Stats from anywhere
10) Natural Sciences w/lab - BIO 101L: Intro to Biology w/Lab (study.com - only $40 add-on for the lab)
I would also choose the 2 things you want to get your BALS/BSLS concentration in - and do those UL courses as well. Psych is easy to find, so is business. Thanks! This is sooo helpful. This is exactly the kind of help and thinking I needed. Any other thoughts?
I wonder which is faster or easier Business or Psych? I think she's leaning towards business or marketing.
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Please confirm they type subscriptions/membership she has with the providers - Study.com, ALEKS, and Shmoop all offer subscription levels that do not include ACE/NCCRS approved courses (no college credit). If her school is providing them at no cost I suspect it likely she has the non-credit level access.
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