Oral Communication - TESC

[alzee]

COM-108 also fulfills the requirement, and that's what Straighterline's intro to communication course transfers in as.

How do you figure this? SLs COM101 does substitute for TESU's COM-108, but COM-108 isn't listed as fulfilling the oral communications requirement @ TESU. Only COM-209 (public speaking) and COM-202 (technical communication) are listed -- neither of which have an SL equivalent.

[josephmarzullo]

How do you figure this? SLs COM101 does substitute for TESU's COM-108, but COM-108 isn't listed as fulfilling the oral communications requirement @ TESU. Only COM-209 (public speaking) and COM-202 (technical communication) are listed -- neither of which have an SL equivalent.

Damn. So I signed up for nothing? Well...atleast it's credit

[adavis84]

How do you figure this? SLs COM101 does substitute for TESU's COM-108, but COM-108 isn't listed as fulfilling the oral communications requirement @ TESU. Only COM-209 (public speaking) and COM-202 (technical communication) are listed -- neither of which have an SL equivalent.

If you search around the forum, there are a few recent threads/posts where TESU has been accepting it/placing it as fulfilling the requirement. My COM108 transfer equivalency is not from SL (rather a B&M "Intro to Comm" course from 12 years ago), but does fulfill the requirement under my ASBA.

ETA:
http://www.degreeforum.net/excelsior-tho...-oral.html

http://www.degreeforum.net/excelsior-tho...-arts.html

[alzee]

Ahhh.. thanks adavis. It's a real struggle to find alternatives to some of these courses. I wish they'd do a better job of keeping such things current, but of course that doesn't really serve their interests.

[sanantone]

The list that TESU gives for gen ed requirements only includes TESU courses and TECEPs. TESU doesn't offer some of the courses that can be used for the requirements.

[Leherself]

How do you figure this? SLs COM101 does substitute for TESU's COM-108, but COM-108 isn't listed as fulfilling the oral communications requirement @ TESU. Only COM-209 (public speaking) and COM-202 (technical communication) are listed -- neither of which have an SL equivalent.

COM-108 is what I have currently filling *my* oral communications requirement at TESU. I enrolled in January of this year, so I'm pretty sure my info is current

The thing about the gen ed course lists is that they're not the only courses that can fulfill those requirements - they're just the courses that happen to be offered at TESU that fill those requirements. TESU doesn't offer a COM-108 class, but they will accept transfer equivalencies for the requirement.

[alzee]

The list that TESU gives for gen ed requirements only includes TESU courses and TECEPs. TESU doesn't offer some of the courses that can be used for the requirements.

That's true but it wasn't the source of m confusion. There are three TESU courses mentioned: COM-108, COM-202, COM-209. TESU only says the latter two meet the "Oral Communication" requirement.

SL says that their COM101 covers TESU's COM-108 -- which isn't one of the two that.

Apparently an adviser communicated that SL's COM101 covers the requirement as well.

My only confusion then is why SL's COM101 (apparently) doesn't substitute for one of the other two (COM-202 or COM-209).

I'll check with an adviser personally as well just to be sure. Like everyone else, I don't want to waste time or money doing courses that may end up only counting as electives when I'm trying to focus on gen-ed requirements.

[adavis84]

Let me see if I can clear this up for you:

You cannot take a course at TESU called COM 108. COM 108 exists only as a transfer equivalency.

As sanantone and leherself said, TESU does not list courses they do not offer as explicitly fulfilling requirements. They will, however, frequently accept many courses not specifically listed as fulfilling degree requirements.

SL COM101 doesn't substitute for COM-202 or COM-209 as it is not equivalent in any way to those courses.

[Leherself]

That's true but it wasn't the source of m confusion. There are three TESU courses mentioned: COM-108, COM-202, COM-209. TESU only says the latter two meet the "Oral Communication" requirement.

SL says that their COM101 covers TESU's COM-108 -- which isn't one of the two that.

I think this is your source of confusion - TESU doesn't *have* a COM-108 class. TESU gives all transfer credit a particular code - it standardizes things so that incoming students who have taken a particular type of class can know that it's being evaluated in the same way as other people who've taken a similar class. TESU has hundreds of codes, but only actually offers a few dozen classes.

TESU only lists the courses they actually offer as part of their gen ed list (and I think thry phrase it as "these are the courses you can take *at TESU* to fulfill these requirements." It isn't intended to address what credit you can transfer in to meet a requirement - it's not a laundry list of all the options.

Those of us who are recommending this class as an option aren't relying on hearsay about what an advisor said - many of us have actually transferred in that specific class, and have had it successfully applied to our degree prigram in that category. As I said in a previous post, for me that was just last month.

COM-108 is Fundamentals of Oral Communication - that code describes a general communications course that includes some sort of public speaking component.
COM-209 is Public Speaking - that describes a course that is dedicated solely to public speaking, not a general communications course.
I have no personal experience with any course that would be called Technical Communication, and wouldn't know what would apply to that.

SL's course is clearly a general introductory communications course that happens to include a public speaking component (therefore COM-108). I believe that intro communications courses without a speaking component would be coded as COM-100 or COM-101. The fact that the SL course has a requirement for speeches (same as the DSST Public Speaking Exam) is what allows it to meet the Oral Communication gen ed requirement.

[alzee]

Thanks to both of you... massive lightbulb moment.