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[ss20ts]

If you're wanting to do your MBA in person, then you need to find an MBA program that's local to you unless you're planning on relocating to complete a degree. In person will take longer. You may or may not be able to network.

I don't know if a TOEFL from 10 years ago will be accepted.

I'm partial to UMPI. I completed 2 bachelor's degrees at UMPI including their BABA with Marketing Concentration. TESU is also a good program. It all depends on if you want exams or papers. UMPI will be papers. They are not essays but college research papers ranging from 3-5 pages long to over 15 pages long. You must follow APA or MLA - depending on the course requirements. You also must do your own work. There are professors who will ask questions to confirm that you did the work.

One piece of advice I have is to look into MBA programs and find a few that you will want to apply to. You need to know what their admissions requirements are. Each one will be different. Some programs require specific courses that need to be completed as an undergraduate. Some will not accept an ACE course as proof of completing the course. I say this because I am in an MBA program now that required 4-5 courses to be completed as an undergrad and if they wren't then I had to complete them as a grad student which meant taking longer to complete my MBA because I wouldn't be able to begin the MBA classes until I completed those requirements. It can also cost significantly more money.

[Saulbaba]

If you're wanting to do your MBA in person, then you need to find an MBA program that's local to you unless you're planning on relocating to complete a degree. In person will take longer. You may or may not be able to network.

I don't know if a TOEFL from 10 years ago will be accepted.

I'm partial to UMPI. I completed 2 bachelor's degrees at UMPI including their BABA with Marketing Concentration. TESU is also a good program. It all depends on if you want exams or papers. UMPI will be papers. They are not essays but college research papers ranging from 3-5 pages long to over 15 pages long. You must follow APA or MLA - depending on the course requirements. You also must do your own work. There are professors who will ask questions to confirm that you did the work.

One piece of advice I have is to look into MBA programs and find a few that you will want to apply to. You need to know what their admissions requirements are. Each one will be different. Some programs require specific courses that need to be completed as an undergraduate. Some will not accept an ACE course as proof of completing the course. I say this because I am in an MBA program now that required 4-5 courses to be completed as an undergrad and if they wren't then I had to complete them as a grad student which meant taking longer to complete my MBA because I wouldn't be able to begin the MBA classes until I completed those requirements. It can also cost significantly more money.

Is it the same requirement for online MBA or MBAs from different countries eg germany or spain. Regardless what opportunities can I have solely with a bachelors cause me and my wife are both looking to do one. Should i decide between Thomas or UMPI only, in my case or is it worth it look to the other ones. Considering ease and affordability.

Is it easier to go through exam route in case of TESU with minimum proctored exams required to complete a degree and also there is the RA credit requirements, UMPI seems easier in general? 

Also can you share the research you did before applying to a MBA and which one you settled on, are online MBAs worth it from coursera etc.

[dfrecore]

If you want an MBA from a Top 10 school, you're better off spending a lot of money to go to a much more prestigious school for your bachelor's degree. So budget at least $50k for a bachelor's and another $75k for an MBA.

Or, budget $5k for a UMPI business degree, and then $20k for a local (to you) MBA program.

Even better, budget $5k for a UMPI business degree, get a job, and see if you actually need an MBA right away.

[Saulbaba]

If you want an MBA from a Top 10 school, you're better off spending a lot of money to go to a much more prestigious school for your bachelor's degree.  So budget at least $50k for a bachelor's and another $75k for an MBA.

Or, budget $5k for a UMPI business degree, and then $20k for a local (to you) MBA program.

Even better, budget $5k for a UMPI business degree, get a job, and see if you actually need an MBA right away.

Honestly MBA is an afterthought at the moment i just need to get my bachelor’s to get a good job and then can go for local MBA as you said. My confusion is exam vs papers based bachelors which is easier UMPI VS TESU or any other school for bachelor I have seen ashkir’s degree plans for BABA seems pretty impressive relatively easier. What are your thoughts only thing about TESU is that its BSBA are ACBSP accredited if that even matters. Im a complete noob starting from scratch did high school ten years so need as much guidance as possible to make a informed decision.

[dfrecore]

If you want an MBA from a Top 10 school, you're better off spending a lot of money to go to a much more prestigious school for your bachelor's degree.  So budget at least $50k for a bachelor's and another $75k for an MBA.

Or, budget $5k for a UMPI business degree, and then $20k for a local (to you) MBA program.

Even better, budget $5k for a UMPI business degree, get a job, and see if you actually need an MBA right away.

Honestly MBA is an afterthought at the moment i just need to get my bachelor’s to get a good job and then can go for local MBA as you said. My confusion is exam vs papers based bachelors which is easier UMPI VS TESU or any other school for bachelor I have seen ashkir’s degree plans for BABA seems pretty impressive relatively easier. What are your thoughts only thing about TESU is that its BSBA are ACBSP accredited if that even matters. Im a complete noob starting from scratch did high school ten years so need as much guidance as possible to make a informed decision.

UMPI and TESU are both state schools, so no big difference there.  TESU has ACBSP, which generally doesn't matter much (virtually no employer is going to ask for this).  But it MIGHT make a difference when you go to get your MBA some day.  Then again, it might not.

So the biggest difference is that at TESU, you'll get to choose where 114cr come from - if you like testing out, you can do CLEP/DSST/Saylor/Davar/Coopersmith, if you like courses, you can choose Sophia, Study.com, etc.  If you go with UMPI, you'll get to choose where 90cr come from, and you're a bit more limited on where (no NCCRS credits, so no Davar or Coopersmith), but can still choose between testing and taking courses.

It's that last bit (6cr at TESU, 30cr at UMPI) that really makes a difference - TESU is going to require quite a bit of writing for both the cornerstone and capstone, and UMPI is going to require writing for every course you take there (at least 10 courses).  But some will be less writing than even a SDC course - for instance the Composition II course at UMPI is less writing than either Sophia or SDC require for their Comp II course.

It's just a matter of preference.  So my advice is to map out both a UMPI BABA degree, and a TESU BSBA degree - and then do all of the courses that they have in common to see where you land.  You might think that you hate writing, but then find that it's not so bad, or find that you like not having everything come down to how you do on a single exam. Or you might think that you love testing, but find that you don't do great, or it's a lot of work to study for them, and a course might have been easier.

Once you figure out what you prefer, it's then that you can determine which direction you'd rather go.

[bjcheung77]

@Saulbaba, habla español? Amigo, ¿eres Méxicano? Sometimes it's hard to decide which degree/school is right for you. So, put that aside for a moment, and just start taking courses that go towards both the TESU and UMPI degrees.  When you're done with about 30, 45, 60 or more credits, you'll know your learning style and would know which would be better for you.

What I recommend is the following, invest in a second monitor for multi-tasking and start on the non-proctored CSM Learn course.  Once done, do all the Sophia.org courses in the 4 months for $299 using their 25% off discount, start with the courses without a touchstone and progress further until all that go towards both of them are done.

Again, Invest in a second monitor, complete the CSM Learn course, start working on non-proctored courses from Sophia.  Link: Sophia.org Equivalency List
1) Sign up for CSM Learn, https://www.smilabs.org/products/csmcourse
Wiki: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/CSM_Learn

2) Sign up for Sophia.org, it's $99/month, I suggest trying to complete all of these and more within two months.  Better yet, get the 25% off discount and do 4 months for $299 instead. Complete the courses that transfer to institutions of your choice, it's all non-proctored, use the second monitor to review the e-books/pdf files.

Personally, I think it's a 50/50 between TESU and UMPI, it's all personal preference and you decide which is geared closer to your study habits.  I suggest once you are done with the above, you'll be 3/4th of the way with over 90 credits towards your degree.  Update the thread with your choice (if you still haven't decided, update us anyways for further instructions to complete the degree...)

Side Note: For TESU, I recommend taking the 16 RA residency credits and for UMPI, you must take 30 credits residency.

[Saulbaba]

Thank you guys for your suggestions. I have made my mind and Im going to pursue TESU with max credits from sophia then study and the RA credits. I really don’t like writing and willing to test out for the minimum courses required and will be doing the last 16 residency credits at TESU according to the credit optimization WIKI. Im going through the sophia equivalency for TESU and quite few courses seem outdated and not listed on TESU site for Art history 1&2 are not longer listed at TESU. Also I understand there is required two maths courses of one which CSM fulfills the other can it be math course for sophia like college algebra for BSBA. Also in the buisness core there is intro to statistics can that be done from sophia too. Basically what im saying is i need an updated degree plan for BSBA entrepreneurship or marketing degree with max sophia, and other non proctored course and minimum proctored study.com or 4 or 8 RA course.  I know I'm asking same kind of questions again and again but i don’t want to start taking wrong courses from sophia or any place else that don’t count any more. So i would highly appreciate if i can get a updated degree plan and or updated equivalency lists. Otherwise a lisst of sophia courses without touchstone that i should get on right away after CSM.Is CSM not proctored? .I can not understand spanish im from Asia

[bjcheung77]

@Saulbaba, Where in Asia are you from? I thought you were from Mexico for some reason. Oops, anyways, yeah, the CSM Learn course is non-proctored, it's one of three math courses you need, the other two College Algebra and Statistics can be done at Sophia.org... When did TESU stop taking Sophia.org Art History I & II, I don't recall that, they should take the courses as the WIKI indicates. Your RA credits should come from TECEPS, the 16 residency credits can be easy courses, E-Packs, or a mix of them.

[Saulbaba]

Thanks you BJcheung77. Im from Pakistan just moved to the US couple of years ago so everything is still new to me .So the question remains. Sophia equivalency list is it up to date? cause i coudnt find ART-166 or ART-167 History of Western Art I and II listed on the course catalog on TESU and few other course. So if you please so be kind just tell/give me list of Sophia GENed, electives any maybe business core courses I should start with I would really appreciate. Anyways im starting with three math courses right now and will probably need your guidance from time to time. Thank you for understanding and guidance. I hope im not being annoying with these questions

[LevelUP]

UMPI is the cheapest and quickest way to go. Your cost is $1400/$2800 (1/2 terms) + Sophia/Study.com costs

TESU takes longer if you have to gather up 24 RA credits. You are looking at a minimum of $6000  + Sophia/Study.com costs.

The TESU cornerstone/capstone is 7 papers each, + forums + the final paper. In addition, there is one midterm exam with the business capstone. Those two courses are equivalent to around five courses at UMPI. 

Regardless of which route you pick, you will have a mix of exams and papers, considering you are taking Study.com/Sophia courses.

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