European Credit Transfer System

[rachel83az]

Rachel83az: It wouldn't be direct, as already stated by ROYISAGIRL but ECTS from an actual university should still count as RA credits because the studies were completed at a university. The evaluator tells the American university what the completed studies "mean" and how they should be applied.

What is DL? Is it a university or are the certificates granted by actual universities? If not, they probably wouldn't count as RA credits. XAMK is currently the "best" deal for ECTS at a cost of $0 per ECTS. Unfortunately, the courses they offer wouldn't necessarily apply to any and every degree. Mostly to business or CS degrees.

Johann: They seem to be a mix. Most are taught by private schools and when completed, certified and awarded by partner universities. ENEB/Isabel 1 type of thing -- with them or some other players. Some directly from the university, I believe - not 100% sure. Thanks for the info. Looks like yes, it's possible but I'm pretty sure course-by course evaluation would likely cost more than some of the certificates. Still, if you could get 60 ECTS points evaluated as 30 credits for say, $300, that would be pretty cheap, even when you add in the cost of the cert. 

As I thought, it's not possible without a recognized evaluation. I got the impression that some (elsewhere) believed it could be done with NO intermediary - but only at the Big 3, by some special process. Not so, obviously..

Thanks, Rachel and Roy, for the info. Really clear.

I guess I should have phrased it better: Where is DL; what is their website? What does DL stand for?

[Thorne]

Rachel83az: It wouldn't be direct, as already stated by ROYISAGIRL but ECTS from an actual university should still count as RA credits because the studies were completed at a university. The evaluator tells the American university what the completed studies "mean" and how they should be applied.

What is DL? Is it a university or are the certificates granted by actual universities? If not, they probably wouldn't count as RA credits. XAMK is currently the "best" deal for ECTS at a cost of $0 per ECTS. Unfortunately, the courses they offer wouldn't necessarily apply to any and every degree. Mostly to business or CS degrees.

Johann: They seem to be a mix. Most are taught by private schools and when completed, certified and awarded by partner universities. ENEB/Isabel 1 type of thing -- with them or some other players. Some directly from the university, I believe - not 100% sure. Thanks for the info. Looks like yes, it's possible but I'm pretty sure course-by course evaluation would likely cost more than some of the certificates. Still, if you could get 60 ECTS points evaluated as 30 credits for say, $300, that would be pretty cheap, even when you add in the cost of the cert. 

As I thought, it's not possible without a recognized evaluation. I got the impression that some (elsewhere) believed it could be done with NO intermediary - but only at the Big 3, by some special process. Not so, obviously..

Thanks, Rachel and Roy, for the info. Really clear.

I've found some NA and RA schools that actually do accept credits from other schools without a NACES/AICE evaluation, same with several Aussie universities that I've been looking at. Usually is done by an internal process in those cases.

I guess I should have phrased it better: Where is DL; what is their website? What does DL stand for?

Distance Learning, not a website. DL is more commonly used in this community on the sister forum (DegreeInfo)

[rachel83az]

Rachel83az: It wouldn't be direct, as already stated by ROYISAGIRL but ECTS from an actual university should still count as RA credits because the studies were completed at a university. The evaluator tells the American university what the completed studies "mean" and how they should be applied.

What is DL? Is it a university or are the certificates granted by actual universities? If not, they probably wouldn't count as RA credits. XAMK is currently the "best" deal for ECTS at a cost of $0 per ECTS. Unfortunately, the courses they offer wouldn't necessarily apply to any and every degree. Mostly to business or CS degrees.

Johann: They seem to be a mix. Most are taught by private schools and when completed, certified and awarded by partner universities. ENEB/Isabel 1 type of thing -- with them or some other players. Some directly from the university, I believe - not 100% sure. Thanks for the info. Looks like yes, it's possible but I'm pretty sure course-by course evaluation would likely cost more than some of the certificates. Still, if you could get 60 ECTS points evaluated as 30 credits for say, $300, that would be pretty cheap, even when you add in the cost of the cert. 

As I thought, it's not possible without a recognized evaluation. I got the impression that some (elsewhere) believed it could be done with NO intermediary - but only at the Big 3, by some special process. Not so, obviously..

Thanks, Rachel and Roy, for the info. Really clear.

I've found some NA and RA schools that actually do accept credits from other schools without a NACES/AICE evaluation, same with several Aussie universities that I've been looking at. Usually is done by an internal process in those cases.

I guess I should have phrased it better: Where is DL; what is their website? What does DL stand for?

Distance Learning, not a website. DL is more commonly used in this community on the sister forum (DegreeInfo)

Oh, okay, I thought it had to be a specific platform akin to Coursera, edX, or FutureLearn because pretty much everything we're doing here is distance learning. And the few certificates I've seen that grant ECTS tend to be not inexpensive, IMO. The exception being the ones offered by XAMK.

[Johann]

Thorne:

I've found some NA and RA schools that actually do accept credits from other schools without a NACES/AICE evaluation, same with several Aussie universities that I've been looking at. Usually is done by an internal process in those cases.


Johann:

Those RA and NA schools accept credits directly that were earned from European schools? Good news for some, then. My concern was that I read (elsewhere) someone claiming that these ECTS  could be taken to the Big 3 and converted to RA credits by internal process without evaluator or any intermediary "by those who know how to do it" - and I was pretty sure no double-secret alchemy of that kind exists.

If there were some way of getting ECTS rubber-stamped into RA credits by the Big 3 and then (possibly) used as transfer credit somewhere else -- then the knowledgeable people from THIS forum would have done it long ago. There are some pretty smart people here - who ARE earning ECTS for use on electives at Big 3. They ALL mention the use of WES or other evaluators is involved. Good enough for me. Case closed.