Ed4Credit.com has 27 new ACE approved courses

[cookderosa]

I have never seen any course, at any college, in which you automatically failed if you scored under 70% on a single quiz. That just seems way over the top. There is no way I would risk spending the money for one of my kids to take a course which could be failed that easily.

It's ridiculous. I taught college courses for 18 years - I would have been overruled had I tried to pull that on a student. In addition, I think this "I am certain that as the other companies go through re-accreditation they too will have to deal with the increased requirements ACE is putting into place." is a fib intended to cover the silly pass/fail structure Ed4Credit came up with all by their lonesome. ACE requires no such thing. ACE consistently requires course scores at 70%, not individual quiz scores. I've already wasted too much brain space on this "new" company. DeRosa out.

[swalke321]

The ACE courses I have taken were closer to the 50% for final exam and 70% overall. There were a couple of courses where I did score below 70% on an individual quiz but scored well above 70% overall. Some courses do allow a retake for the graded quiz/test while others only allow one try for the graded quiz/test.

[rowan555]

I agree that this is a weird system, but I'm kind of shocked that anyone thinks 70% is too rigorous or unreasonable.

Foe each and every quiz? Really? My 15 year old son is taking courses via Study.com, and there are 100 or more quizzes per course. He was not feeling good the other day and scored a 40% on one of his quizzes. Shit happens. One quiz should never be the determining factor in whether a course is passed or failed.

[topdog98]

I am seriously not trying to argue here, but I really don't understand the level of outrage about this. Two tries for 70% on quizzes and 50% on the final to pass seems perfectly reasonable to me.

And they are not the only company that has mentioned that ACE was cracking down. I am not trying to be argumentative, but I don't see any reason to suspect dishonesty on their part. It seems to me like they are working hard to placate their customers and ACE.

[jsd]

Foe each and every quiz? Really? My 15 year old son is taking courses via Study.com, and there are 100 or more quizzes per course. He was not feeling good the other day and scored a 40% on one of his quizzes. Shit happens. One quiz should never be the determining factor in whether a course is passed or failed.

Their structure is different, they don't have hundreds of quizzes. And if you have a "bad day," at 40%, you have another chance at it. That seems reasonable. If someone is consistently getting 40%, though, it's pretty clear they don't know the material.

It's not like CLEP/DSST/TECEP/UExcel etc let you fail and give you a free do-over.

[dfrecore]

Similarly, the TESU BA Sociology has a required "Social Theory" course that has no test-out option available, and in general Sociology courses (other than intro) are scarce.

I think this is not a particular course that you have to take, but a category that a course has to fit into. It needs to be a course on theory related to sociology, rather than "social theory" as a class. TESU doesn't offer a course called Social Theory at all.

[dfrecore]

I have a friend that is interested in taking courses, and he has no college credits. He is brand new, and might struggle a little bit with a quiz here or there. So, with the possibility that he might get a bad grade on a single quiz and fail the course, there is no way he should sign up for an Ed4Credit course because of this grading system, especially with the higher cost of the courses.

jsd - I get that you think that this is not a high bar, but this is not a bar that is set for any other course than I can think of, including a course at a B&M school! You should be allowed to fail a single quiz and still pass a class if you do ok on the rest of the quizzes, midterm and final.

[jsd]

I think this is not a particular course that you have to take, but a category that a course has to fit into. It needs to be a course on theory related to sociology, rather than "social theory" as a class. TESU doesn't offer a course called Social Theory at all.

The Sociology degree is not one that can be completed 100% using TESU courses, they have lots of degrees that they don't offer required courses for. Those programs are meant for degree completion only. this part is wrong, see my reply below correctingg myself.


While I'm sure, as you're saying, other courses would fit the social theory label, there are many many traditional courses named "social theory," "sociological theory," "modern social theory, etc." These are probably more in tune with what TESU is looking for.

The closest we have to something that folks like us forum users would want is CSU Pueblo's IS course "Contemporary Sociological Theory," but it's expensive ($525)

Here's the course from TESU's PLA database that I'm sure they are looking for

Sociological Theory   (SOC-380)   3.00 s.h.  ***
Foundations of social theory; Comte, Durkheim, Marx, Weber, and others - contributors to major orientations in the nature and historical development of modern society in the Western World.

[jsd]

jsd - I get that you think that this is not a high bar, but this is not a bar that is set for any other course than I can think of, including a course at a B&M school! You should be allowed to fail a single quiz and still pass a class if you do ok on the rest of the quizzes, midterm and final.

They allow you to fail each quiz once and still pass the class. If a real college course did that, it'd be laughable.

[jsd]

TESU doesn't offer a course called Social Theory at all.

This is the TESU course they offer for this requirement:

Thomas Edison State University | Courses & Schedules

(Contrary to what I said above, the soc degree is not a degree completion program, it can be completed entirely at TESU)