ENEB Master Thread

[Sofia2024]

Hi, one question:

I have seen several examples of ENEB transcripts and it is not very clear to me.

In the new transcripts, through the multiple-choice test, is the date of enrolment or only the date of completion?.

In some I see ‘Enrolment date’ and in others ‘Transcript record’.

The secretary's office does not answer me about this.

Thank you

[nykorn]

I logged in to the ENEB campus and I now see a section on the right which tells me I can click there to view my digital diplomas.

When I click there I do get to the diploma section (which was previously only accessible by a link ENEB personally sent to me in an Email) but Chrome also tells me my username and password have been leaked in a data hacking.

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In the new transcripts, through the multiple-choice test, is the date of enrolment or only the date of completion?.

In some I see ‘Enrolment date’ and in others ‘Transcript record’.

My transcripts (issued 2024) don't have any dates at all. No enrollment date and no completion date. I posted photos just a few pages ago.

The diplomas themselves have a conferral date, this is not the same thing as a completion date. The transcript has a transcript record number, but this is not a date.

There is no difference in transcripts or degrees between multiple choice and homework methodologies.

[NotJoeBiden]

I logged in to the ENEB campus and I now see a section on the right which tells me I can click there to view my digital diplomas.

When I click there I do get to the diploma section (which was previously only accessible by a link ENEB personally sent to me in an Email) but Chrome also tells me my username and password have been leaked in a data hacking.

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In the new transcripts, through the multiple-choice test, is the date of enrolment or only the date of completion?.

In some I see ‘Enrolment date’ and in others ‘Transcript record’.

My transcripts (issued 2024) don't have any dates at all. No enrollment date and no completion date. I posted photos just a few pages ago.

The diplomas themselves have a conferral date, this is not the same thing as a completion date. The transcript has a transcript record number, but this is not a date.

There is no difference in transcripts or degrees between multiple choice and homework methodologies.

The only possibly detectable way is that for the test all classes will get the same grade, while most people do not get the same grade for the essay format.

[nykorn]

The only possibly detectable way is that for the test all classes will get the same grade, while most people do not get the same grade for the essay format.

Yeah. And most employers aren't going to go that far when researching a candidate's original credentials when they have the degree equivalency (or QR verification) right there. Anyone who's worried should do the homework though.

[michaeladsmith2]

The only possibly detectable way is that for the test all classes will get the same grade, while most people do not get the same grade for the essay format.

Yeah. And most employers aren't going to go that far when researching a candidate's original credentials when they have the degree equivalency (or QR verification) right there. Anyone who's worried should do the homework though.

Just my opinion. I am not a fan of the test format. I just completed my 4th Masters with ENEB. I did the Essay Format. Here in the USA, it is very difficult to promote your Masters credential as achieved by a test. All Colleges/Universities will ask for a letter grade [most assuredly with a FCE Report], and in most cases they will ask for a few writing samples; especially for Doctoral admissions or transfer into an equal US Masters program.

Second, when it comes to employers, licensing, and State/Federal employment, again, while some may not ask, many will ask for a letter grade and a body of academic work that shows you have graduate-level writing, comprehension and skills. 

Testing for a Masters may work in other parts of the world, but it is very much shunned & scrutinized here in the USA.

[NotJoeBiden]

The only possibly detectable way is that for the test all classes will get the same grade, while most people do not get the same grade for the essay format.

Yeah. And most employers aren't going to go that far when researching a candidate's original credentials when they have the degree equivalency (or QR verification) right there. Anyone who's worried should do the homework though.

Just my opinion. I am not a fan of the test format. I just completed my 4th Masters with ENEB. I did the Essay Format. Here in the USA, it is very difficult to promote your Masters credential as achieved by a test. All Colleges/Universities will ask for a letter grade [most assuredly with a FCE Report], and in most cases they will ask for a few writing samples; especially for Doctoral admissions or transfer into an equal US Masters program.

Second, when it comes to employers, licensing, and State/Federal employment, again, while some may not ask, many will ask for a letter grade and a body of academic work that shows you have graduate-level writing, comprehension and skills. 

Testing for a Masters may work in other parts of the world, but it is very much shunned & scrutinized here in the USA.

I see you continue to advocate for the essay method as if it is somehow more legitimate than a test, but in the end it is seen as equivalent. I can understand the rigor is different, but if ENEB, Universidad Isabel I, and IEE see it as equivalent, then why say it isnt?

Some schools may ask for a writing sample, but that can be done with any sample of writing. It doesn’t need to be from a class. Maybe some employers or licensing agencies will ask for proof of academic work, but that is not very common. Heck, most people dont save their class work after graduating. Most just want proof of a degree and will have a test or interview to make sure people are competent enough.

I think the essay route might be good for people to prepare for further grad school, prefer essay writing, or want to compile a portfolio, but I think your emphasis on their worth blown out of proportion. I have not seen any evidence to support them to be worth any less in the US.

[Jujubee1990]

The only possibly detectable way is that for the test all classes will get the same grade, while most people do not get the same grade for the essay format.

Yeah. And most employers aren't going to go that far when researching a candidate's original credentials when they have the degree equivalency (or QR verification) right there. Anyone who's worried should do the homework though.

Just my opinion. I am not a fan of the test format. I just completed my 4th Masters with ENEB. I did the Essay Format. Here in the USA, it is very difficult to promote your Masters credential as achieved by a test. All Colleges/Universities will ask for a letter grade [most assuredly with a FCE Report], and in most cases they will ask for a few writing samples; especially for Doctoral admissions or transfer into an equal US Masters program.

Second, when it comes to employers, licensing, and State/Federal employment, again, while some may not ask, many will ask for a letter grade and a body of academic work that shows you have graduate-level writing, comprehension and skills. 

Testing for a Masters may work in other parts of the world, but it is very much shunned & scrutinized here in the USA.

I love the test format. For my first master’s, I attended a traditional brick-and-mortar university, where I had to write essays for every subject plus a 100+ page thesis to graduate. It was one of the most challenging and time-consuming experiences of my life. I'm still traumatized from those years. Life is too short to be spent on something that, in the end, doesn’t carry much meaning (unless you want to pursue a PhD). In my case, I know I'm not going to do a PhD. That's why the test format is perfect. I work in higher education (IT department) in the U.S., no one or even HR has asked about my grades or whether I did graduate-level writing. They just care that I actually graduated from college.

[nykorn]

"Second, when it comes to employers, licensing, and State/Federal employment, again, while some may not ask, many will ask for a letter grade and a body of academic work that shows you have graduate-level writing, comprehension and skills."

ENEB degrees DO give you a letter grade, and thus a GPA, regardless of if you use the test format or the exam format.

The rest must heavily depend on the field.

I've graduated from two, and am soon to graduate a third, school which has only pass/fail and no GPA. There have been no issues whatsoever with employers so far, no one has even asked me about it. They have also never asked for any coursework samples, haven't asked about my final thesis, or anything like that. Sometimes they do "suggest" that I upload work samples from previous employment but I have never gotten proof they actually looked at them.

You can use ENEB degrees to get a US public school teacher license. This license can then be transferred to another state or country providing you fulfill all the other requirements. By far the easiest job for me to get was the US public school substitute teaching... there wasn't even an interview. All I had to do was upload all my documents proving I had a valid degree (NACES member evaluation) and clean background check, pay a $90-something fee, and I was granted the license and able to start work. Depending on where you live, public school teaching is considered being a government employee.

Most importantly: If anyone who took the exam is worried about an employer asking them for schoolwork samples, just do the homework after you have passed the exam. I took the exam in December 2023 and I still have access to the online campus and all the homework information.

I am a full advocate of doing the homework, putting stuff into a SRS program like Anki or SuperMemo, reading all the books in the ENEB e-campus library, and so on. Even if you go the homework route, doing all the homework once is not going to help you if you don't get a job using any of that info until 10 years later, you'll have forgotten it all.

[BadSquirrelBeta]

The only possibly detectable way is that for the test all classes will get the same grade, while most people do not get the same grade for the essay format.

Yeah. And most employers aren't going to go that far when researching a candidate's original credentials when they have the degree equivalency (or QR verification) right there. Anyone who's worried should do the homework though.

Just my opinion. I am not a fan of the test format. I just completed my 4th Masters with ENEB. I did the Essay Format. Here in the USA, it is very difficult to promote your Masters credential as achieved by a test. All Colleges/Universities will ask for a letter grade [most assuredly with a FCE Report], and in most cases they will ask for a few writing samples; especially for Doctoral admissions or transfer into an equal US Masters program.

Second, when it comes to employers, licensing, and State/Federal employment, again, while some may not ask, many will ask for a letter grade and a body of academic work that shows you have graduate-level writing, comprehension and skills. 

Testing for a Masters may work in other parts of the world, but it is very much shunned & scrutinized here in the USA.

I am right there with you my friend!  It was a personal commitment of mine to do the essay format, and keep it up after the test options came about, too.

If someone does the exam format and that is the best for them, then great.  Me, I'm just old school and I knew I would learn if I worked hard and invested in the assignments, as that was my personal bar for success in feeling good about the program completions.  I'm not in a career field where writing samples of an academic nature would be required, even though I was faculty for a licensed, private vocational school in the US for a number of years.

Congrats, too, by the way on your recent degree!  I am right where you are with no more Masters I am planning on pursuit, like your no more Bachelors rule!  But collecting degrees isn't a bad thing...I guess I'll start beefing up on cats.  LOL won't that make everyone in my house happy?!

[Xin]

The only possibly detectable way is that for the test all classes will get the same grade, while most people do not get the same grade for the essay format.

Yeah. And most employers aren't going to go that far when researching a candidate's original credentials when they have the degree equivalency (or QR verification) right there. Anyone who's worried should do the homework though.

Just my opinion. I am not a fan of the test format. I just completed my 4th Masters with ENEB. I did the Essay Format. Here in the USA, it is very difficult to promote your Masters credential as achieved by a test. All Colleges/Universities will ask for a letter grade [most assuredly with a FCE Report], and in most cases they will ask for a few writing samples; especially for Doctoral admissions or transfer into an equal US Masters program.

Second, when it comes to employers, licensing, and State/Federal employment, again, while some may not ask, many will ask for a letter grade and a body of academic work that shows you have graduate-level writing, comprehension and skills. 

Testing for a Masters may work in other parts of the world, but it is very much shunned & scrutinized here in the USA.

I am right there with you my friend!  It was a personal commitment of mine to do the essay format, and keep it up after the test options came about, too.

If someone does the exam format and that is the best for them, then great.  Me, I'm just old school and I knew I would learn if I worked hard and invested in the assignments, as that was my personal bar for success in feeling good about the program completions.  I'm not in a career field where writing samples of an academic nature would be required, even though I was faculty for a licensed, private vocational school in the US for a number of years.

Congrats, too, by the way on your recent degree!  I am right where you are with no more Masters I am planning on pursuit, like your no more Bachelors rule!  But collecting degrees isn't a bad thing...I guess I'll start beefing up on cats.  LOL won't that make everyone in my house happy?!

The process of submitting assignment documents and submissions is much simpler than in the past, where submissions were made via email and documents need to be filled out with more information.
I like this change.