ENEB Master Thread

[ReyMysterioso]

If there's a 50-question PhD, I'll bite. (That's a joke.)

[JPN]

I was almost ready to pull the trigger on a program from ENEB (even DM'd some on the more senior members of this thread for assistance) but this 50 question 2 hour exam for 60 ECTS has me spooked.  

I wrote to ENEB about this and expressed my concerns about how millish behaviour on their part could lead to reputational damage for graduates. I can easily see many resume's being trashed if it's reputation as an institution that cuts corners, gets around to recruiters.  

This is their response to me:

"I understand what you are saying and I appreciate the honesty, but let me tell you that the reputation of our institution is impeccable and the fact of speeding up the exam modality and/or class attendance for students has to do with an intention to contribute to excellence academic coupling to a professional life that our students must inevitably have (otherwise they cannot enrol).

Our programs are for professional, dedicated people who we understand are looking for a step forward in their professional development oriented to the business world.

We understand that in these times it is difficult to trust institutions whose policy is to provide training at an affordable price, but (you can see it on our website) at this moment we have a current promotion, otherwise the program you requested, for example, it is above 7 thousand euros".

So basically behind a veiled threat to hike program fees this decision has been taken to enable a greater work/life balance for students.  Duh???  If someone enrolls at an institution they should make sure they can manage their day to day lives whilst being a student and plan accordingly.  If they unfortunately don't have the time to devote to a degree, they shouldn't enrol in one. Many, many people are in that situation. People have to make choices and prioritise and this means that not everything they would like to do, can be done. It's sad but that's life!

I tried replying to you by PM but your PMs are disabled. This was the gist of what I was going to say - this is a questionable practice and I do not recommend ENEB anymore.

[bjcheung77]

For those who have completed yours, then leave it at that, for those who are on the fence in regards to getting ENEB Masters/MBA, I would hold off until they get back on track. Work on something else for now, I think more changes are coming, it's like a roller coaster ride with these offerings, they're looking at 'better ways' to help students but taking the wrong 'shortcuts'... (or if you prefer, check out other options available if you know the Spanish language.)

[BadSquirrelBeta]

I don’t know why I keep having issues with the foreign credential evaluators.

I paid for a course by course official evaluation (with the extra cost of $50.00 for the verification) with IEE, but after chatting with customer support for clarification about the documents, they changed my evaluation to a provisional one. Customer chat said it wouldn’t be different than an official evaluation with exception to how the documents are received and noted, but they included an additional note on the evaluation that I’m not happy with, and I’m not sure the jobs I’m applying for will accept now. (“This report is based on scanned academic documents at the request of the student and is provisional in nature. Receiving institutions should require the student to submit official documents to IEE for reevaluation as soon as circumstances allow.”) This statement makes it appear that I didn’t include the official electronic documents that I received from ENEB/Isabel.

IEE evaluated my Masters degree as regionally accredited and a US equivalency of a “Graduate Certificate.” BUT they also shaved my per class credits to 2.50 instead of what they gave Thodeptrai of 2.75 and later upgraded his to 3.0 per class.

What is going on? I don’t know how I can get them to rectify these issues (official vs provisional evaluation and increasing per class credits). I’ve sent a couple of emails to the admin department that sent me the evaluation, (I'm afraid of chatting with customer support again since they're the ones who told me there wasn't any difference between the evaluations (except for how they receive the documents), and that ended up being untrue), but admin hasn’t responded.

If anyone has advise or suggestions, I’m open to reading them.

Update--the bad and good.

The Bad: I heard back from IEE from someone in the document verification department. He basically told me that even though I paid for the official evaluation with the extra charge of $50.00 for the verification fee, he said that doesn't guarantee that they will provide applicants with an official evaluation. Say what?  

He also said that I'd have to pay them an additional $50.00 for them to update my evaluation to 'official.' (And with ENEB now charging to send an email of the transcripts to third parties, that's almost an additional $100.00).

I showed proof of conversations with the chat support where she specifically told me that I would be able to upload the original PDF documents that Isabel/ENEB sent me for an official evaluation. I also asked him why if applicants aren't allowed to have official evaluations with the verification fee, then why when ordering does their system allow applicants the ability to choose between three different options. https://i.imgur.com/asGvWlf.jpg

I also asked why I received lower credits per class, when other students from ENEB/Isabel are receiving higher credits per class, especially considering there are more classes in certain degrees etc.

After I sent that response, I haven't heard back.

The Good: I used the Validential FCE that I received to apply to a few government jobs. I was a bit hesitant, because some agencies will only accept NACES members, others will accept both NACES and AICE, while others give a general statement of using a "foreign credential evaluation company" as sufficient. I was informed it all depends on the agency. Anyway, I learned that the Validential evaluation is accepted by at least one of the agencies I applied to because they sent me an email stating my name was submitted to the hiring manager for consideration.  

That's a good report regarding Validential!  Good luck!

[jackthehuman]

For those who have completed yours, then leave it at that, for those who are on the fence in regards to getting ENEB Masters/MBA, I would hold off until they get back on track. Work on something else for now, I think more changes are coming, it's like a roller coaster ride with these offerings, they're looking at 'better ways' to help students but taking the wrong 'shortcuts'... (or if you prefer, check out other options available if you know the Spanish language.)

Well they really could do what TECH does with the exams. Break up each Module/Course into classes, and have a test after each class. The platform (Moodle) of course supports this. 
Since the ENEB courses do not have classes, I guess they could do a 50 question exam per Module/Course. That would still be light for a master's degree, but at least would make more sense than one exam for the whole thing.
I think they're just trying to cheap out, since it probably costs them quite a bit to have a human grade these exams, even if they're just skimming them (ironically they want to charge people more to save ENEB money!)
Anyway, I decided I'm going to just do the essays at my leisure. I have until June 2025 so I might as well focus on the degrees I know will be recognized.

[bjcheung77]

For those who have completed yours, then leave it at that, for those who are on the fence in regards to getting ENEB Masters/MBA, I would hold off until they get back on track. Work on something else for now, I think more changes are coming, it's like a roller coaster ride with these offerings, they're looking at 'better ways' to help students but taking the wrong 'shortcuts'... (or if you prefer, check out other options available if you know the Spanish language.)

Well they really could do what TECH does with the exams. Break up each Module/Course into classes, and have a test after each class. The platform (Moodle) of course supports this. 
Since the ENEB courses do not have classes, I guess they could do a 50 question exam per Module/Course. That would still be light for a master's degree, but at least would make more sense than one exam for the whole thing.
I think they're just trying to cheap out, since it probably costs them quite a bit to have a human grade these exams, even if they're just skimming them (ironically they want to charge people more to save ENEB money!)
Anyway, I decided I'm going to just do the essays at my leisure. I have until June 2025 so I might as well focus on the degrees I know will be recognized.

That's pretty good going at your pace and completing the assignments, if you have the time to pace yourself and complete the writings in orderly fashion, you'll be done before the June 2025 deadline you set yourself (or when your courses expire). I wouldn't rush it anyways, hopefully by the time you finish, the dust is settled and ENEB gets rid of most their mistakes and starts afresh with the student in mind and not the business model of cost cutting...

[eLearner]

Well they really could do what TECH does with the exams. Break up each Module/Course into classes, and have a test after each class. The platform (Moodle) of course supports this. 
Since the ENEB courses do not have classes, I guess they could do a 50 question exam per Module/Course. That would still be light for a master's degree, but at least would make more sense than one exam for the whole thing.
I think they're just trying to cheap out, since it probably costs them quite a bit to have a human grade these exams, even if they're just skimming them (ironically they want to charge people more to save ENEB money!)
Anyway, I decided I'm going to just do the essays at my leisure. I have until June 2025 so I might as well focus on the degrees I know will be recognized.

I think you mean essays. If they switched to all exams, it would eliminate all of that workload they have for themselves. I would be in favor of it if it were done with rigor (like 100 questions per course + a capstone essay), not the route they're about to take with the 50 question business.

[sparkling]

Can someone assist me with something? For those of you who requested that ENEB send a transcript to a third party, and they asked you to pay for it, did they send you a link to a website called 'hotmart.com?' Excuse my ignorance, but I've never heard of that website, and I was expecting the website to link to the special request on the actual ENEB website (https://eneb.com/special-request/).

Help, please.

[michaeladsmith2]

Can someone assist me with something? For those of you who requested that ENEB send a transcript to a third party, and they asked you to pay for it, did they send you a link to a website called 'hotmart.com?' Excuse my ignorance, but I've never heard of that website, and I was expecting the website to link to the special request on the actual ENEB website (https://eneb.com/special-request/).

Help, please.

This is something new to me. I've never requested my transcripts and been charged. This must be something new ENEB is doing; charging a fee for transcripts. 

However, yes, I've seen this site. When I asked for their current deals to pay for 2 additional Master's, they sent me to the same site for payment. "Hotmart" must be their new payment portal for paying ENEB fees.

[JPN]

Can someone assist me with something? For those of you who requested that ENEB send a transcript to a third party, and they asked you to pay for it, did they send you a link to a website called 'hotmart.com?' Excuse my ignorance, but I've never heard of that website, and I was expecting the website to link to the special request on the actual ENEB website (https://eneb.com/special-request/).

Help, please.

This is something new to me. I've never requested my transcripts and been charged. This must be something new ENEB is doing; charging a fee for transcripts. 

However, yes, I've seen this site. When I asked for their current deals to pay for 2 additional Master's, they sent me to the same site for payment. "Hotmart" must be their new payment portal for paying ENEB fees.

ENEB charges for many things that they haven't previously - transcript requests, evaluating transfer credit, minor changes/additions to existing academic documentation like Proof of Enrollment, etc.