ENEB Master Thread

[Kal Di]

Based on my research, it seems that Josef Silny and Associates is the most lenient NACES evaluator for degrees from Spanish and Latin American universities.

[KSoul]

Based on my research, it seems that Josef Silny and Associates is the most lenient NACES evaluator for degrees from Spanish and Latin American universities.

It's a nice little money lane for these small companies evaluating foreign degrees. Once a company builds up its university database, it becomes a simple plug-in for results.

[cacoleman1983]

Based on my research, it seems that Josef Silny and Associates is the most lenient NACES evaluator for degrees from Spanish and Latin American universities.

Someone who completed their PhD degree from UCN got their evaluation through Josef Silny and Associates of equivalent to a regionally accredited PhD in Psychology.   The cost of their evaluation was only $150 which I believe is the exact same price as Validential which currently makes them the lowest cost NACES evaluator.  It would be good to see someone evaluate ENEB degrees through them.  They are actually the second oldest NACES evaluator having been certified since 1989.     Many other ones came out along with WES in 1987 and all of them apparently share blacklisted universities that include Azteca, UCN, Swiss Business Schools, etc.

[KSoul]

Based on my research, it seems that Josef Silny and Associates is the most lenient NACES evaluator for degrees from Spanish and Latin American universities.

Someone who completed their PhD degree from UCN got their evaluation through Josef Silny and Associates of equivalent to a regionally accredited PhD in Psychology.   The cost of their evaluation was only $150 which I believe is the exact same price as Validential which currently makes them the lowest cost NACES evaluator.  It would be good to see someone evaluate ENEB degrees through them.  They are actually the second oldest NACES evaluator having been certified since 1989.     Many other ones came out along with WES in 1987 and all of them apparently share blacklisted universities that include Azteca, UCN, Swiss Business Schools, etc.

Look forward to having someone check it out to add to the list of options. As for pricing, Validential is running a $20 off, making the total after the $2.00 processing fee $131.98.

[Kalas]

I decided to enroll in the MBA and Big Data degrees after reading the last 75 pages of this thread. I'm about halfway through the first MBA class. I have a few thoughts/impressions at this point in the process.

When I signed up through an affiliate link I was directed to a blank webpage after making payment. I realize I'm getting ~97% discount compared to what Spaniards pay, but that still did not make me feel good as a paying customer or inspire much confidence in ENEB. I sent an email and everything was set up about 24 hours later, but wouldn't even have had the email address if it wasn't for this thread. First impression: I'm getting what I'm paying for in a bad way. I saw that happened to someone else in this thread about 50 pages back so they don't appear to care enough to have their web guy take 30 minutes to do something about it.

The course materials again gave the impression that I'm getting what I'm paying for at the American price, not the Spaniard price. The first chapter in the first course in particular read like it was run through a machine translator and considered good enough.

They run "masterclasses" on a regular basis, so they appear to be constantly adding content. This is good in principle, but how useful they are remains to be seen. I've been through 3 of the 5 listed in the Strategic Management class. The first one is in Spanish (with subtitles) and might give you some understanding of how things discussed in the course could be applied, but I didn't get that much out it. The second is an 11 minute video in intelligible English on social innovation with about 3 minutes of content. The third is in "English" but the instructor's English is weak enough that I needed the subtitles at several points (which primarily serve to confirm that it is indeed as incoherent as I thought). She is clearly winging it and frequently bumbles around as she tries to form a cogent thought. When I present in Japanese I put in a suitable amount of preparation beforehand to ensure I come across competent.

An optional short course explaining the expectations and methodology for the papers might be beneficial. I learned more about what they wanted from this thread than the actual instructions.

Reading this thread got me to thinking about efficiency in evaluations. Would it make the most sense to get every course you plan on taking done first, then getting an evaluation on the whole transcript/set of degrees? Or is a separate evaluation required for each degree, regardless of what is on the actual transcript?

[IHatePickingUsernames]

I decided to enroll in the MBA and Big Data degrees after reading the last 75 pages of this thread. I'm about halfway through the first MBA class. I have a few thoughts/impressions at this point in the process.

When I signed up through an affiliate link I was directed to a blank webpage after making payment. I realize I'm getting ~97% discount compared to what Spaniards pay, but that still did not make me feel good as a paying customer or inspire much confidence in ENEB. I sent an email and everything was set up about 24 hours later, but wouldn't even have had the email address if it wasn't for this thread. First impression: I'm getting what I'm paying for in a bad way. I saw that happened to someone else in this thread about 50 pages back so they don't appear to care enough to have their web guy take 30 minutes to do something about it.

The course materials again gave the impression that I'm getting what I'm paying for at the American price, not the Spaniard price. The first chapter in the first course in particular read like it was run through a machine translator and considered good enough.

They run "masterclasses" on a regular basis, so they appear to be constantly adding content. This is good in principle, but how useful they are remains to be seen. I've been through 3 of the 5 listed in the Strategic Management class. The first one is in Spanish (with subtitles) and might give you some understanding of how things discussed in the course could be applied, but I didn't get that much out it. The second is an 11 minute video in intelligible English on social innovation with about 3 minutes of content. The third is in "English" but the instructor's English is weak enough that I needed the subtitles at several points (which primarily serve to confirm that it is indeed as incoherent as I thought). She is clearly winging it and frequently bumbles around as she tries to form a cogent thought. When I present in Japanese I put in a suitable amount of preparation beforehand to ensure I come across competent.

An optional short course explaining the expectations and methodology for the papers might be beneficial. I learned more about what they wanted from this thread than the actual instructions.  

Reading this thread got me to thinking about efficiency in evaluations. Would it make the most sense to get every course you plan on taking done first, then getting an evaluation on the whole transcript/set of degrees? Or is a separate evaluation required for each degree, regardless of what is on the actual transcript?

On the ENEB home page, alone, there are 3 ways to get in touch with them. There is a contact form, a contact link, and their address with phone number and email are at the bottom of the page under the footer. Translating technical documents from one language to another can be tricky because some business terms aren't universal. For example, some things we commonly call X here in the US are commonly called M in Spain. I ran into this problem in my finance and accounting courses and I am not ashamed to admit that after Google failed me, I asked ChatGPT if X was known by another term in Spain. It told me what it was called in Spain and I went back to Google to find the information I needed using the Spanish terms. 

(I further used ChatGPT when I was completely lost in the sauce with the finance/accounting courses. I told it to explain X to me like I was in the 8th grade - because I'm smarter than a 5th grader, 'dammit'    - and it did! Once I got my wires uncrossed I was good to go, LOL).

What you will soon find out, if you don't quit, is that our course materials purposely don't have all of the information we need to know to complete the final projects. I know this because PDF's are searchable and some things just weren't in our materials. Just remember that if you ever need help there's this forum, the ENEB Community forums, and a ENEB student group on Facebook. The Facebook group is pretty awesome because everyone is so supportive.

I can't speak to the Masterclasses. I'm disabled and it was enough to get through the required stuff. 

There is no need for a short course to explain the expectations and methodologies for the papers, because each final project includes a RUBRIC that does exactly that. Again, anything you don't understand has probably been answered in the ENEB Community forums or on here, or in the Facebook group. And, you can always send an SOS to the departmental email address on your final project's cover sheet (the one with the red boxes).

Evaluations are pricey, so I suggest waiting until you're finished with both degrees and submitting your full final transcripts and paying one evaluation fee.

[Kalas]

I knew someone that enrolled in Franklin University's MBA program about 13 years ago that dropped out after the first semester. I bought his books out of curiosity. In the Columbus, OH area Franklin's reputation varies from a little below average to absolute garbage, depending on the industry. Those books were vastly superior to the texts supplied by ENEB, as was every economics textbook I used in my undergrad at a B&M university. When taking the spacing and massive margins into account the Strategic Management course has about as much content as I would expect from one or two chapters in an undergrad textbook. Sure, most people in this thread seem to have a higher opinion of the textbooks than I do. More power to them. I'm brushing up on the Castellano I haven't used much since high school and I would say the Spanish for Business textbook would be perfectly fine as a book you'd buy on Amazon for $20 or whatever the going rate is for a language learning book these days. I didn't take any foreign language courses during my undergrad so I can't make that comparison. It's certainly more robust than the Strategic Management textbook.

You seem to disagree with me about the quality of  the course materials, then concede parts are not even written intelligibly enough to be understood by native English speakers and lack information a student of the course is supposed to know upon completion. That is certainly an unconventional way to disagree with my point about the content of the textbooks leaving something to be desired.

Rubric? No rubric is given. If a rubric were included we would know the exact criteria used to evaluate each paper and the weight given to each criterion. We could compare those guidelines to deficiencies in submitted papers and know exactly where they fell short. Examples of that lack of transparency in expectations are scattered throughout the last 100 pages of this thread. From what I have read their expectations are even more opaque in the accounting courses. OTOH, I suppose the old "ChatGPT, write me 18 pages addressing the questions posed by this .docx file that Manuel from Fawlty Towers can understand" would get the job done if I were lazy enough to go that route. I'll admit the absurdity of bringing it down to Manuel's level makes me curious to see what it would spit out. lol

"Both degrees" When you can add 2 degrees for $239 (assuming you can't negotiate a better price to buy more) there is no reason not to take every course they have to maximize credits at your disposal. You never know what you might want to transfer 10 or 20 years from now, or how much prices will jump. 10 years ago I looked at getting the MBA/DBA combo deal from California Intercontinental (no longer available) because it was under $20k. The price has roughly tripled in the last 10 years. We've already seen ENEB's price creep up on Groupon and there's no reason to believe it won't continue in the future. $1000 per degree would still be relatively cheap, but I'd be much less enthusiastic about doing everything they have at that price.

I saw a job at Amazon looking for recent or upcoming graduates and applied with an expected finish date for my ENEB degree in August. If I hear back from them I'll share what they have to say about the ENEB degree, if anything. I'm not really expecting them to call because it's about an hour drive for me and I'm sure they can find a recent grad closer than that.

Has anyone tried to get transfer credit at ENEB for the 100ML Thunderbird courses? https://thunderbird.asu.edu/lifelong-lea...n-learners If not I'll start knocking them out. I can't imagine anything in Thunderbird's accounting course being worse than what I've read in this thread.

[MrPanda]

Has anyone tried to get transfer credit at ENEB for the 100ML Thunderbird courses? https://thunderbird.asu.edu/lifelong-lea...n-learners If not I'll start knocking them out. I can't imagine anything in Thunderbird's accounting course being worse than what I've read in this thread.

It wouldn´t be possible, as the 100ML courses only give you credit as a complete 15cr certificate, and not all courses have already been launched.

[Vle045]

Has anyone tried to get transfer credit at ENEB for the 100ML Thunderbird courses? https://thunderbird.asu.edu/lifelong-lea...n-learners If not I'll start knocking them out. I can't imagine anything in Thunderbird's accounting course being worse than what I've read in this thread.

It wouldn´t be possible, as the 100ML courses only give you credit as a complete 15cr certificate, and not all courses have already been launched.

I think the Thunderbird certificate/courses have much more value.  Kalas, you would definitely get more out of them.  I finished the bootcamp and am gradually working on the other courses now.

[Kalas]

I agree that they're 100% worth doing for free. If I understand Thunderbird's website correctly each course gives a participation trophy (certificate of completion) and I would submit those for potential transfer credit at ENEB. From others transferring in credits it seems ENEB limits transfer credit to 3-5 courses (depending on the degree/certification) so there are enough courses to be in their overall transfer acceptance range. I agree that a final transcript that will be available for purchase for a "nominal fee" would be more likely to be accepted as a whole than each course on its own.

I just stumbled on these a few days ago. Are new courses being added on a regular basis (monthly, quarterly. etc.)?