ENEB Master Thread

[eLearner]

Through testing several programs (asked for keys, got keys, looked inside), I've found that with some of these Spanish programs the classrooms are set up in a way where they translate to near perfect English on Chrome. The only real challenge is with writing papers, but there are translation solutions for that as well. All of the communications I've had with Spanish programs has come through software-based translators and it's gone rather smoothly, so I think the software systems have really improved over the years.

And, if you're really concerned about refinement with a paper, you could always hire a Spanish proofreader online. I know some frown on these ideas, and they're entitled to their view. But my position is, many of these programs (particularly the official ones) may be able to get you to the same place you want to be for a literal small fraction of the cost of an American program, and in the times we live in it just makes more sense to try a low-cost option than it ever has.

I notice more of these programs popping up on the profiles of people in the United States and Canada, some propio, some official, but programs that cost many times less than a comparable American program, and many of these programs are not in English. My guess is, these people have already figured out the tricks to overcome the language barriers and make it work for them. When the Spanish program costs like $20 per credit and the American or Canadian version costs $1,000 per credit (or more), I think it's worth a shot to see what can be done.

[cacoleman1983]

Through testing several programs (asked for keys, got keys, looked inside), I've found that with some of these Spanish programs the classrooms are set up in a way where they translate to near perfect English on Chrome. The only real challenge is with writing papers, but there are translation solutions for that as well. All of the communications I've had with Spanish programs has come through software-based translators and it's gone rather smoothly, so I think the software systems have really improved over the years.

And, if you're really concerned about refinement with a paper, you could always hire a Spanish proofreader online. I know some frown on these ideas, and they're entitled to their view. But my position is, many of these programs (particularly the official ones) may be able to get you to the same place you want to be for a literal small fraction of the cost of an American program, and in the times we live in it just makes more sense to try a low-cost option than it ever has.

I notice more of these programs popping up on the profiles of people in the United States and Canada, some propio, some official, but programs that cost many times less than a comparable American program, and many of these programs are not in English. My guess is, these people have already figured out the tricks to overcome the language barriers and make it work for them. When the Spanish program costs like $20 per credit and the American or Canadian version costs $1,000 per credit (or more), I think it's worth a shot to see what can be done.

I think it would peak many employers interests and may even work in a future employee's favor to be able to say they did a program that was in another language.   Foreign degrees to many people look suspect but can actually work in someone's favor not only in the cost but having the experience of navigating another country's academic system to earn a degree.    Having these global degrees is becoming more popular and will be looked at with less suspicion as time goes on.

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ENEB either has new or hidden master's degree programs. One is a master's in innovation and entrepreneurship. The other is a master's in coaching, emotional intelligence, and NLP.

On OfertaSimple, they are offering a MBA and +1 other master degree combo for $199.

https://www.ofertasimple.com/en/ofertas/...-21may22-e  

The promotion ends in 8 hours.

I bought the offer for the master's in coaching, emotional intelligence, and NLP. I'm not really interested in the MBA, but maybe I will feel different about it later.

I initially found the Master's in Innovation and Entrepreneurship from ENEB here:
https://www.masterstudies.com/Masters-De...eneurship/

They are offering it for 249 pounds.  The program is listed on ENEB.es but not on ENEB.com  They have been promoting it on their Facebook page as well.    They are offering new programs in Spanish but have not translated them to English yet which is why we are not seeing it on the English version site.  However,  if you are comfortable with Google translate or any other translation service from Spanish to English, it wouldn't hurt to take the deal and complete the programs in Spanish.

[ashkir]

Through testing several programs (asked for keys, got keys, looked inside), I've found that with some of these Spanish programs the classrooms are set up in a way where they translate to near perfect English on Chrome. The only real challenge is with writing papers, but there are translation solutions for that as well. All of the communications I've had with Spanish programs has come through software-based translators and it's gone rather smoothly, so I think the software systems have really improved over the years.

And, if you're really concerned about refinement with a paper, you could always hire a Spanish proofreader online. I know some frown on these ideas, and they're entitled to their view. But my position is, many of these programs (particularly the official ones) may be able to get you to the same place you want to be for a literal small fraction of the cost of an American program, and in the times we live in it just makes more sense to try a low-cost option than it ever has.

I notice more of these programs popping up on the profiles of people in the United States and Canada, some propio, some official, but programs that cost many times less than a comparable American program, and many of these programs are not in English. My guess is, these people have already figured out the tricks to overcome the language barriers and make it work for them. When the Spanish program costs like $20 per credit and the American or Canadian version costs $1,000 per credit (or more), I think it's worth a shot to see what can be done.

I think it would peak many employers interests and may even work in a future employee's favor to be able to say they did a program that was in another language.   Foreign degrees to many people look suspect but can actually work in someone's favor not only in the cost but having the experience of navigating another country's academic system to earn a degree.    Having these global degrees is becoming more popular and will be looked at with less suspicion as time goes on.

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"I did my degree in a Spanish program in order to increase my exposure to international cultures and provide me more diversity to our European counterparts and to provide a linguistic connection to the second most spoken language in North America."

You don't need to defend a foreign degree. Use it in your favor. You did your foreign degree to expand your learning, and increase your exposure to different cultures and diversity.

[ashkir]

I think that we are down to the bare essentials of what we have for ENEB’s valuation. No hyperboles, no spin, etc
This is what I think we have for evaluation in North America – which has no consequences to ENEB’s status in Spain – separate issues.
1. A poster alluding that someone may have received graduate-level coursework credits from ECE. Correct me, but the person who received those credits has never posted on degreeforum or even on DI.  Uncertain if this can be verified.
2. Another poster did an evaluation from WES and received a non-accredited master's and non-accredited institution. This evaluation can be verified.
3. Two top-quality posters sent and received emails from IEE that ENEB’s master's may likely be evaluated as a graduate certificate – but nothing official has been done so no reliance can be placed on this. The sources of these two queries can be verified.
Is there anything else that is verifiable?

1) In the megathread, Dee12 finished a Masters in Project Management and it was evaluated at ECE as an undergraduate Bachelors (RA equivalent)
2) I think it was you or someone else who did the WES evaluation and got that as an unrecognized or non-accredited foreign Masters degree
3) Yes, I've been emailing the NACES organizations to find out for people who are curious, not just myself.

Working on my last class and I'll send it to IEE and report back

Thank you so much for doing this!  BTW, Which one did you enroll in? MBA and Masters Big Data & BI?

Yes! I did the MBA and a MAster's in Big Data. I probably won't finish the Big Data right now because I don't have time to learn PowerBi. I asked them if it's okay I complete and evaluate my MBA now and do the other master's later and ENEB said yes.

[Kal Di]

ENEB either has new or hidden master's degree programs. One is a master's in innovation and entrepreneurship. The other is a master's in coaching, emotional intelligence, and NLP.

On OfertaSimple, they are offering a MBA and +1 other master degree combo for $199.

https://www.ofertasimple.com/en/ofertas/...-21may22-e

The promotion ends in 8 hours.

I bought the offer for the master's in coaching, emotional intelligence, and NLP. I'm not really interested in the MBA, but maybe I will feel different about it later.

Do you speak Portuguese or Spanish? I just logged into their English Campus site and those programs are not in the list... So I think it's only available for those on the Portuguese and/or Spanish system. Oh well, nothing lost on this side, it would be interesting though if they "add" it to the English site. When you start the program, can you let us know if it's in English or not. Thanks!

I talked to them today and they said the master's in coaching, emotional intelligence, and NLP is a degree program only offered in Spanish. So, I will be doing it in that language, while doing the MBA in English.

If you buy the double degree promotion on a Spanish-speaking offer website (e.g. OfertaSimple), ENEB will at least let you to take the MBA in English upon your request (and may allow you take the other master in English if they already offer it in English). Otherwise, you will have to take the other degree program(s) in Spanish. They offer a few master degree programs only available in Spanish, including (but not limited to):

Innovation and Entrepreneurship
Coaching, Emotional Intelligence, and NLP
Executive MBA

For more information about their Spanish-only degree programs, I recommend viewing the following document:
https://www.eneb.es/Documents/GUIAS/Guia...tudios.pdf

[sanantone]

I'm curious about these claims that private employers don't care about accreditation. I know many employers fail to verify accreditation or even that the person has the degree they claim to have, but private employers have also fired people after finding out that their degrees were earned from unaccredited schools. For some in HR, accreditation is the only way they know how to verify that a school isn't a diploma mill. SHRM also warns HR specialists about degrees from nonaccredited schools.

[cacoleman1983]

I'm curious about these claims that private employers don't care about accreditation. I know many employers fail to verify accreditation or even that the person has the degree they claim to have, but private employers have also fired people after finding out that their degrees were earned from unaccredited schools. For some in HR, accreditation is the only way they know how to verify that a school isn't a diploma mill. SHRM also warns HR specialists about degrees from nonaccredited schools.

They care but they are not as stringent about it.  They are more likely to use other criteria to evaluate a potential employee more so than the degree alone.   When I mentioned they don't care, I was talking more about the reputation of the school being more important than the actual accreditation factor.   They are willing to look more at MOOCs and other training as a substitute for educational requirements.   The problem may not be so much the accreditation but rather or not an employee lies about it on their resume.  If they are truthful upfront, it may not be as big of a deal where as government and academic jobs are not as flexible. 

Many do fail to run background checks in HR but when they do it would likely be to see if everything on a resume is on the up and up as far as being the truth. I can't speak for all private companies but from my observation,  they are likely a lot more flexible with how a school is accredited or recognized than academic and public sector careers.

[sanantone]

I'm curious about these claims that private employers don't care about accreditation. I know many employers fail to verify accreditation or even that the person has the degree they claim to have, but private employers have also fired people after finding out that their degrees were earned from unaccredited schools. For some in HR, accreditation is the only way they know how to verify that a school isn't a diploma mill. SHRM also warns HR specialists about degrees from nonaccredited schools.

They care but they are not as stringent about it.  They will use other criteria to evaluate a potential employee more so than the degree alone.   When I mentioned they don't care, I was talking more about the reputation of the school being more important than the actual accreditation factor.   They are willing to look more at MOOCs and other training as a substitute for educational requirements.   The problem may not be so much the accreditation but rather or not an employee lies about it on their resume.  If they are truthful upfront, it may not be as big of a deal where as government and academic jobs are not as flexible. 

Many do fail to run background checks in HR but when they do it would likely be to see if everything on a resume is on the up and up as far as being the truth. I can't speak for all private companies but from my observation,  they are likely a lot more flexible with how a school is accredited or recognized than academic and public sector careers.

ENEB is unknown by the general public. Private employers might be familiar with Coursera and edX and the major universities and Fortune 500 companies that offer courses on their platform, but they're not going to be familiar with a Spanish school that doesn't have degree-granting authority.

[eLearner]

ENEB is unknown by the general public. Private employers might be familiar with Coursera and edX and the major universities and Fortune 500 companies that offer courses on their platform, but they're not going to be familiar with a Spanish school that doesn't have degree-granting authority.

They have degree-granting authority. They issue their own degrees both inside and outside of Spain.

[eLearner]

1) In the megathread, Dee12 finished a Masters in Project Management and it was evaluated at ECE as an undergraduate Bachelors (RA equivalent)
2) I think it was you or someone else who did the WES evaluation and got that as an unrecognized or non-accredited foreign Masters degree
3) Yes, I've been emailing the NACES organizations to find out for people who are curious, not just myself.

2) They usually term it as "Equivalent to U.S. non-accredited".

3) I've done this myself and it's like pulling teeth. They all have varying levels of unhelpfulness, but WES is the worst: they're unhelpful and unfriendly. They act like their information is sacred and you're committing a sin for asking about it.