ENEB Master Thread

[innen_oda]

. innen_oda, you fought a good fight, but you lost. It's time to let go and let God 

Truer words were never spoken. I have seen the light, and I now understand that the ENEB - Universidad Isabel I Masters degree is a truly wonderful and unique hidden opportunity. This ENEB - Universidad Isabel I Masters degree is definitely not a scam, and ENEB - Universidad Isabel I is not a degree mill.
On the contrary, ENEB - Universidad Isabel I is a rare opportunity for the truly intelligent to get a completely valid Master's degree (or two, or five!) in less time and at less expense than one of those expensive, overpriced US Masters degree.

But you're here for doom so I get the angle.

Not anymore friend! The ENEB - Universidad Isabel I Masters degree is a great idea, as I have learnt, and everyone who paid ENEB money is a very very smart shopper. The ENEB - Universidad Isabel I Masters degree is not a piece of paper from a degree mill, and employers will think most highly of each individual who places this ENEB - Universidad Isabel I Masters degree upon their otherwise drab CV. I know nothing about hiring, but I'll bet that this ENEB - Universidad Isabel I Masters degree will be a game changer for many!

The doomers and naysayers are undeniably useless, and not to be paid any mind. When considering a purchasing decision, the best approach is to listen primarily to those favouring the purchase - ESPECIALLY when they self-title themselves a skeptic. This is almost always the mark of a truly unbiased individual.

Instead of doom, I hope word can be spread far and wide, so that more clever shoppers can discover this authentic ENEB - Universidad Isabel I Masters degree. Can you imagine when many thousands of individuals have this ENEB - Universidad Isabel I Masters degree atop their CV, how proud each will be to have such an accomplishment associated with them?! I for one will promote this ENEB - Universidad Isabel I Masters degree - although only to those whom I believe MOST deserve to have such a qualification.

(eLearner, I am devastated to find you have not yet undertaken this wonderful ENEB - Universidad Isabel I Masters degree opportunity, for I believe you are the most deserving of all.)

I'm aware that the final step is usually a background check, but once upon a time in the early 2000's I did that job, and when I reached the stage of narrowing down the few candidates I wanted to have interviewed I did my own preliminary checks doing what most do today: an internet search. It took very little time. On a number of occasions I caught people with degrees from Axact and Axact-like outfits, people with very off-color online posts on Facebook, Myspace, and so on, and when I did those people got cut. That saved me a ton of time not having to have them interviewed and some of the expense of us doing the full background check. I'm sure that's not how most companies do it, but that's how I did it.

I can see from this that you were definitely a hiring manager for a time, and clearly quite a competent one too.
You know, the best thing about being in hiring (or so I hear - I know nothing about it personally) is after a while, one becomes quite attuned to the characteristics of when someone is fudging the truth, and so the more they try to appear as though they know what they're talking about, the worse it gets.

Anyway, ignore all that - tell me more about your experiences in hiring! You know so much!!

[Thorne]

Right, we forgot that the only person here with valid anecdotes or experience is you.

[Thorne]

Unrelated to the above discussion but I just had to know per your signature:

Master of Business Administration, Universidad Isabel I, In Progress
Master in Management & Team Management, Universidad Isabel I, In Progress
Master in International Trade, Universidad Isabel I, In Progress
Master in Supply Chain Management, Universidad Isabel I, In Progress

How'd you wind up in four programs??

Same way I ended up starting a business in my elementary and middle schools that earned enough to fund my college journey, completing two Associate's programs and two certificate programs, finishing the CCNA + CCNA Security + CCNP in 6 months, or finishing 2 years of school in 6 months to finish my BSc while taking care of my dementia-riddled grandmother part-time. I have a lot of energy and really enjoy burning it on fun things, especially studying anything novel or manipulating systems I think are horribly broken.

MBA and MA Management were just utilitarian -- if one works, the other is likely irrelevant, but both may have legs in the right situation (I contemplated doing the Master of Project Management, still am considering it in lieu of the Management degree). MA International Trade was mainly because I like economics and wanted to write about vaguely economic things.

As stupid as it sounds, I did the Supply Chain degree for two reasons unrelated to my own employment. First, because my fiance's mother is an operations manager who spends a lot of time in the warehouse and didn't have the self confidence to leap in without a study partner. Second, because an old buddy bet me that I couldn't make it through the warehouse and supply chain courses at the same pace I did the MBA courses and I'm dumb enough to enjoy stupid challenges.

[collegecareerstudent]

That's all super fascinating and thank you for sharing. I enjoyed reading about your endeavors. You have fun with education and I love that. I was just wondering if you bought two Groupons?? I didn't see a four program Groupon.

[Thorne]

That's all super fascinating and thank you for sharing. I enjoyed reading about your endeavors. You have fun with education and I love that.  I was just wondering if you bought two Groupons?? I didn't see a four program Groupon.

The dual Groupon and then two more purchased directly from the school using a referral link during a discount they ran

[Kab]

A lot of critic to this degree could be applied to others. We should try to be more constructive in the critic, specially since some of critic points could be applied to other universities but is not done this way. I talk about the critic to the evaluation for essay. This type of evaluation is done in many centers, brick and mortar and online.

[PrettyFlyforaChiGuy]

I would love to see a study that compares plagiarism rates across different schools, and see if it matches up with how we "feel".

I can help give a little bit of insight in the limited context of elite high schools in Beijing. I've taught an independent research program to Chinese teens from the top high school(s) in the country for the past four years, and I include a unit on plagiarism, citations, and proper sourcing. By giving them several practice exercises, presenting them with many hypothetical situations (things like "Reusing a paper I've written in Chinese for my English class," or "Including a citation for a source not in my References section"), and ultimately asking them to write out an entire paper, I've found that many of them either had no real idea what plagiarism really is, or just didn't seem to be taught about it in their regular classes.

I was curious enough to look up a research paper on this topic, and came across this M.Ed thesis that includes some of my students' schools. I was surprised by how little instruction they receive in their normal classes. It seems that there's a cultural disconnect between what the teaching staff might consider plagiarism and how students might feel about it. Interestingly, they felt that reaching out to parents about the issue is not as impactful the kids' GPA taking a hit. Kind of cool that full-scale copying was reported to be rare, and it's mostly inadvertent when it happens, but I would imagine the situation might be different in other school environments. 

Now, I talk to them about the consequences of plagiarism and how to paraphrase/interweave sources into their own thoughts. Turnitin samples and flashing red zero gifs put the fear of the Lord in them.

[cacoleman1983]

I've distilled the contents of this thread down to a single wiki page so that people don't have to wade through 75 pages of this stuff: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/ENEB

Please let me know if there is anything that needs to be corrected, expanded upon, or that I missed.

I received confirmation that IEE will likely evaluate the Master Propio as a Graduate Certificate with how many hours complete through an email I sent to them a few weeks back.  I posted the response on degreeinfo.com.  

"We cannot guarantee the outcome of an evaluation without completing the entire educational background. Our equivalency will depend on which type of degree that you received at ENEB. Máster Universitario degrees are títulos officials (official titles) and are a part of the official Spanish education system as stated in Spanish law, so we will typically equate these to a US master's degree. Máster propio degrees are títulos propios (institution-specific or proprietary titles). Institutions are allowed to create their own propios programs, but these degrees fall outside of the official Spanish education as stated in Spanish law, and institutions are legally forbidden from using the approved diploma format for propio degrees. Because Spanish law specifically states that propio degrees are not official degrees, IEE considers such degrees as equivalent to graduate credit in the US, and we will typically equate it to a Graduate Certificate."

[eLearner]

I can see from this that you were definitely a hiring manager for a time, and clearly quite a competent one too.
You know, the best thing about being in hiring (or so I hear - I know nothing about it personally) is after a while, one becomes quite attuned to the characteristics of when someone is fudging the truth, and so the more they try to appear as though they know what they're talking about, the worse it gets.

Anyway, ignore all that - tell me more about your experiences in hiring! You know so much!!

Then you really should re-read your own posts, lol.

[Vle045]

So much for a simple question. This thread sure went off the rails a little bit. LOL.