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(03-15-2021, 11:23 PM)eLearner Wrote: I don't know, but I wouldn't expect political leaders to be showing up to business classes. That would make more sense for political science. I'm just saying that if a school charging less than $300 can get successful business professionals in to give live classes on a regular basis, surely schools in the U.S. charging $60,000 and more should be able to do it, too.
True, I agree with you really. But I also recall other types of speakers visiting during classes, like professional archaeologists in Anthro courses, plus some authors and the like scattered around. I just remember that most speakers who arrived on campus were hosting sessions in places like the auditorium, if they weren't just teaching entire courses of their own throughout the whole semester.
Maybe unis feel that including too many visiting speakers in-class would detract from scaffolding their program upward for students, or believe that any speaking fees are best applied in larger venues to get their money's worth? Not sure, but it's a good point that there could be more representation of actual professional practitioners in classes.
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(03-17-2021, 05:38 AM)PrettyFlyforaChiGuy Wrote: (03-15-2021, 11:23 PM)eLearner Wrote: I don't know, but I wouldn't expect political leaders to be showing up to business classes. That would make more sense for political science. I'm just saying that if a school charging less than $300 can get successful business professionals in to give live classes on a regular basis, surely schools in the U.S. charging $60,000 and more should be able to do it, too.
True, I agree with you really. But I also recall other types of speakers visiting during classes, like professional archaeologists in Anthro courses, plus some authors and the like scattered around. I just remember that most speakers who arrived on campus were hosting sessions in places like the auditorium, if they weren't just teaching entire courses of their own throughout the whole semester.
Maybe unis feel that including too many visiting speakers in-class would detract from scaffolding their program upward for students, or believe that any speaking fees are best applied in larger venues to get their money's worth? Not sure, but it's a good point that there could be more representation of actual professional practitioners in classes.
I think that this kind of thing is a good part of the value of a well-known/well-respected college or university. I know that when I was at Michigan, I was able to ask John McCain a question when he came to visit. I would see famous people walking around the campus and there would be constant small meetings with leaders in a variety of fields. I think that sticking a pretty good student into that kind of environment for a few years is an extremely valuable thing.
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(03-15-2021, 04:58 PM)Thorne Wrote: (03-15-2021, 02:53 PM)eLearner Wrote: ENEB does appear to be working a lot to set up partnerships with companies and bring in successful speakers with their live classes and seminars. That's actually impressive, and I wonder why more American schools aren't doing that given how high our schools charge for tuition. Heck, our schools should be able to get top business moguls in every week and make it part of the assignment structure with how much money these colleges are charging us here.
ENEB just has to get a stronger grasp on how the American system works. I get that it's hard to have a grasp on every system in the world, but still, it's just that the MCA deal doesn't do anything in the United States. Our system is awfully strict compared to many others, no doubt, but I agree with the way our system moves with regard to that one. A diploma without a matching transcript is just an expensive trophy.
I'm tempted to see if I can bend the system a bit. Pay the money for the MCA validation, then entreat MCA independently with my diploma and say, "Hey, can I get a transcript, your website says so on this page?"
I haven't been on this forum in a while but this MCA validation is not worth it. ENEB Master Propio has already received a non-accredited ( state-approved) Masters degree equivalent from WES which is good considering these Propio degrees are not official and the certification from Isabel I was likely enough to give it atleast a degree recognition instead of no recognition.
MCA has no recognition above "state-approved" status so you are just paying double the money for a validation paper that will likely not sway a foreign evaluator or school to accept it as an accredited credential. MCA is no good for ENEB and Universidad Isabel I certification is likely enough. Having a university certification from an accredited university has been enough for ENEB to get the positive but varied foreign evaluations. Now if MCA gets some type of recognized accreditation that is national or regional here in the US, this would be worth it.
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I know they usually have a Groupon deal.... but does anyone know what they charge in USD if you register right on their ste?
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(04-14-2021, 10:39 PM)Vle045 Wrote: I know they usually have a Groupon deal.... but does anyone know what they charge in USD if you register right on their ste?
If you go through their site, JUST the MBA is supposed to be $7600. https://eneb.com/master-and-postgraduate...istration/
MBA + another Master is $8400: https://eneb.com/master-and-postgraduate...marketing/
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(04-14-2021, 09:00 PM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: (03-15-2021, 04:58 PM)Thorne Wrote: (03-15-2021, 02:53 PM)eLearner Wrote: ENEB does appear to be working a lot to set up partnerships with companies and bring in successful speakers with their live classes and seminars. That's actually impressive, and I wonder why more American schools aren't doing that given how high our schools charge for tuition. Heck, our schools should be able to get top business moguls in every week and make it part of the assignment structure with how much money these colleges are charging us here.
ENEB just has to get a stronger grasp on how the American system works. I get that it's hard to have a grasp on every system in the world, but still, it's just that the MCA deal doesn't do anything in the United States. Our system is awfully strict compared to many others, no doubt, but I agree with the way our system moves with regard to that one. A diploma without a matching transcript is just an expensive trophy.
I'm tempted to see if I can bend the system a bit. Pay the money for the MCA validation, then entreat MCA independently with my diploma and say, "Hey, can I get a transcript, your website says so on this page?"
I haven't been on this forum in a while but this MCA validation is not worth it. ENEB Master Propio has already received a non-accredited ( state-approved) Masters degree equivalent from WES which is good considering these Propio degrees are not official and the certification from Isabel I was likely enough to give it atleast a degree recognition instead of no recognition.
MCA has no recognition above "state-approved" status so you are just paying double the money for a validation paper that will likely not sway a foreign evaluator or school to accept it as an accredited credential. MCA is no good for ENEB and Universidad Isabel I certification is likely enough. Having a university certification from an accredited university has been enough for ENEB to get the positive but varied foreign evaluations. Now if MCA gets some type of recognized accreditation that is national or regional here in the US, this would be worth it.
Well, this would be a hail mary pass banking on MCA getting some sort of legitimate accreditation, but I don't foresee that happening anyway.
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thanks. Do those links show you USD? They look like 8 dollars or something to me, so that can’t be right.
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(04-14-2021, 10:48 PM)Vle045 Wrote: thanks. Do those links show you USD? They look like 8 dollars or something to me, so that can’t be right.
They are in USD. In many parts of the world, they use the period where we use the comma in dividing numerals. What I, as an American, would write as 10,000 many Europeans and folks in other parts of the world would write 10.000. That is the case on the ENEB website.
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Yes, in other words, on the ENEB website, you're looking at "Thousand" dollars and not a few dollars as they are using a period versus using a comma. With the groupon deal, the cheapest way to get the best bang for the buck is when they offer the MBA & Masters at $250 USD. The cheapest for just one Masters degree is $217USD.
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thanks to smartdegree on degreeinfo
IEE might evaluate the degree as graduate certificate/ diploma.
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