ENEB Master Thread

[SteveFoerster]

I'm not attacking you, so there's no need to take this difference of opinion personally. Obviously, you believe that degrees from ENEB that are validated by UI1 aren't worth even their negligible cost, and that's entirely your prerogative, as it is mine to reach a rather different conclusion.

[ss20ts]

I've seen a few threads about these degrees. I wonder if anyone in the US has completed one and if it actually helped them in their career here. I also wonder what their career is and why these would help. Sounds amazing to get an MBA quickly and for little money, but I wonder if they are taken seriously here.

[eLearner]

Sounds amazing to get an MBA quickly and for little money, but I wonder if they are taken seriously here.

Sounds like Western Governors University which has a pretty respectable reputation.

[ss20ts]

Sounds amazing to get an MBA quickly and for little money, but I wonder if they are taken seriously here.

Sounds like Western Governors University which has a pretty respectable reputation.

WGU is waaaaaay more than $300 for a MBA though. It's also in the US and accredited.

[eLearner]

If your programme provides other benefits (alumni connections, education, an actual LEGITIMATE degree), then perhaps so, yes. Depends what you want out of your x100 programme.

But your (disingenuous) question is not nearly the gotcha you're hoping it is, because spending $600 for something with little/no value is not somehow given greater value simply because other people are spending $60 000 for something with some/little/no value.

Reminds me of late-night infomercials, and the clever psychology used to get you to buy their crap: some chintzy piece of jewelry or whatever is only $50, 'a $500 value - save $450!'
It plays on the hope that people will think 'oh great, I'll save $450 AND get a piece of jewelry - think of all the things I can buy with that $450!' instead of realising they haven't 'saved' anything; they've just spent $50 on something they don't need and 5 minutes ago didn't even know they wanted.
Even if some neighbourhood fella down the street bought the same jewelry for $500, if it turns out the jewelry is worthless, and/or you don't need it anyway, you're not ahead of your neighbour - now both of you have wasted money.

But unlike the jewelry, which is a 20 minute phone call to get, this 'degree' requires hundreds of hours of time.

I just don't see the point in spending even $600 (which for my country, is more than the average monthly wage), for something that appears worthless. It could be $1, and it'd still be a waste of money.

Spending 600USD and hundreds of hours of irreplaceable time of your life for a piece of paper, a piece of paper so worthless that even one of the two schools involved in this charade won't recognise it . . . how is any of this the 'better' option?

LOL. You really went wild there...

Even though I myself expressed some discontent with Isabel not taking credits from it, I do understand it a bit. Isabel only offers official degrees and they cost a lot more than the ENEB program is currently going for. We already know that the transition of propio to official is not a common practice in Spain, so it makes sense culturally there even if it doesn't make sense culturally for us where such a system doesn't exist.

[innen_oda]

LOL. You really went wild there...

Ha. To think of all the times I've watched late-night infomercials and wondered who actually falls for that crap - only to find them all huddled together in a degree forum.

Just seems strange that we whinge about TESU increasing their fees by x-amount of dollars for an actual accredited degree, but some rando, heretofore completely unknown, outfit offers degrees on Groupon (groupon!) which do not appear to be recognised anywhere by anyone, and no one bats an eyelid at spending $300+$300+$200 (or however much WES evaluation costs) for a 10 cent bit of paper. Eight hundred bucks. Do you know how many Showtime Rotisseries you could buy for that?

[rachel83az]

Just seems strange that we whinge about TESU increasing their fees by x-amount of dollars for an actual accredited degree, but some rando, heretofore completely unknown, outfit offers degrees on Groupon (groupon!) which do not appear to be recognised anywhere by anyone, and no one bats an eyelid at spending $300+$300+$200 (or however much WES evaluation costs) for a 10 cent bit of paper.

I don't know about the US but it does seem to be a valid degree in Europe. As long as one doesn't want to get a PhD (which I do not), it appears to be perfectly valid for getting a job. I realize that a lot of forum members are American citizens who are still in the US but there are plenty of international forum members as well for whom this degree might work, even if it turns out that it's not recognized by WES for whatever reason.

[posabsolute]

There are many here that never believed this would work so... with this thread being at 16 pages, I’m more concerned that it will be hard to get the bottom line on this for new members.


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[Merlin]

There are many here that never believed this would work so... with this thread being at 16 pages, I’m more concerned that it will be hard to get the bottom line on this for new members.

I wouldn't touch this degree with a 10-meter cattle prod. But, I would only consider a foreign degree I was 100% confident that it will be accepted as a valid credential in the US with no concern about the transferability of credits.

There are way too many red flags for this degree. Sure, it is cheap, but it is also only usable in limited circumstances.

[SteveFoerster]

which do not appear to be recognised anywhere by anyone

They are, by Universidad Isabel I, a recognized university in Spain. Look, if the program doesn't suit you, that's fine. But stop misleading people about it.

As for the "Groupon!" comment, it's interesting how when Sophia.org gets attention by giving away thousands and thousands of courses for free no one bats an eye, but when ENEB enters a new market with aggressive pricing through a marketing channel its competitors aren't using, somehow that's supposed to be a bad thing.