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(07-08-2020, 06:54 PM)Silvious Wrote: You could get it "Apostilla"-ed (I see it as notarized) to make it more official according to "la Convención de La Haya de 1961" https://eneb.es/apostilla-de-la-haya for $100
In the same site it said all ENEB course are proprio.
Also, an interesting touch is https://eneb.es/convalidaciones/, it let the people to transfer the degree to MCA Business and Postgraduate School, a company in Florida without any price tag, but I found no accreditation for this MCA school at all. Could anyone check it out?
The apostille page in English: https://eneb.com/hague-apostille/
I don't see anything on the English site about MCA Business and Postgraduate School. Possibly because Americans would be able to recognize that it's not accredited at all. It's allowed to operate in FL but that doesn't mean anything.
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(07-08-2020, 06:54 PM)Silvious Wrote: You could get it "Apostilla"-ed (I see it as notarized) to make it more official according to "la Convención de La Haya de 1961" https://eneb.es/apostilla-de-la-haya for $100
In the same site it said all ENEB course are proprio.
The apostille page in English: https://eneb.com/hague-apostille/
Either a degree is valid by the systems in place or it isn't. Apostilles are meaningless for these purposes.
(07-08-2020, 12:34 PM)arad Wrote: I emailed WES whether they would accept "titulo propio" in general, but no response yet.
I also emailed Isabel whether I could transfer any credits from ENEB. This is their response:
"La formación realizada a través de ENEB es formación no oficial de carácter de título propio, si haces un estudio de reconocimiento de créditos no serviría para reconocer asignaturas ya que para poder ser valido aunque no sea oficial tendría que haber sido cursado en una universidad no solo que lo certifique una universidad."
Google translate:
The training carried out through ENEB is unofficial training of a personal nature, if you do a credit recognition study it would not serve to recognize subjects since to be valid even if it is not official it would have to have been completed at a university not only certified by a university.
If ENEB's credits can't be transferred to Isabel, then I'd doubt any other university in Europe would accept them.
I think ENEB is similar to TRIAGON academy, who has a collaboration with London Met. University.
Ouch. Now that's a big blow. I have to be honest, that doesn't look good folks :-(
(07-08-2020, 08:36 AM)Popestt Wrote: If I recall correctly, they include a transcript on the back of the Isabel diploma as well. I assume WES would require Isabel to send the transcript directly to them though. I wonder if isabel is able to provide the transcript, or if it has to come from ENEB.
Isabel provides a verification system, but that's not the same thing. I would inquire with Isabel if they could provide a transcript, but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't. I'm not super confident in WES turning out a favorable evaluation for this arrangement because they are very particular and just-so, and I doubt the ENEB transcript will be enough, but I'm hoping to be proven wrong. Still, I think better luck will be had with a different NACES evaluator.
(07-08-2020, 07:37 PM)Cofffeee Wrote: Can you please tell how many pages do they expect from you for final cases study( if they specify it at all)? Which program did you study? Thank you
I've read a course guide. There is no specific page requirement other than this: each paper cannot exceed 18 pages, excluding the cover page, bibliography (that should read reference list as there is no such thing as a bibliography in APA format as of APA 6th Edition but I haven't seen the 7th edition yet) and the Appendix which I am told is not mandatory.
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(07-08-2020, 12:41 PM)Cofffeee Wrote: Interesting I hope someone get WES evaluation soon , so all of us have full picture on the topic. If its ENEB transcripts- it could be an issue
Is there a reason people are referring to WES specifically when there are 19 evaluators who are members of NACES?
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(07-08-2020, 11:26 PM)SteveFoerster Wrote: (07-08-2020, 12:41 PM)Cofffeee Wrote: Interesting I hope someone get WES evaluation soon , so all of us have full picture on the topic. If its ENEB transcripts- it could be an issue
Is there a reason people are referring to WES specifically when there are 19 evaluators who are members of NACES? There is no particular reason to be honest. But if WES will not give favorable evaluation for ENEB transcript. Of course its not guaranteed , but
probably others will struggle to do so too. We will know only if someone will get it done.
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(07-08-2020, 07:37 PM)Cofffeee Wrote: (07-08-2020, 05:03 PM)spoilt999 Wrote: I am almost done with one of the Masters program and will get it evaluated through WES as soon as I can.
Anyone else done any evaluation or transferred any courses?
Can you please tell how many pages do they expect from you for final cases study( if they specify it at all)? Which program did you study? Thank you
About 8 pages on average has been good enough for me
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(07-08-2020, 10:17 PM)eLearner Wrote: (07-08-2020, 06:54 PM)Silvious Wrote: You could get it "Apostilla"-ed (I see it as notarized) to make it more official according to "la Convención de La Haya de 1961" https://eneb.es/apostilla-de-la-haya for $100
In the same site it said all ENEB course are proprio.
The apostille page in English: https://eneb.com/hague-apostille/
Either a degree is valid by the systems in place or it isn't. Apostilles are meaningless for these purposes.
In most foreign countries that I've lived in, as part of the work visa process, I was required to notarize academic documents with either an apostille for Hague signatory countries or state-level authentication by the Secretary of State. Are notarization/an apostille not required for processes like WES?
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(07-09-2020, 12:09 AM)PrettyFlyforaChiGuy Wrote: In most foreign countries that I've lived in, as part of the work visa process, I was required to notarize academic documents with either an apostille for Hague signatory countries or state-level authentication by the Secretary of State. Are notarization/an apostille not required for processes like WES?
My post was speaking to the notion of an apostille somehow making the degree "more official" for the purpose of general acceptance/viability (which it won't), not in relation to how WES or any other evaluators view it.
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(07-09-2020, 12:09 AM)PrettyFlyforaChiGuy Wrote: (07-08-2020, 10:17 PM)eLearner Wrote: (07-08-2020, 06:54 PM)Silvious Wrote: You could get it "Apostilla"-ed (I see it as notarized) to make it more official according to "la Convención de La Haya de 1961" https://eneb.es/apostilla-de-la-haya for $100
In the same site it said all ENEB course are proprio.
The apostille page in English: https://eneb.com/hague-apostille/
Either a degree is valid by the systems in place or it isn't. Apostilles are meaningless for these purposes.
In most foreign countries that I've lived in, as part of the work visa process, I was required to notarize academic documents with either an apostille for Hague signatory countries or state-level authentication by the Secretary of State. Are notarization/an apostille not required for processes like WES? I dont think so. Since WES requires the institution which issued your degree to send papers directly to WES office. It is assumed that the papers are origanal and dont require additional verifications of authenticity.
(07-09-2020, 12:17 AM)Cofffeee Wrote: (07-09-2020, 12:09 AM)PrettyFlyforaChiGuy Wrote: (07-08-2020, 10:17 PM)eLearner Wrote: (07-08-2020, 06:54 PM)Silvious Wrote: You could get it "Apostilla"-ed (I see it as notarized) to make it more official according to "la Convención de La Haya de 1961" https://eneb.es/apostilla-de-la-haya for $100
In the same site it said all ENEB course are proprio.
The apostille page in English: https://eneb.com/hague-apostille/
Either a degree is valid by the systems in place or it isn't. Apostilles are meaningless for these purposes.
In most foreign countries that I've lived in, as part of the work visa process, I was required to notarize academic documents with either an apostille for Hague signatory countries or state-level authentication by the Secretary of State. Are notarization/an apostille not required for processes like WES? I dont think so. Since WES requires the institution which issued your degree to send papers directly to WES office. It is assumed that the papers are origanal and dont require additional verifications of authenticity.
Also i believe in some cases when issuer of your degree cant send this paper to WES. Then i believe you have to go through authentication process and use state- level authentication and so on. But its exception not a rule. WES put emphasis on papers being send directly by ussuing institution.
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The site just went down and giving a404/apache setup msg. They better be doing an upgrade or something
(07-09-2020, 12:33 AM)spoilt999 Wrote: The site just went down and giving a404/apache setup msg. They better be doing an upgrade or something
Looks like it is going through an upgrade now 
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(07-08-2020, 07:37 PM)rachel83az Wrote: (07-08-2020, 06:54 PM)Silvious Wrote: You could get it "Apostilla"-ed (I see it as notarized) to make it more official according to "la Convención de La Haya de 1961" https://eneb.es/apostilla-de-la-haya for $100
In the same site it said all ENEB course are proprio.
Also, an interesting touch is https://eneb.es/convalidaciones/, it let the people to transfer the degree to MCA Business and Postgraduate School, a company in Florida without any price tag, but I found no accreditation for this MCA school at all. Could anyone check it out?
The apostille page in English: https://eneb.com/hague-apostille/
I don't see anything on the English site about MCA Business and Postgraduate School. Possibly because Americans would be able to recognize that it's not accredited at all. It's allowed to operate in FL but that doesn't mean anything.
The English link leaves out the URL for the PDF example, located https://www.eneb.es/Documents/ENEB_Apost...a_Haya.pdf
Seems like a Apostilla from ENEB only. Camping around some other ENEB group, I see that one could get third party to do the apostillado, hopefully for the Isabel I one.
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