ENEB Master Thread

[eLearner]

5). If it evaluates out to a giant goose egg, I will have something worth posting here about. Win! 

Either way, you'd still have another verifiable accredited degree, and you will have learned some new things too. Considering that and the price, you can't lose.

[ROMMEL]

I would like to know, how is the exam per module and case study? Do you need a lot of time completing the case study?? any respone will be appreciated

[bjcheung77]

Update: I am about done with the ENEB Post Grad Diplomas and were looking at some other European credentials...
FYI, there are "levels" in the European Higher Education area, these might add to the info I had in an earlier post: 
(Review the Reed Link): https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...F-RQF-SCQF
Gov.UK Qualification Levels Link: https://www.gov.uk/what-different-qualif...ion-levels

ABC Awards Link sorts it out the same way as Reed does: https://www.abcawards.co.uk/for-learners/
Univ of Portsmouth tries to explain it: https://www.port.ac.uk/student-life/help...-explained
Qualifi University Progressions (Paints the Big Picture): https://qualifi.net/university-progression/
**Read the info in the Asterisk at the bottom of the picture.

Qualifi FAQ: Read the Q in regards to option for a Masters Degree: https://qualifi.net/progression-faqs/ 
Review the Example & Vocational pathways: Yes, trades/vocational peeps, you can get a Masters/Doctorate too!
TLDR: Essentially, each level has their own "award sub levels" depending on credits & dissertation and/or thesis one has finished
When I am done with ENEB Level 7 diplomas, I will go for Level 8 diploma & get a dissertation/thesis Masters "top-up" completed

Cost: Now this is the kicker, amazingly cheap if you can find the provider & university combo that is less "sketchy".  
Here's my study example:  1) Finish off some courses from Sophia.org that I have never taken before and don't duplicate.
2) ENEB Level 7 MBA & Masters+2nd Masters, $299+$249 = I see this as an MBA + 2 Post Graduate Diplomas for cheap.
3) Several sites including "Reed" offer Level 8 business or management diplomas from roughly £1,000 to £1,500
**Note: Again, picking the least sketchy by going the route of the "Professional" and "Regulated" providers.

4) Transfer all of these credentials to get into a(n) Azteca, Costa Rica, UCN or Texila American University Ph.D program
5) Optionally (for further learning) take some freebies from Alison, FutureLearn, Open University and Reed:  https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/18403...sity-reed/
6) Optionally, I'm going to be a Guinea Pig and try out some ABC Awards endorsed and/or CPD Accredited programs... wait for it, £10 inc VAT (was £1,050).  Heck, for this cost, I am interested in a few Facilities Management / Leadership & Management, Project or Strategic Management and more...

[eriehiker]

Hahahah. This is so much fun. It really kind of doesn't matter if this is a wild goose chase. It is just a lot of fun to put all the pieces together.

BTW, I think that one interesting angle would be to complete the ENEB program and attempt to transfer the credits into the University of the People MBA. UofP accepts up to 18 credit hours in transfer into its MBA program. It is currently a candidate for regional accreditation. The programs look pretty similar.

https://www.uopeople.edu/programs/ba/deg...urriculum/
https://eneb.com/master-and-postgraduate...istration/

If any of this worked, I would just go into an interview and just start laughing and explaining the whole crazy thing.

[eLearner]

Hahahah. This is so much fun. It really kind of doesn't matter if this is a wild goose chase. It is just a lot of fun to put all the pieces together.

BTW, I think that one interesting angle would be to complete the ENEB program and attempt to transfer the credits into the University of the People MBA. UofP accepts up to 18 credit hours in transfer into its MBA program. It is currently a candidate for regional accreditation. The programs look pretty similar.

https://www.uopeople.edu/programs/ba/deg...urriculum/
https://eneb.com/master-and-postgraduate...istration/

If any of this worked, I would just go into an interview and just start laughing and explaining the whole crazy thing.

The courses will have similarities because they are both business administration degrees, but UoP is not fully self-paced or independent study, it's weekly-based, at least that was the case when I last checked. AFAIK, your pace is at the mercy of both the weekly system and course availability and you usually cannot take more than one course at a time for the Masters program, and availability even for one course is not guaranteed.

Your grades being decided entirely on the papers you write is similar to ENEB's program, except that with UoP papers are peer-graded and the grading can be all over the place. Since I last checked almost 2 years ago (maybe it's changed) they don't give students any kind of orientation on grading so students come up with all kinds of ridiculous reasons for giving you lower scores, then you have to complain to the course instructor in order to get the scores adjusted. Sometimes your score is adjusted, sometimes it isn't.

ENEB is different. ENEB's system is pretty much the same as Ashworth College or Western Governors University, both of which I've always thought are great for people who are self-disciplined and do well through independent study. The work is all there, you move through it at your own pace, and a course instructor (Ashworth) or grader (WGU) grades your papers.

As for the "wild goose chase", lol, you guys and gals are really funny. There is nothing to worry about. If a company has a problem with you earning an accredited degree from another country, ask them if they also have a problem with earning money from the clients they have in other countries.

[angellicarob]

Hahahah.  This is so much fun.  It really kind of doesn't matter if this is a wild goose chase.  It is just a lot of fun to put all the pieces together.

BTW, I think that one interesting angle would be to complete the ENEB program and attempt to transfer the credits into the University of the People MBA.  UofP accepts up to 18 credit hours in transfer into its MBA program.  It is currently a candidate for regional accreditation.  The programs look pretty similar.

https://www.uopeople.edu/programs/ba/deg...urriculum/
https://eneb.com/master-and-postgraduate...istration/

If any of this worked, I would just go into an interview and just start laughing and explaining the whole crazy thing.

The courses will have similarities because they are both business administration degrees, but UoP is not fully self-paced or independent study, it's weekly-based, at least that was the case when I last checked. AFAIK, your pace is at the mercy of both the weekly system and course availability and you usually cannot take more than one course at a time for the Masters program, and availability even for one course is not guaranteed.

Your grades being decided entirely on the papers you write is similar to ENEB's program, except that with UoP papers are peer-graded and the grading can be all over the place. Since I last checked almost 2 years ago (maybe it's changed) they don't give students any kind of orientation on grading so students come up with all kinds of ridiculous reasons for giving you lower scores, then you have to complain to the course instructor in order to get the scores adjusted. Sometimes your score is adjusted, sometimes it isn't.

ENEB is different. ENEB's system is pretty much the same as Ashworth College or Western Governors University, both of which I've always thought are great for people who are self-disciplined and do well through independent study. The work is all there, you move through it at your own pace, and a course instructor (Ashworth) or grader (WGU) grades your papers.

As for the "wild goose chase", lol, you guys and gals are really funny. There is nothing to worry about. If a company has a problem with you earning an accredited degree from another country, ask them if they also have a problem with earning money from the clients they have in other countries.

 So I have gotten the Groupon I’m doing Master in Human Resource Management. It says that the college is university accredited. So looks like I’m a student “ study abroad student” So I’m going for it and I plan on putting it on my resume as just that. Then I will be back on here looking to transfer into another program for my PHD degree from whatever country will except my masters degree.

[TopHatWombat]

Regarding the Spanish language course... It's not really that great, to be honest. It's "read the PDF". I think a person would be better with an app like Duolingo.

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I would like to know, how is the exam per module and case study? Do you need a lot of time completing the case study?? any respone will be appreciated

If there are any exams, I sure can't find them. There are some simple quizzes for each module, and then one big writing assignment for the module. For example, the first module, Strategic Management, is asking for a maximum 18-page paper analyzing the business model of an e-commerce website (in Spanish!) that sells handbags.

[Silvious]

https://www.educacion.gob.es/ruct/listae...versidades
Universidad Internacional Isabel I de Castilla is actually recognized, and crossing the list that the deal is offering, the following master degree is recognized:

Graduated or Graduated in Business Administration and Management from the Isabel I International University of Castilla
Master's Degree in Digital Marketing from the Isabel I International University of Castilla
Master's Degree in Project Management and Direction from the Isabel I International University of Castilla
Master's Degree in Intelligent Analysis of Big Data from the Isabel I International University of Castilla

[eLearner]

https://www.educacion.gob.es/ruct/listae...versidades
Universidad Internacional Isabel I de Castilla is actually recognized, and crossing the list that the deal is offering, the following master degree is recognized:

Graduated or Graduated in Business Administration and Management from the Isabel I International University of Castilla
Master's Degree in Digital Marketing from the Isabel I International University of Castilla
Master's Degree in Project Management and Direction from the Isabel I International University of Castilla
Master's Degree in Intelligent Analysis of Big Data from the Isabel I International University of Castilla

Good find.

Just so everyone is aware, the programs that show up in that database are programs that the Spanish Education Ministry takes registration for, evaluates, and approves directly, making them "Official". But pretty much every Spanish university offers a mix of "Official" and "Propio" degree programs. Degree programs not in that system are respected as long as the school is accredited. They have no negative affect on one's employment there except for when it comes to government/public jobs. Apparently, there is some sort of custom behind holding an "Official" degree in Spain's government. Outside of that, it doesn't matter unless a Spaniard plans to pursue a PhD.

[jsd]

The groupon was in regards to these degrees:

MBA
Master in Human Resources Management
Master in Commerce Management and Marketing
Master in Digital Marketing and e-Commerce
Master in Business and Corporate Communication
Master in Hotel Management and Tourism
Master in International Trade
Master in Project Management
Master in Supply Chain Management
Master in Management and Team Management
Master in Big Data and Business Intelligence


Unfortunately this ministry site is giving me a database error right now so it's not clear, but assuming Silvious's list is definitive, it sounds most of these aren't even recognized locally.
Reasonable case to be made for Master in Big Data and Business Intelligence, though... and I guess if we're generous we can assume The following three below, but I am curious why the ministry and the school wouldn't be consistent in degree titles.

ENEB'S MBA = Isabe's Graduated or Graduated in Business Administration and Management
ENEB'S Master in Digital Marketing and e-Commerce = Isabe's Master's Degree in Digital Marketing
ENEB'S Master in Project Management = Isabe's Master's Degree in Project Management and Direction

?

Again, I'm getting a database error, so maybe all of the Groupon listed degrees are there too. I'm just looking at what was posted on the forum.

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Responded to Silvious before really seeing what eLearner was saying.


So is this "official" vs. "Propio" somewhat similar to NA vs RA, but that in this system the "NA" equivalent (Propio) could come from a school that also has RA (Official) degrees? Not a perfect match/description I know, just trying to kind of put it in a more familiar context