ENEB Master Thread

[jamshid666]

I think everyone is getting a bit too emotional over all of this. Can we all step back and do some proper analysis of the actual facts regarding the programs from ENEB? Has anyone actually had the courses/degrees accepted by a regionally accredited university for transfer credit or for proof of fulfilling any prerequisites for further education?

[rachel83az]

Constructive posts: New information about the schools (I.E., evaluation information or information on Isabel/ENEB accreditation), information about completing the degree, information about proprios in general, etc.

Non-productive posts: pointing out that there is conflict, counting how many posts people have made, saying that ENEB sucks/is great without expanding on why, personal attacks, etc.

The above are not exhaustive, but should give a general idea of what is expected. Posts that are unproductive will be deleted. If you want to criticize ENEB or Isabel I, fine. But your post(s) must meet minimum standards.

[cacoleman1983]

I think everyone is getting a bit too emotional over all of this. Can we all step back and do some proper analysis of the actual facts regarding the programs from ENEB? Has anyone actually had the courses/degrees accepted by a regionally accredited university for transfer credit or for proof of fulfilling any prerequisites for further education?

Most who look at ENEB programs for the price see detractors as far as being too good to be true, low quality, and lacking recognition. A majority of people who have taken their programs say they were more than sufficient as a graduate level program. It's more of an interesting phenomenon than anything else. 

As far as furthering education and meeting other prerequisites with ENEB, Michael Smith (michaeladsmith2) who recently posted has earned 2 Masters and is currently working on 2 more.    He has been able to use his degrees to not only meet requirements for entry into a law school program (without a Bachelors/BA equivalent) but he is also using the two masters he is working on as completion credits to complete a Bachelors degree.  He has several years of experience as a veteran, actor, and minister so that experience allowed him to enter the ENEB Masters programs despite having only junior level status as an undergraduate. He is using his degrees to not only further his education but also fill the gaps missed from his incomplete Bachelors degree.

On a side yet similar note, I've passed although not officially been awarded a PhD from UCN (Universidad Central Nicaragua) that has been a constant discussion and battle for about 5 years or so in the sister forum degreeinfo.com.  The degree costs about $5000 to $6000 but is blacklisted by several foreign credential evaluators. They have a lot of validation schemes with universities offering the Spanish Propio programs similar to ENEB and state-approved/authorized college degrees but they have been granted full recognition as compatible with regional accreditation by several evaluators when degrees are awarded through them. I may do an ENEB degree in the future to meet the qualification to teach business at the college level and for personal enrichment.

[michaeladsmith2]

GREETINGS EVERYONE:

So, as mentioned before, I am an MBA+Masters in Business & Corporate Communication alumnus of ENEB. Well today, my ECE Foreign Credential Evaluation has come back. Here is the Google Drive link for you to see the Course-by-Course (Unofficial Copy) report.

ECE ENEB Report (Unofficial Copy) (it's also attached to this post in PDF)

Let me share a few thoughts.

1. I was very surprised at the credits awarded. ECE awards 2.50 credits per course at the undergraduate level (not the 3 credit hours I was expecting). Based on the 18 Modules (both MBA+Masters) I took at ENEB, I am awarded 50 credits by ECE. But I am not upset, as I signed up for 2 additional Masters (MHRM & MPM) that will add 8 more Modules. This will give me 20 more undergrad credits. And hell, I might even do another masters in Big Data and add 4 more Modules for 10 more credits!  

2. I spoke with TESU today. Because ECE is a NACES-accredited Evaluator, they will accept ALL my credits towards the completion of the BALS or BSBA. Once ECE mails the official copy to them by Priority USPSl ($30), they will redo my academic evaluation and input the credits.

3. While some may not be happy (I don't really care) with this report and find fault in the evaluation process or continue to question the validity and legitimacy of ENEB, you now have a 100% recognized NACES Evaluator that says ENEB credits are legit. You can use them as you see fit. I've used them for Law School Admissions; I've used them for Doctoral Studies  Admissions; and I've used them to complete my undergraduate studies (as a personal goal I started in 1999). 

I really hope this helps. And again, because I am an ENEB Ambassador, if you want to begin studies at ENEB for whatever reason or purpose, use my Ambassador's Discount Code. It's good Worldwide. It's good for new students. And it's good for current students who want to add a Masters or other program of study to their current enrollment.

Ambassador's Discount Code

ENEB Enrollment Link 

Code: AMBASSADOR287 

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What I want to know is why my most recent post is not being posted in page 136 as the most recent? Who is controlling or blocking members from posting information or replies?

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cacoleman1983 pid='377018' dateline='1662682629']

I think everyone is getting a bit too emotional over all of this. Can we all step back and do some proper analysis of the actual facts regarding the programs from ENEB? Has anyone actually had the courses/degrees accepted by a regionally accredited university for transfer credit or for proof of fulfilling any prerequisites for further education?

Most who look at ENEB programs for the price see detractors as far as being too good to be true, low quality, and lacking recognition. A majority of people who have taken their programs say they were more than sufficient as a graduate level program.   It's more of an interesting phenomenon than anything else. 

As far as furthering education and meeting other prerequisites with ENEB, Michael Smith (michaeladsmith2) who recently posted has earned 2 Masters and is currently working on 2 more.    He has been able to use his degrees to not only meet requirements for entry into a law school program (without a Bachelors/BA equivalent) but he is also using the two masters he is working on as completion credits to complete a Bachelors degree.  He has several years of experience as a veteran, actor, and minister so that experience allowed him to enter the ENEB Masters programs despite having only junior level status as an undergraduate.  He is using his degrees to not only further his education but also fill the gaps missed from his incomplete Bachelors degree.

On a side yet similar note, I've passed although not officially been awarded a PhD from UCN (Universidad Central Nicaragua) that has been a constant discussion and battle for about 5 years or so in the sister forum degreeinfo.com.  The degree costs about $5000 to $6000 but is blacklisted by several foreign credential evaluators. They have a lot of validation schemes with universities offering the Spanish Propio programs similar to ENEB and state-approved/authorized college degrees but they have been granted full recognition as compatible with regional accreditation by several evaluators when degrees are awarded through them.  I may do an ENEB degree in the future to meet the qualification to teach business at the college level and for personal enrichment.

GREETINGS EVERYONE:

So, as mentioned before, I am an MBA+Masters in Business & Corporate Communication alumnus of ENEB. Well today, my ECE Foreign Credential Evaluation has come back. Here is the Google Drive link for you to see the Course-by-Course (Unofficial Copy) report.

ECE ENEB Report (Unofficial Copy) (it's also attached to this post in PDF)

Let me share a few thoughts.

1. I was very surprised at the credits awarded. ECE awards 2.50 credits per course at the undergraduate level (not the 3 credit hours I was expecting). Based on the 18 Modules (both MBA+Masters) I took at ENEB, I am awarded 50 credits by ECE. But I am not upset, as I signed up for 2 additional Masters (MHRM & MPM) that will add 8 more Modules. This will give me 20 more undergrad credits. And hell, I might even do another masters in Big Data and add 4 more Modules for 10 more credits!  

2. I spoke with TESU today. Because ECE is a NACES-accredited Evaluator, they will accept ALL my credits towards the completion of the BALS or BSBA. Once ECE mails the official copy to them by Priority USPSl ($30), they will redo my academic evaluation and input the credits.

3. While some may not be happy (I don't really care) with this report and find fault in the evaluation process or continue to question the validity and legitimacy of ENEB, you now have a 100% recognized NACES Evaluator that says ENEB credits are legit. You can use them as you see fit. I've used them for Law School Admissions; I've used them for Doctoral Studies  Admissions; and I've used them to complete my undergraduate studies (as a personal goal I started in 1999). 

I really hope this helps. And again, because I am an ENEB Ambassador, if you want to begin studies at ENEB for whatever reason or purpose, use my Ambassador's Discount Code. It's good Worldwide. It's good for new students. And it's good for current students who want to add a Masters or other program of study to their current enrollment.
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[url=https://drive.google.com/file/d/1czFoFzIELESI3FNJB9usz6BFfATqqNyS/view?usp=sharing]Ambassador's Discount Code

ENEB Enrollment Link 

Code: AMBASSADOR287 

[rachel83az]

This thread is full of deleted posts, so sometimes a new post isn't going to show up due to a bug in the forum software.

[eLearner]

GREETINGS EVERYONE:

So, as mentioned before, I am an MBA+Masters in Business & Corporate Communication alumnus of ENEB. Well today, my ECE Foreign Credential Evaluation has come back. Here is the Google Drive link for you to see the Course-by-Course (Unofficial Copy) report.

ECE ENEB Report (Unofficial Copy) (it's also attached to this post in PDF)

Looks good. This is now the second time ECE has given RA equivalence. The other time wasn't a course-by-course report but the less expensive employment report. The credit shaving is strange to me but I've heard of this happening with WES often and Dr. Coleman has mentioned his own issue with WES doing that, smh. Not sure why evaluators do that without explanation.

The one real issue I have is with this line: "Admission Requirement: U.S equivalent of 3 years of undergraduate study". But that's not the requirement. ENEB doesn't differentiate between 3 year or 4 year Bachelor's degrees especially when enrolling Americans, they only require a Bachelor's degree regardless of the timetable. The person with the first report showed the explanation from ECE which said that the decision was based on ENEB enrolling 3-year Bachelor's degree holders, but of course they would since they live in a region of the world where the 3-year Bachelor's degree is common, lol. They also by default require 4-year Bachelor's degrees from American students since 4-years is the standard for American Bachelor's degree. So either they're not thinking that through or that's their angle to not give 1:1 equivalence.

In any case, this works out either way for you given that TESU accepts the credits. I do see one possible area of opportunity here though: based on how they put both degrees in one evaluation, I'd only send one degree for evaluation at a time so each one has its own separate report. Unless they as a practice use prior reports to apply to newer ones, this would allow each degree to be evaluated for full credit on their own rather than having credits from the second degree on the report being influence by the first or vice versa. Granted, if you submit both to a school they're going to see duplicate credits, but I think it's better to have separate evaluations for each so that if for some reason you need just one degree for a certain thing and not the other, there will be no issue with full credit being identified for that degree.

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I needed to make a minor edit, but I can't see my previous post, lol. 

I know that deletions cause a bug to trigger in the forum software. I wonder if mods are able to edit posts, erase the content, and write "deleted" rather than actually deleting the posts? Maybe that would prevent the issue from occurring.

[Sdmj33]

I think everyone is getting a bit too emotional over all of this. Can we all step back and do some proper analysis of the actual facts regarding the programs from ENEB? Has anyone actually had the courses/degrees accepted by a regionally accredited university for transfer credit or for proof of fulfilling any prerequisites for further education?

Most who look at ENEB programs for the price see detractors as far as being too good to be true, low quality, and lacking recognition. A majority of people who have taken their programs say they were more than sufficient as a graduate level program.   It's more of an interesting phenomenon than anything else. 

As far as furthering education and meeting other prerequisites with ENEB, Michael Smith (michaeladsmith2) who recently posted has earned 2 Masters and is currently working on 2 more.    He has been able to use his degrees to not only meet requirements for entry into a law school program (without a Bachelors/BA equivalent) but he is also using the two masters he is working on as completion credits to complete a Bachelors degree.  He has several years of experience as a veteran, actor, and minister so that experience allowed him to enter the ENEB Masters programs despite having only junior level status as an undergraduate.  He is using his degrees to not only further his education but also fill the gaps missed from his incomplete Bachelors degree.

On a side yet similar note, I've passed although not officially been awarded a PhD from UCN (Universidad Central Nicaragua) that has been a constant discussion and battle for about 5 years or so in the sister forum degreeinfo.com.  The degree costs about $5000 to $6000 but is blacklisted by several foreign credential evaluators. They have a lot of validation schemes with universities offering the Spanish Propio programs similar to ENEB and state-approved/authorized college degrees but they have been granted full recognition as compatible with regional accreditation by several evaluators when degrees are awarded through them.  I may do an ENEB degree in the future to meet the qualification to teach business at the college level and for personal enrichment.

If possible can u get the UCN PhD evaluated by UoT CES? AFAIK they are the only ones in Canada that havent blacklisted UCN

[thodeptrai]

When I finish my ENEB Master in Digital Marketing and eCommerce, I will try to evaluate by IEE or ACEI (according to https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/ENEB). Hope it can be equated to a graduate certificate then I can use for transfer graduate credits. If anyone has done the evaluation by IEE or ACEI, could you please share the results?

[cacoleman1983]

I think everyone is getting a bit too emotional over all of this. Can we all step back and do some proper analysis of the actual facts regarding the programs from ENEB? Has anyone actually had the courses/degrees accepted by a regionally accredited university for transfer credit or for proof of fulfilling any prerequisites for further education?

Most who look at ENEB programs for the price see detractors as far as being too good to be true, low quality, and lacking recognition. A majority of people who have taken their programs say they were more than sufficient as a graduate level program.   It's more of an interesting phenomenon than anything else. 

As far as furthering education and meeting other prerequisites with ENEB, Michael Smith (michaeladsmith2) who recently posted has earned 2 Masters and is currently working on 2 more.    He has been able to use his degrees to not only meet requirements for entry into a law school program (without a Bachelors/BA equivalent) but he is also using the two masters he is working on as completion credits to complete a Bachelors degree.  He has several years of experience as a veteran, actor, and minister so that experience allowed him to enter the ENEB Masters programs despite having only junior level status as an undergraduate.  He is using his degrees to not only further his education but also fill the gaps missed from his incomplete Bachelors degree.

On a side yet similar note, I've passed although not officially been awarded a PhD from UCN (Universidad Central Nicaragua) that has been a constant discussion and battle for about 5 years or so in the sister forum degreeinfo.com.  The degree costs about $5000 to $6000 but is blacklisted by several foreign credential evaluators. They have a lot of validation schemes with universities offering the Spanish Propio programs similar to ENEB and state-approved/authorized college degrees but they have been granted full recognition as compatible with regional accreditation by several evaluators when degrees are awarded through them.  I may do an ENEB degree in the future to meet the qualification to teach business at the college level and for personal enrichment.

If possible can u get the UCN PhD evaluated by UoT CES? AFAIK they are the only ones in Canada that havent blacklisted UCN

I'm not sure about any evaluators from Canada as far as who will evaluate UCN's degrees.   You may need to inqure to UoT CES about UCN"s PhD directly.  I know that on our degreeforum's ENEB Wiki,  Quebec Ministry of Immigration evaluated ENEB/UI1 as equivalent to a Masters so maybe they would evaluate UCN's PhD as its proper equivalent.   From the US,  I know that Spantan, ERES, and IEE have all evaluated UCN's degrees with full recognition based on past graduates who used their services to evaluate their degrees.   There are two new NACES evaluators here in the USA that just came out in May 2022. I believe the newest evaluators are often times the most progressive and willing to evaluate degrees as equivalent from countries with controversial academic recognitions or structures.

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When I finish my ENEB Master in Digital Marketing and eCommerce, I will try to evaluate by IEE or ACEI (according to https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/ENEB). Hope it can be equated to a graduate certificate then I can use for transfer graduate credits. If anyone has done the evaluation by IEE or ACEI, could you please share the results?

I'm still thinking about completing one of ENEB's degrees and the Digital Marketing and eCommerce program was one of my top choices.   To assist with the ENEB wiki of this forum, I may go ahead and use one of the two newest NACES members for more references that just came on the seen in May 2022.  They are Institute of Foreign Credential Services, Inc. & International Academic Credential Evaluators, Inc.  Who knows, maybe one of them will give a regionally accredited Masters equivalent.    [/url]

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GREETINGS EVERYONE:

So, as mentioned before, I am an MBA+Masters in Business & Corporate Communication alumnus of ENEB. Well today, my ECE Foreign Credential Evaluation has come back. Here is the Google Drive link for you to see the Course-by-Course (Unofficial Copy) report.

[url=https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hEz2HDx-esR_jXEIXMJrSlPGUU3_nSbu/view?usp=sharing]ECE ENEB Report (Unofficial Copy) (it's also attached to this post in PDF)

Looks good. This is now the second time ECE has given RA equivalence. The other time wasn't a course-by-course report but the less expensive employment report. The credit shaving is strange to me but I've heard of this happening with WES often and Dr. Coleman has mentioned his own issue with WES doing that, smh. Not sure why evaluators do that without explanation.

The one real issue I have is with this line: "Admission Requirement: U.S equivalent of 3 years of undergraduate study". But that's not the requirement. ENEB doesn't differentiate between 3 year or 4 year Bachelor's degrees especially when enrolling Americans, they only require a Bachelor's degree regardless of the timetable. The person with the first report showed the explanation from ECE which said that the decision was based on ENEB enrolling 3-year Bachelor's degree holders, but of course they would since they live in a region of the world where the 3-year Bachelor's degree is common, lol. They also by default require 4-year Bachelor's degrees from American students since 4-years is the standard for American Bachelor's degree. So either they're not thinking that through or that's their angle to not give 1:1 equivalence.

In any case, this works out either way for you given that TESU accepts the credits. I do see one possible area of opportunity here though: based on how they put both degrees in one evaluation, I'd only send one degree for evaluation at a time so each one has its own separate report. Unless they as a practice use prior reports to apply to newer ones, this would allow each degree to be evaluated for full credit on their own rather than having credits from the second degree on the report being influence by the first or vice versa. Granted, if you submit both to a school they're going to see duplicate credits, but I think it's better to have separate evaluations for each so that if for some reason you need just one degree for a certain thing and not the other, there will be no issue with full credit being identified for that degree.

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I needed to make a minor edit, but I can't see my previous post, lol. 

I know that deletions cause a bug to trigger in the forum software. I wonder if mods are able to edit posts, erase the content, and write "deleted" rather than actually deleting the posts? Maybe that would prevent the issue from occurring.

These evaluators make me laugh at times but they also anger me.    I'm thinking that the reason why they gave 2.5 for every course instead of the standard 3 is because they were trying to convert 60 ECTS hours into 30 credits hours.    They wanted to take the typical 11/12 courses for each degree and rather than give 3 credits each for a total of 36, they wanted to make it a flat 30 in order to fit perfectly in the conversion.     My partners credit number from the Philippines went from 47 credits to 34 credits as they shaved one credit for each course to represent one year of study.  However as a educational counselor on record, I had to explain the rationale and correct the evaluation so our community college could accept it as they were not going to accept it nor did WES agree to revise it.

WES and ECE are very conservative evaluators that were among the first out when their services started in the 1980s.   There have been a couple of news ones come out this year with IEE being the youngest one since 2018 up to this past May.  IEE seems to be the most progressive evaluator and is willing to give pre-evaluation information.  I hope the new ones do the same.

[thodeptrai]

I'm still thinking about completing one of ENEB's degrees and the Digital Marketing and eCommerce program was one of my top choices.   To assist with the ENEB wiki of this forum, I may go ahead and use one of the two newest NACES members for more references that just came on the seen in May 2022.  They are Institute of Foreign Credential Services, Inc. & International Academic Credential Evaluators, Inc.  Who knows, maybe one of them will give a regionally accredited Masters equivalent.

Globe Language Services (Member since May 2022) does not evaluate Titulo Propio credentials. They only evaluate Titulo Oficial credentials that are listed on the Registro de Universidades, Centros y Titulos (RUCT) website (https://www.educacion.gob.es/ruct/consul...l=estudios)

Reference: https://www.globelanguage.com/required-d...ountry=195