Degree planning help - UMPI BBA vs PUG BSBA

[rachel83az]

Ok outside umpi and whatnot, do public national universities (the likes of ASU, Purdue, buffalo..etc) accept at least some third party credits ?? And if so i am assuming study.com is the best option since it has those high level classes right?

Mostly no. Not really. At most, some of them will accept a few CLEP exams. That's usually it. It's why we recommend the universities that we do: they are exceptional and accept 3rd party credits.

Heck, some universities don't even accept credits from other universities.

[crowbird]

Ok outside umpi and whatnot, do public national universities (the likes of ASU, Purdue, buffalo..etc) accept at least some third party credits ?? And if so i am assuming study.com is the best option since it has those high level classes right?

Mostly no. Not really. At most, some of them will accept a few CLEP exams. That's usually it. It's why we recommend the universities that we do: they are exceptional and accept 3rd party credits.

Heck, some universities don't even accept credits from other universities.

So besides credit transfer which seems barely possible if any when it comes to on campus programs, what's the best way to get a program done the fastest way and relatively cheap? Or you can refer me to other forums that can answer these type of questions

[Jonathan Whatley]

Ok outside umpi and whatnot, do public national universities (the likes of ASU, Purdue, buffalo..etc) accept at least some third party credits ?? And if so i am assuming study.com is the best option since it has those high level classes right?

Mostly no. Not really. At most, some of them will accept a few CLEP exams. That's usually it. It's why we recommend the universities that we do: they are exceptional and accept 3rd party credits.

Heck, some universities don't even accept credits from other universities.

So besides credit transfer which seems barely possible if any when it comes to on campus programs, what's the best way to get a program done the fastest way and relatively cheap? Or you can refer me to other forums that can answer these type of questions

Most public national universities accept credit transfer decently well from other RA colleges, and community college transfer is a common cost saving and sometimes accelerating tactic.

Many traditional college students accelerate and cost-save in advance during high school using AP exams.

Institutional challenge exams, a credit-by-examination program offered in-house by each school, typically run by the academic department for the subject, are sometimes offered particularly for lower level math and foreign language courses.

Taking higher than average course load and taking summer courses are also frequent tactics to accelerate and cost save at a traditional college. Comparing on campus programs, cost of living can be a major differential component of cost in a way it isn't comparing online programs, so this can easily be a much greater source of savings than savings on tuition.

If these tactics seem fairly obvious and commonplace, well, that's because you're restricting the question to how to achieve non-traditional acceleration and cost savings at colleges that follow traditional course delivery, traditional schedules, and traditional academic policies. Not much room to maneuver.

If you want a source of information for acceleration or cost savings tactics for a traditional college, because so much will depend on the specific practices at each college, you might look at online forums for each college, like subreddits or student Facebook groups. For instance, maybe a bit of local knowledge among University X students is that organic chemistry at University X itself is a weed-out course, whereas it's something like accelerable if you take it nearby at Community College Y.

One other thing. Your criterion of on-campus "public national university (the likes of ASU, Purdue, buffalo..etc)," and taking Purdue to mean Purdue flagship, not Purdue Global, would probably include one university with an online competency-based education program we discuss here sometimes: The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee offers a CBE online BS in Biomedical Sciences and BS in Information Science and Technology. There's a decent chance a student could start gathering credit as a CBE online student then transfer to the UWM on-campus program, if they met admissions criteria for the on-campus program, which might be higher. The question probably hasn't come up here before. There's not much interest here in starting in a flexible online format then switching to a less flexible on-campus format, excluding a situation where on-campus work is essential, like online prerequisites to an on-campus health profession program.

[rachel83az]

So besides credit transfer which seems barely possible if any when it comes to on campus programs, what's the best way to get a program done the fastest way and relatively cheap? Or you can refer me to other forums that can answer these type of questions

For most universities: DSSTs are rarely possible. CLEP is sometimes possible. Transfer from another college or university is often possible, but there are no guarantees. Your first degree should knock out at least the general education requirements at most universities.

Otherwise, with the methods mentioned by Jonathan Whatley, you might whittle a 4-year program down to 2 or 3 years. I don't consider that to be fast, nor is it really cheap.

If you want fast and cheap, you need to go with one of the CBE programs we recommend here. You said you're a third-world student. Are you prepared to drop $20000-$30000USD, at minimum, on a more traditional American degree? That's how much a year of traditional university often costs, especially at international tuition rates.

[crowbird]

Ok outside umpi and whatnot, do public national universities (the likes of ASU, Purdue, buffalo..etc) accept at least some third party credits ?? And if so i am assuming study.com is the best option since it has those high level classes right?

Mostly no. Not really. At most, some of them will accept a few CLEP exams. That's usually it. It's why we recommend the universities that we do: they are exceptional and accept 3rd party credits.

Heck, some universities don't even accept credits from other universities.

So besides credit transfer which seems barely possible if any when it comes to on campus programs, what's the best way to get a program done the fastest way and relatively cheap? Or you can refer me to other forums that can answer these type of questions

Most public national universities accept credit transfer decently well from other RA colleges, and community college transfer is a common cost saving and sometimes accelerating tactic.

Many traditional college students accelerate and cost-save in advance during high school using AP exams.

Institutional challenge exams, a credit-by-examination program offered in-house by each school, typically run by the academic department for the subject, are sometimes offered particularly for lower level math and foreign language courses.

Taking higher than average course load and taking summer courses are also frequent tactics to accelerate and cost save at a traditional college. Comparing on campus programs, cost of living can be a major differential component of cost in a way it isn't comparing online programs, so this can easily be a much greater source of savings than savings on tuition.

If these tactics seem fairly obvious and commonplace, well, that's because you're restricting the question to how to achieve non-traditional acceleration and cost savings at colleges that follow traditional course delivery, traditional schedules, and traditional academic policies. Not much room to maneuver.

If you want a source of information for acceleration or cost savings tactics for a traditional college, because so much will depend on the specific practices at each college, you might look at online forums for each college, like subreddits or student Facebook groups. For instance, maybe a bit of local knowledge among University X students is that organic chemistry at University X itself is a weed-out course, whereas it's something like accelerable if you take it nearby at Community College Y.

One other thing. Your criterion of on-campus "public national university (the likes of ASU, Purdue, buffalo..etc)," and taking Purdue to mean Purdue flagship, not Purdue Global, would probably include one university with an online competency-based education program we discuss here sometimes: The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee offers a CBE online BS in Biomedical Sciences and BS in Information Science and Technology. There's a decent chance a student could start gathering credit as a CBE online student then transfer to the UWM on-campus program, if they met admissions criteria for the on-campus program, which might be higher. The question probably hasn't come up here before. There's not much interest here in starting in a flexible online format then switching to a less flexible on-campus format, excluding a situation where on-campus work is essential, like online prerequisites to an on-campus health profession program.

Is taking higher course load possible in most universities?

Also i am going for the umpi cbe program, does that mean it would be easier to transfer credit if i go for on campus program at university of maine compared to like going from umpi to university of south Florida for example, or will getting Purdue global make it easier to transfer credit or get into Purdue university?

[LevelUP]

Ok outside umpi and whatnot, do public national universities (the likes of ASU, Purdue, buffalo..etc) accept at least some third party credits ?? And if so i am assuming study.com is the best option since it has those high level classes right?

Mostly no. Not really. At most, some of them will accept a few CLEP exams. That's usually it. It's why we recommend the universities that we do: they are exceptional and accept 3rd party credits.

Heck, some universities don't even accept credits from other universities.

So besides credit transfer which seems barely possible if any when it comes to on campus programs, what's the best way to get a program done the fastest way and relatively cheap? Or you can refer me to other forums that can answer these type of questions

Penn State is the #60 ranked university by U.S. News, and they accept up to 84 credits from Sophia, Study.com, etc., for their online program.

It will cost you $16,000-$25,000 to get a degree from there (with discounts for taking more credits per term).

It's pretty common for people to get caught up in chasing the branding and prestige of the college and lose focus on their own personal goals, not understanding the limits of what college can teach. Don't think that attending a high-ranked school will automatically mean employers are going to roll out the red carpet for you.

Attending a higher-ranking college isn't going to help your career much compared to all the other colleges we recommend. It's almost always better to save your money on undergraduate education and then spend it on graduate school.

Many people who attend colleges such as TESU, SNHU, and UMPI have gone on to attend high-ranking graduate schools such as Johns Hopkins University, Northwestern University, Cornell University, the University of Texas at Austin, the Georgia Institute of Technology, and the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign.

Study.com costs more than Sophia and has a limit of 5 courses per month. On my TESU transcript, you can't tell if I took them at StraighterLine, Study.com, or Sophia because they are all listed as ACE credits without details of which provider they came from.

[crowbird]

So besides credit transfer which seems barely possible if any when it comes to on campus programs, what's the best way to get a program done the fastest way and relatively cheap? Or you can refer me to other forums that can answer these type of questions

For most universities: DSSTs are rarely possible. CLEP is sometimes possible. Transfer from another college or university is often possible, but there are no guarantees. Your first degree should knock out at least the general education requirements at most universities.

Otherwise, with the methods mentioned by Jonathan Whatley, you might whittle a 4-year program down to 2 or 3 years. I don't consider that to be fast, nor is it really cheap.

If you want fast and cheap, you need to go with one of the CBE programs we recommend here. You said you're a third-world student. Are you prepared to drop $20000-$30000USD, at minimum, on a more traditional American degree? That's how much a year of traditional university often costs, especially at international tuition rates.

I know that they are expensive, i am just weighing my options, i just want to know if i potentially decide to do it I'll have a degree that makes it a bit easier to pursue what i want, i saw some degrees that go for around
15k so with a bit of savings and depends how fast i get a job once i get there i think its doable, maybe even if i can get some scholarship here and there (i know i am dreaming big here).

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Ok outside umpi and whatnot, do public national universities (the likes of ASU, Purdue, buffalo..etc) accept at least some third party credits ?? And if so i am assuming study.com is the best option since it has those high level classes right?

Mostly no. Not really. At most, some of them will accept a few CLEP exams. That's usually it. It's why we recommend the universities that we do: they are exceptional and accept 3rd party credits.

Heck, some universities don't even accept credits from other universities.

So besides credit transfer which seems barely possible if any when it comes to on campus programs, what's the best way to get a program done the fastest way and relatively cheap? Or you can refer me to other forums that can answer these type of questions

Penn State is the #60 ranked university by U.S. News, and they accept up to 84 credits from Sophia, Study.com, etc., for their online program.

It will cost you $16,000-$25,000 to get a degree from there (with discounts for taking more credits per term).

Attending a higher-ranking college isn't going to help your career much compared to all the other colleges we recommend. It's almost always better to save your money on undergraduate education and then spend it on graduate school.

It's pretty common for people to get caught up in chasing the branding and prestige of the college and lose focus on their own personal goals, not understanding the limits of what college can teach. Don't think that attending a high-ranked school will automatically mean employers are going to roll out the red carpet for you.

Many people who attend colleges such as TESU, SNHU, and UMPI have gone on to attend high-ranking graduate schools such as Johns Hopkins University, Northwestern University, Cornell University, the University of Texas at Austin, the Georgia Institute of Technology, and the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign.

Study.com costs more than Sophia and has a limit of 5 courses per month. On my TESU transcript, you can't tell if I took them at StraighterLine, Study.com, or Sophia because they are all listed as ACE credits without details of which provider they came from.

I think you misread what i said, i am going for the umpi degree, i was asking about grad degree and if its feasible to transfer credit or do it in a shorter time, and if getting umpi bba will make possible to get an on campus grad degree.

[LevelUP]

I think you misread what i said, i am going for the umpi degree, i was asking about grad degree and if its feasible to transfer credit or do it in a shorter time, and if getting umpi bba will make possible to get an on campus grad degree.

Many people who attend colleges such as TESU, SNHU, and UMPI have gone on to attend high-ranking graduate schools such as Johns Hopkins University, Northwestern University, Cornell University, the University of Texas at Austin, the Georgia Institute of Technology, and the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. That includes on-campus.

For the most part, schools aren't going to accept transfer credits into a graduate program.

If you want to complete a graduate program in a shorter amount of time, look for programs that have fewer credits, typically with a minimum requirement of 30 credits.

[Jonathan Whatley]

Is taking higher course load possible in most universities?

Yes. But – like credit transfer and many tactics discussed – it often needs to be approved on a case-by-case basis by one or more officials, such as academic advisor, registrar, academic department of the subject you're majoring in, academic department of the subject the course is in.

One thing that tends to characterize schools favored on degreeinfo is that tactics that are used but only by special permission at more traditional schools, can be used automatically or at least more easily there.

Also i am going for the umpi cbe program, does that mean it would be easier to transfer credit if i go for on campus program at university of maine compared to like going from umpi to university of south Florida for example, or will getting Purdue global make it easier to transfer credit or get into Purdue university?

You can expect academic credit from UMPI to be treated as outside transfer credit at other University of Maine System schools, such as the University of Maine flagship in Orono or the University of Maine at Farmington.

Although all the University of Maine System schools recently merged their regional accreditation into one envelope, and they seem to have increased the extent to which they cross-list courses, e.g., a UMFK student might sign up for an online course locally and find the professor is at UMPI and students come from each school, they still generally treat each other as separate institutions for transfer credit purposes, I believe.

Academic credit from Purdue Global will certainly be outside transfer credit at the Purdue University flagship in West Lafayette and other Purdue University System schools. Don't choose PG expecting any material advantage transferring to another Purdue University System school.

[crowbird]

Is taking higher course load possible in most universities?

Yes. But – like credit transfer and many tactics discussed – it often needs to be approved on a case-by-case basis by one or more officials, such as academic advisor, registrar, academic department of the subject you're majoring in, academic department of the subject the course is in.

One thing that tends to characterize schools favored on degreeinfo is that tactics that are used but only by special permission at more traditional schools, can be used automatically or at least more easily there.

Also i am going for the umpi cbe program, does that mean it would be easier to transfer credit if i go for on campus program at university of maine compared to like going from umpi to university of south Florida for example, or will getting Purdue global make it easier to transfer credit or get into Purdue university?

You can expect academic credit from UMPI to be treated as outside transfer credit at other University of Maine System schools, such as the University of Maine flagship in Orono or the University of Maine at Farmington.

Although all the University of Maine System schools recently merged their regional accreditation into one envelope, and they seem to have increased the extent to which they cross-list courses, e.g., a UMFK student might sign up for an online course locally and find the professor is at UMPI and students come from each school, they still generally treat each other as separate institutions for transfer credit purposes, I believe.

Academic credit from Purdue Global will certainly be outside transfer credit at the Purdue University flagship in West Lafayette and other Purdue University System schools. Don't choose PG expecting any material advantage transferring to another Purdue University System school.

I see, so chances of credit transfer is low especially from undergrad to grad degree is pretty much none existent